BARBARIANS NEED NERF !!!

Blueranger · April 25, 2024

look at this video, even 10+ elves couldn't kill this barbarian and even dozens of mobs from raid boss enginerr couldn't kill him,even though he uses a pvp set,

this is really unnatural,we have the evidence and the data, so you can see it.

fix, there is no balance carried out by admin, developer, moderator in this game!

I hope you nerf the Barbarian in the near future

and be the balance in this game.thank you

Blueranger · April 25, 2024

3 hours ago, Bluethemar said:

look at this video, even 10+ elves couldn't kill this barbarian and even dozens of mobs from raid boss enginerr couldn't kill him,even though he uses a pvp set,

this is really unnatural,we have the evidence and the data, so you can see it.

fix, there is no balance carried out by admin, developer, moderator in this game!

I hope you nerf the Barbarian in the near future

and be the balance in this game.thank you

or its bugged?

Robin · April 25, 2024

52 minutes ago, Bluethemar said:

or its bugged?

Will be checked

Blueranger · April 25, 2024

11 minutes ago, Robin said:

Will be checked

alright,thank you @Robin

Laevateinn · April 26, 2024

Well elf has an old immortal class called warden.. :NY21_p15:
If you want to lower barbarian's tanking ability, you'll have to deal with warden first.

Edited April 26, 2024 by Laevateinn

Imedia · April 26, 2024

12 часов назад, Robin сказал:

Will be checked

barb using spam Greater Potion of Life

vegeta · April 26, 2024

22 hours ago, Blueranger said:

even though he uses a pvp set,

this is really unnatural,we have the evidence and the data, so you can see it.

Yes the merman gear with green aura let's mobs hit him harder which is PvP set ? Lmao

Marshemllo · April 26, 2024

1 hour ago, vegeta said:

Yes the merman gear with green aura let's mobs hit him harder which is PvP set ? Lmao

He’s clearly using pvp set and if he’s using pve set then how he can tanks all those elves attacking him? Clearly this class is bugged

Blueranger · April 26, 2024

On 4/26/2024 at 1:55 PM, Marshemllo said:

He’s clearly using pvp set and if he’s using pve set then how he can tanks all those elves attacking him? Clearly this class is bugged

you are absolutely right

On 4/26/2024 at 12:39 PM, vegeta said:

Yes the merman gear with green aura let's mobs hit him harder which is PvP set ? Lmao

you weren't there, and I witnessed it directly, and I have strong data and evidence in the video, that the barbarian skill has a bug

On 4/26/2024 at 12:39 PM, vegeta said:

Yes the merman gear with green aura let's mobs hit him harder which is PvP set ? Lmao

You looked really scared when the administrator said he would check it

So my suggestion is better let the administrator check it to validate it

On 4/26/2024 at 7:00 AM, Imedia said:

barb using spam Greater Potion of Life

My advice is to use your eyesight properly, all the evidence and data is in that video, sane people also know it's a skill bug

Slap · April 26, 2024

In your video I see 3 4 people focusing on him while the rest are dealing with the teleport and the mobs, so I don't see these " 10 people "or any mobs attacking the barbarian.

I was a main barbarian for almost 4 years and I know how that class works. He was prepared and fully buffed, while elves were clueless, walking around that area.

Your video proves nothing, get better.

Marshemllo · April 26, 2024

10 minutes ago, Slap said:

In your video I see 3 4 people focusing on him while the rest are dealing with the teleport and the mobs, so I don't see these " 10 people "or any mobs attacking the barbarian.

I was a main barbarian for almost 4 years and I know how that class works. He was prepared and fully buffed, while elves were clueless, walking around that area.

Your video proves nothing, get better.

We don’t ask for that much just check barb last wish and stone skin it seems bugged because how barbs tanky are more than any class same as warden before hope to live talent idk wish to live got bugged and game fixed the bug so we need fixing bugs and since you are barb user for more than 4 years you should understand that

Blueranger · April 26, 2024

18 minutes ago, Slap said:

In your video I see 3 4 people focusing on him while the rest are dealing with the teleport and the mobs, so I don't see these " 10 people "or any mobs attacking the barbarian.

