Higgings 1824 Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 4 hours ago, UK said: Dk has to almost-die in order to heal, and once it is done the dk has to wait 90 seconds for the cooldown Atm, wardens could pvp without a proper pvp set and heal everytime they block. But as I said, the problem is the defensive skill they have. Their healing skills do not bother me, actually xd whjm17 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedom 281 Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 (edited) Warden not so great in PvP. I think MC fan just hate how warden have a better tank system then their dk. I havent yet lost a pvp(2v2 arena) when it's me and warden left. Y'all should be glad warden dmg system low. Honestly, the made to aggro everything with high def system. Kinda hate to take them to dg because the chances using 2 stam went up. Edited August 3, 2017 by Speedom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedom 281 Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 On 7/27/2017 at 11:15 AM, Ikafati said: Seeker is a wannabe Rogue, who does it's job poorly Charmer is a meme class, being a jack of all trades is awful. I can only see it being useful in 2v2 arena Hunter is ok, very nice PvE DPS Warden is a god, Bladecancers are garbage compared to them, and many classes are garbage compared to BDs. Mind the gap Yoh must be a rogue player lol whjm17 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayr 57 Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 We all know how it works, the new classes have to be OP and outweight every existing class so players are lured to make the new class if its not the case why would anyone want to move out of their comfort zone! once there are enough players playing it then the new classes will be nerfed koszpl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikafati 148 Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 4 hours ago, Speedom said: Yoh must be a rogue player lol lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabnecro 304 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 (edited) Warden is balanced on arena (maybe even on the weak side), but on wars and pve it's completely broken. All it's skills should be made active and limited by mana drain, long cooldown or even number of hits before the skill expires. Edited August 10, 2017 by nabnecro Omercix 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XwarlordX 91 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 time 21:25 God mode activated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlothver 0 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Wardens are way too powerful. Period. There is no debate all you need to do is pay attention and it's clear what they are too powerful. Also parties doing bosses have plenty to worry about from a Warden wanting to hunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgana 780 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, Hlothver said: Wardens are way too powerful. Period. There is no debate all you need to do is pay attention and it's clear what they are too powerful. Also parties doing bosses have plenty to worry about from a Warden wanting to hunt. What have parties to worry about? xD Warden is a really, really strong tank but it could never deal enough damage to kill a whole party except the party members are total retards Speedom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedom 281 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 (edited) I still think everyone complain because of one warden that tank a town. I've seen attempts from other pro warden but they couldn't Do it. My question: Is the complaint is because of one Op build Warden or because since they're a fan of being an MC, they can't tank like Warden and want to make charmer a tank like Warden? Warden not special in arena until the last 2 expert and then maybe. Edited August 12, 2017 by Speedom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daria 1196 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 There may be some fixes in the future, but there is no definite information about what and when is going to be fixed. All I can say it that we have to wait, because fixing and, thus, balancing classes is not an easy and fast thing. UPD moved the topic to a relevant section Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jzargo 256 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 Just little suggestion here, don't give more stun skill for classes that already have many stun skills Speedom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedom 281 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Jzargo said: Just little suggestion here, don't give more stun skill for classes that already have many stun skills *cough Hunter cough cough* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnivhal 3 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Ive seen the same situation with other classes. Its not just wardens. Other day i saw 4 mc raid t1. One fell fast,another took a little longer. But other 2 ,necro and another melee stood for a long time. Theirs many variables for this situation to be duplicated by other classes. Speedom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlothver 0 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 On 8/12/2017 at 4:15 PM, Morgana said: What have parties to worry about? xD Warden is a really, really strong tank but it could never deal enough damage to kill a whole party except the party members are total retards Pardon the late reply but sadly most people I party with do not understand my simple instructions. Like stay together, pay attention, and get the first hit. It's a problem that will never go away. But I was also talking about for bosses with mobs and the Warden doing what he or she can to make the mobs attack them too. With this update things should be more manageable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladiator 1146 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Warden is gonna still tank everything without healers, they nerfed an almost non-existent damage? Nerf was totally not on point, at least I don't see the point, maybe anyone can explain. Pecleb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter 39 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Makes it harder or well longer for the wardens who solo bosses I suppose other than that don't see it changing anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladiator 1146 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 (edited) If that's the case, then they had to nerf several other classes that can solo bosses, Deathknights, Barbarians, Bladedancers, and Mages. Edited August 24, 2017 by Gladiator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedom 281 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Warden is a high def class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian 14 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 lol if you guys want warden to be less tanky then might as well give him a higher attack and a higher stun time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urscrewed 142 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 i dont get why everyones so mad about warden they nerfed it into the ground with the damage reduction. Sure, hes super tanky, but its not like he can kill you.* *If your a rogue and can't kite im very sorry for your loss. Rip against wardens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian 14 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 7 hours ago, Urscrewed said: i dont get why everyones so mad about warden they nerfed it into the ground with the damage reduction. Sure, hes super tanky, but its not like he can kill you.* *If your a rogue and can't kite im very sorry for your loss. Rip against wardens Lol ikr I am a warden and legit what I think about it rn is ita just a wall that takes punches and doesn't attack.Its a wall that doesn't attack and eats the punches from people with bare hands.Sorry its so confusing.didn't really know what to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cocaina 3 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 On 18/7/2017 at 8:10 PM, Turtle said: Warden needs a nerf. +5s beat Melee +10s in pvp. Gladiator is right I'm not sure what it's called it's the stone skin. My Hunter has 850 Damage and 40% Fero With Active Skill. I hit Miniiiq in pvp 258. at the time she had +10 Shield all +1 Armor. Even though I understand wardens can be tanks and aren't an insane damage class they're ridiculious if your not a healer and I've seen it on US a lot 1 Warden an Entire Town can't kill it without the warden potting maybe there Dmg isn't insane but let's Take thedeaath for example he has 800. If he can solo tank for 5 minutes and he just sits there bashing the flag how is war at all fair? why Mcs have just been Shit on past wars since June So the mc side has fair wars? Stealth +area stun are so fair mate. Come cry forum when mc has all the op pvp classes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cocaina 3 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 On 14/8/2017 at 6:56 PM, Daria said: There may be some fixes in the future, but there is no definite information about what and when is going to be fixed. All I can say it that we have to wait, because fixing and, thus, balancing classes is not an easy and fast thing. UPD moved the topic to a relevant section Yes, not easy make almost all mc class unbalanced lol Nerf useless warden and shut up that crying mcs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgings 1824 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 15 minutes ago, Cocaina said: Yes, not easy make almost all mc class unbalanced lol Nerf useless warden and shut up that crying mcs... Quite an old topic, this one, since wardens were nerfed already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle 198 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 On 1/15/2018 at 7:30 AM, Cocaina said: So the mc side has fair wars? Stealth +area stun are so fair mate. Come cry forum when mc has all the op pvp classes... It was Mega Nerfed just as I said so suck me Off and get lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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