I was a main barbarian for almost 4 years and I know how that class works. He was prepared and fully buffed, while elves were clueless, walking around that area.

Your video proves nothing, get better.

You don't see how many mobs/adds from Engi when he uses the PVP set?

Please look at the video again and after that you can go to the nearest hospital to check it @Slap

Let the administrator check it, because there is a bug in the skill barb. and he already said he would check that too

Edited April 26, 2024 by Blueranger

Slap · April 26, 2024

Stone + Roar + Heavy Mermen stacks + 55%-57% resilience from the resilience scroll he's using, reduces the incoming damage of mobs and players, so they are only annoying at this point, they slow the barbarian down from moving. There's nothing wrong with the class, you just need to focus on the barbarian together next time.

Edited April 26, 2024 by Slap

weasel · April 26, 2024

Well, what i see there is..

4-5 players focusing him while all others killing mobs/other players

Dude probably has, full parry, full dodge, full block, maxed tanking - healing- debuff skills /talents , lifeforce pot, self healing with health potions, full booked etc..

Y'all using pvp gears (low accu), probably some of those guys using pve weapons (because the raid boss is the priority, not the barb trolling)

I'm not excusing it, I'm just saying that a lot of factors can contribute, it's not all bugs

I mean, any tank with tons of buff, and built specifically to resist tons of damage, can do that sht..

If we compare , old warden was able to do what this barbarian is doing without buff/books, so this isnt new

weakplay · April 27, 2024

On 4/26/2024 at 11:42 PM, Theweasel said:

If we compare , old warden was able to do what this barbarian is doing without buff/books, so this isnt new

I agree with your comparison that the Barbarians need to be fix because the old guard was fixed.

I think that's the problem, it's not a bug, but it's not logical.

Gladiator · April 27, 2024

Yeah, it's not a "bug". It's worse - bad design.

Damage reduction, especially with heavy mermen gear, needs to (and -by admins- will) be reworked eventually. Currently they all add up and it makes the damage reduction too strong when there are many layers of them.

It also makes it possible in extreme cases for a PvP geared tank to receive even 0 damage in a PvE setting, and vice versa, PvE gear in PvP setting. Because it doesn't matter if the initial damage is 5k. If it's possible to reach 100% damage reduction, it will be 0.

Remember when Paladin received 0 damage at like 10% HP in the last rebalance test server? Of course instead of fixing the problem with damage reduction calculations, they nerfed Pala. So let's see what they do now.

Edited April 27, 2024 by Gladiator

Blueranger · April 27, 2024

15 hours ago, weakplay said:

I think that's the problem, it's not a bug, but it's not logical.

@Theweasel @Slap

have you seen what he sent?

What is next? Has the administrator checked it? because you said you would check it.Thank you in advance for responding well @Robin

Edited April 27, 2024 by Blueranger

Robin · April 27, 2024

We have come to the conclusion that this skill is working as intended at the moment. Data about it is always collected to determine if emergency changes are necessary.

Nevertheless, the complaints mean that this skill will be under additional scrutiny.

Higgings · April 27, 2024

@Blueranger

I thank you for your concern on this matter, but try not to flood the topic with several posts at once. Especially if the Edit button exists. Thank you for your collaboration in advance, mate! :thumbsup:

Shadowmon · April 28, 2024

Yea there's a wd name Terminator is immortal without buffs. But when he do buff up, he ain't dying. Kinda cool seeing players reaching to this level. Well invested characters.

Shboui · May 17, 2024

On 4/28/2024 at 5:55 AM, Robin said:

We have come to the conclusion that this skill is working as intended at the moment. Data about it is always collected to determine if emergency changes are necessary.

Nevertheless, the complaints mean that this skill will be under additional scrutiny.

Thanks for information！I'm looking forward to the next balance change that may lead to a better gaming experience.

In the video, barb using pvp set, engineer and mobs hit him 4hp, imagine how many hp if player hit this barb？(remember that resil increase damage from mobs, and decrease damage from player！)

In my opinion, rebalanced warden is a balanced tank.

But now barb is a completely hard rock, hardly be killed. He becomes invulnerable whenever skills working while low hp.

More than 10 elf attacks barb at the same time still can't kill barb.

After elf efforts attack him few minutes, when his hp began low and he will become too tank and only needed 1 hp pot, he back to all his states!

Not only is the video recorded this time, but we have been interfered by several barbs too many times at raid engineer(main reason engineer can heal himself, and barb too tank). 3 barbs can block 30 elfs...

I think we need to think about the balance of barb to maintain the balance of the game! Thanks！

Edited May 17, 2024 by Shboui

TheCaster · May 20, 2024

On 5/17/2024 at 8:47 PM, Shboui said:

I think we need to think about the balance of barb to maintain the balance of the game! Thanks！

Barbs are fine. Just like BDs and druids are fine. xD

Shadowmon · May 22, 2024

On 5/20/2024 at 12:42 AM, TheCaster said:

Barbs are fine. Just like BDs and druids are fine. xD

Agree. That barb had many buffs with books, pots, scrolls, maxed passive, mm active passive. Literally any tanks can get to this level when they're well invested and skill build for specific scenario. On top of that the talent system for tanking. Players keep forgetting that you can make any class broken. Nerfing will hurt the game since we keep getting new content that requires stronger gear. This game is already hard to grind because you need to play for hours a day. The more you nerf the class, the harder the game gets even after invest in time and money. That's how you lose player base.

I know I'm a bit off topic, but every players are not on this Barb level. This barb is 1/1000.

Edited May 22, 2024 by Shadowmon

LeafAutum · June 21, 2024

One side said that barb not OP, it's happen.One side make more and more barb character.LMAO

Newworldorder · June 21, 2024

Barbs are only good full book full amp full talent otherwise they are garbage. Bds can beat barb easy (saying their books gear is similar etc) but none talking about this

On 5/17/2024 at 6:47 PM, Shboui said:

Thanks for information！I'm looking forward to the next balance change that may lead to a better gaming experience.

In the video, barb using pvp set, engineer and mobs hit him 4hp, imagine how many hp if player hit this barb？(remember that resil increase damage from mobs, and decrease damage from player！)

In my opinion, rebalanced warden is a balanced tank.

But now barb is a completely hard rock, hardly be killed. He becomes invulnerable whenever skills working while low hp.

More than 10 elf attacks barb at the same time still can't kill barb.

After elf efforts attack him few minutes, when his hp began low and he will become too tank and only needed 1 hp pot, he back to all his states!

Not only is the video recorded this time, but we have been interfered by several barbs too many times at raid engineer(main reason engineer can heal himself, and barb too tank). 3 barbs can block 30 elfs...

I think we need to think about the balance of barb to maintain the balance of the game! Thanks！

This barb in the video is spamming warcry on mobs minions players etc. Every player/mob/npc/minion/ any thing you can put damage on hit by war cry makes last wish a lot faster. So only in case where player is surrounded by mobs this is possible with one branch and skill. This doesn’t happen in normal scenario. I can’t wait til the game is balanced too, BD shield, heal, damage. Druid tornado which doesn’t allow players to get to them- and insane heal. Seeing a Lot of druid’s nowadays for that reason.

Just because you can’t 100% win a character doesn’t mean they need a nerf.

Shadowmon · June 21, 2024

4 hours ago, Newworldorder said:

This barb in the video is spamming warcry on mobs minions players etc. Every player/mob/npc/minion/ any thing you can put damage on hit by war cry makes last wish a lot faster. So only in case where player is surrounded by mobs this is possible with one branch and skill. This doesn’t happen in normal scenario. I can’t wait til the game is balanced too, BD shield, heal, damage. Druid tornado which doesn’t allow players to get to them- and insane heal. Seeing a Lot of druid’s nowadays for that reason.

Just because you can’t 100% win a character doesn’t mean they need a nerf.

Yea. It's a bit lame for consistent nerf request. Meanwhile, the game is getting more content and more difficult(RIP F2P). Then they want the new content to be nerf. The players in this game is ridiculous. The goal is to scale and break the limits. You can't blame the players, the system is just outdated.

vavavi · June 23, 2024

On 6/21/2024 at 7:00 PM, Newworldorder said:

Barbs are only good full book full amp full talent otherwise they are garbage. Bds can beat barb easy (saying their books gear is similar etc) but none talking about this

You can't really balance things based on chars not fully geared/booked. If you start changing things based on that, then the people who do have the gears/books will be able to abuse such changes even more than the F2P players, which would just make the gap between F2P and paid people much larger.

Newworldorder · June 24, 2024

8 hours ago, vavavi said:

You can't really balance things based on chars not fully geared/booked. If you start changing things based on that, then the people who do have the gears/books will be able to abuse such changes even more than the F2P players, which would just make the gap between F2P and paid people much larger.

Agreed.

This ranger just had a hard time here.

hitmanz · November 4, 2024

Another BARBS HARD TO KILL EVEN VS MORE THEN 5 player. how the fk broke this hero and GM still do nothing about this . Pls do something about this develop. its alredy 1 year they OP like this

Just now, hitmanz said:

Another BARBS HARD TO KILL EVEN VS MORE THEN 5 player. how the fk broke this hero and GM still do nothing about this . Pls do something about this develop. its alredy 1 year they OP like this

YOUTUBE LINK :

hitmanz · November 4, 2024

1 minute ago, hitmanz said:

Another BARBS HARD TO KILL EVEN VS MORE THEN 5 player. how the fk broke this hero and GM still do nothing about this . Pls do something about this develop. its alredy 1 year they OP like this

YOUTUBE LINK :

@Robin @Dr Strange Can u guys explain about this barbs . why so hard to kill . its is normal or bug coze not even 1 barb hard to kill like this but more barbs . you guys can watch many video on this topic

hitmanz · November 5, 2024

Uslesss Forum. You guys cant answer my question. Better delete this forum

Robin · November 6, 2024

On 11/5/2024 at 12:40 AM, hitmanz said:

@Robin @Dr Strange Can u guys explain about this barbs . why so hard to kill . its is normal or bug coze not even 1 barb hard to kill like this but more barbs . you guys can watch many video on this topic

This is normal, considering that this is a barbarian player who has put a lot of time, effort, and resources into it.

No bugs here, but if changes need to be made, they will be done at the rebalance.

weasel · November 7, 2024

On 11/4/2024 at 6:29 PM, hitmanz said:

Another BARBS HARD TO KILL EVEN VS MORE THEN 5 player. how the fk broke this hero and GM still do nothing about this . Pls do something about this develop. its alredy 1 year they OP like this

ScreenRecording_11-05-2024 07-08-15_1.mov

YOUTUBE LINK :

XD

Dude invested a lot to make his barb full defensive with every defensive stat at max, and you want to nerf his class bcz his build work very well?

Clearly Envy

hitmanz · November 9, 2024

On 11/7/2024 at 9:26 AM, Theweasel said:

XD

Dude invested a lot to make his barb full defensive with every defensive stat at max, and you want to nerf his class bcz his build work very well?

Clearly Envy

Watch again the video bro. how many player attacks him and everyone who attacks him also pro and invested a lot in game but still hard to kill that barb. so stop talking about invested, everyone invested in this game not only you. barbarian char should nerf because broke. already have a prof on video in this topic.

weasel · November 9, 2024

11 hours ago, hitmanz said:

Watch again the video bro. how many player attacks him and everyone who attacks him also pro and invested a lot in game but still hard to kill that barb. so stop talking about invested, everyone invested in this game not only you. barbarian char should nerf because broke. already have a prof on video in this topic.

Go inspect him, he has a mixed build between pve and pvp, One thing you'll notice is that he has defensive stats with critical effects such as parry/dodge/block, thats basically a build specifically made to mess with ppl with no accuracy (most of full pvp players)

So here is no bug or something, the class works as is intended and this dude is taking advantage of what i mentioned before, pvp players doesnt have a decent amount of accuracy when they're going full pvp sets

Also i bet his skill build is made to full endurance, that means he has a shitty damage, this is in fact how tanks should work, but well.. Is warspear everyone wants do everything ..

hitmanz · November 10, 2024

13 hours ago, Theweasel said:

Go inspect him, he has a mixed build between pve and pvp, One thing you'll notice is that he has defensive stats with critical effects such as parry/dodge/block, thats basically a build specifically made to mess with ppl with no accuracy (most of full pvp players)

So here is no bug or something, the class works as is intended and this dude is taking advantage of what i mentioned before, pvp players doesnt have a decent amount of accuracy when they're going full pvp sets

Also i bet his skill build is made to full endurance, that means he has a shitty damage, this is in fact how tanks should work, but well.. Is warspear everyone wants do everything ..

Dont only inspect him. inspect too who attacked him. them full pvp set too mixed build between pve and pvp. one thing you'll notice is them full state with book such fero, pene , and accury. thats basically a build specifically made of full damaged pvp and not only 1 player but more then 5. so here if not bug that mean barb char is broke hero and need neft.

also some of them used full skill and talent dmger pvp but still cant kill a solo barb. yes. everyone only want fair game and balance every hero in this game. but watch again the video how broke this barb. that why i complain. u can watch with your eye , dont skip it befor talk. that prof barb is broke hero

Edited November 10, 2024 by hitmanz

weakplay · November 10, 2024

The only problem for the barbarians is this:

Looking at the power of this skill, even with such poor equipment, it can have a good survival ability in the situation in the video, I wonder if any elf class can do this

Somehow mcs keep ignoring him, maybe 100% damage reduction is reasonable for them, but can't tolerate tornadoes and bd :dunno:

Edited November 10, 2024 by weakplay

weasel · November 10, 2024

6 hours ago, weakplay said:

Looking at the power of this skill, even with such poor equipment, it can have a good survival ability in the situation in the video, I wonder if any elf class can do this

Wardens can do this if has the same equipment, the only difference is that wardens has a constant self healing , while barbs has high resistance when low health.

6 hours ago, weakplay said:

Somehow mcs keep ignoring him, maybe 100% damage reduction is reasonable for them, but can't tolerate tornadoes and bd

Barbs inmortality skill existed since ever, As well as the haters :fuck_that:

weakplay · November 10, 2024

54 minutes ago, Theweasel said:

Wardens can do this if has the same equipment, the only difference is that wardens has a constant self healing , while barbs has high resistance when low health.

Wait for your video, the same conditions, the same quality, the same amount of mcs to do the same effect in the video

55 minutes ago, Theweasel said:

Barbs inmortality skill existed since ever, As well as the haters

But the problem was not felt until after the 2023 balance, for reasons I think you also know, yes, he and the tornado are both new, not from the beginning.

Newworldorder · November 10, 2024

3 hours ago, weakplay said:

Wait for your video, the same conditions, the same quality, the same amount of mcs to do the same effect in the video

But the problem was not felt until after the 2023 balance, for reasons I think you also know, yes, he and the tornado are both new, not from the beginning.

Actually all Elf classes should be nerfed until population is close to balanced. For 12 years, elf have had a huge population. You take advantage of a huge population and no mc class needs a nerf. In fact if you did research you’d realize that the war cry lessens the last wish time when you hit an enemy. So at 4/4 war cry he is hitting all these pve mobs. In a normal situation this doesn’t happen. I suggest getting better and not logging a low level named Xkiller to be as toxic as you are. You are probably the most toxic player on the US ELF side and when something doesn’t go your way you make forum post and cry. You can’t have everything in your faction, if mc was more OP the balance wouldn’t be 4-1 in favor or elf side.

Edited November 10, 2024 by Newworldorder

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