lallouss 854 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 why was blades passive given a nerf? when a dual wield char with a on hit nuke was given it why was dk given this skill? because we dont have a straight physical damage skill other than hurricane tell me how im supposed to get bosses during farms i might listen to your opinion after i suggest u watch this pro dk in action Turtle, Erta06 and nabnecro 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdFootedMole 29 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 yes pala is a real tank a real tank of water. XD good one Erta06 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mailliwdxb 86 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 yes how did that pro dk do it? 4/4 satu 4/4 hurricane now what happens when you interchange skill points and see how you cant make an ideal build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprememan 22 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Barb charge now has dmg. 530 from 580 normal %) but fail stun has increased lol. 4/5 failed at skill lv 5/5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mailliwdxb 86 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 besides i dont plan on changing sooo :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladiator 1146 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 (edited) Barb charge now has dmg. 530 from 580 normal %) but fail stun has increased lol. 4/5 failed at skill lv 5/5 Are you trolling or seriously complaining? I hope you realize Barb has got a buff when it didn't need. Edited September 15, 2016 by Gladiator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omercix 277 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Ninjadoc , are sure about %26 + dmg on 4/4 lvl of that skill ? I thought it was %20. Higgings 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgings 1824 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Agree with mailli. Dks needed finally a buff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgings 1824 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Omer, 908 dmg is with skill at 3/4. I must correct myself on the message I've sent you. My bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladiator 1146 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Agree with mailli. Dks needed finally a buff. Mailli is the only one who knows DK didn't need a buff, and he knows that I know that he knows :3 But he strives to get his class to be OP. Higgings 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprememan 22 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 (edited) What I would like to know is; What is the enchanting box for located on some skills? Edited September 15, 2016 by Suprememan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mailliwdxb 86 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 my class is so weak i could only solo hamsters before Erta06 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladiator 1146 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 What I would like to know is; What is the enchanting box for located on some skills? Roland said there will be power up option for skills, and more details in the release announcement. Suprememan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja 82 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 (edited) Ninja got those statistics by playing dk, he told u its better version than power of blades which everyone cried on fixing it, even at 4/4 pow of bd is less than 4/4 dk skill I agree with Ninja should be given more defence than damage Exactly, Pow of blades gives max +20% dmg, this dk skill gives +30%More dmg means more life steal, too... soon DK can solo Elm I would prefer a skill giving 100% dodge for few seconds (good to run/cross when 10 mobs on u) Edited September 15, 2016 by Ninja lallouss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladiator 1146 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Exactly, Pow of blades gives max +20% dmg, this dk skill gives +26% That means 26% more life steal, too... soon DK can solo Elm I would prefer a skill giving 100% dodge for few seconds (good to run/cross when 10 mobs on u) And don't forget the def buff, that's almost equal to the paladin's. Now you might be asking yourself: Why Paladin doesn't get more def from the buff instead of the damage that DK got? Because we are supporters, and because f*** Paladin being a tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgings 1824 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Mailli is the only one who knows DK didn't need a buff, and he knows that I know that he knows :3 But he strives to get his class to be OP. He knows that I knows that he knows '-' Ill put like just for the sentence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja 82 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 I feel DK tankier than Pala And now Dark Shield seems even better DK just needs a fetter/rush/jump skill to get out of mobs, not more dmg/def lallouss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bdsc 41 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Shaman new skill: Instantly heals a fixed amount and increases max hp for some time Cooldown 120sec On a sham lvl 26 (magic dmg doesn't matter): Heal HP Duration 267 +14.4% 30s 356 +19.2% 45s 445 +24.0% 60s 534 +28.8% 90s Hmm 4/4 will be good if heal is 800+ and your sham has 35%+cd I think I reached 94 sec cd with 3/4 ritual skill and 15% basic cd hmmIf you have +40% cd this skill is gonna be Almost all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bdsc 41 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Pala new skill need a buff I think 20% Def at 4/4 is good for now Rouges ref hmm Idk what to say really my rouge can't kill a mini boss after this you guys should add a stacked buff but make it take longer to recharge during battles not just change the entire skill mechanism Sham skill need to lower it's CD and increase healing Most rouges Don't know how they gonna rebuild their char after this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akasha 2058 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 (edited) It's either me or some of you, guys, did not understand me. Can you specify? Max ho buff is ok...but low instant heal is useless at Now. And cd...120 sec...lol Fix that The point is...you write" replace full hp"and at now hp replaced is 260...this is why... take a look Peter, I'm able to give you details tomorrow, but this is the point. the expectation was an instant restoration of full HP + an additional % in the total life (an effect with specific duration which could be used more than once during an avarage battle time) I know it's too early to say, but unless these parameters are chaged (particularly, I didnt check the numbers yet) this skill likely won't take a place in my hotkeys.. or wdk how to use it properly and ask you to help us Edited September 15, 2016 by Majestrix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja 82 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Ninjadoc , are sure about %26 + dmg on 4/4 lvl of that skill ? I thought it was %20. Yes, 749 to 949, but using 2 iceq rings Without rings should be 669 to 869 (or +30%) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja 82 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 I recalc all % without iceq rings (got round values this time) New DK skill Lvl Dmg Def Duration 1/4 +11% +1% 5sec? 2/4 +15% +2% 15sec? 3/4 +20% +3% 30sec 4/4 +30% +4% 45sec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladiator 1146 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 (edited) Pro tip: Buffs do not buff percentages, aka ice items, guild buffs, shield passive buff, etc. When you calculate try to get rid of all % buffs to get accurate numbers. So probably your numbers without ice items are more accurate. And more OP (: Edited September 15, 2016 by Gladiator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgings 1824 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Pro tip: Buffs do not buff percentages, aka ice items, guild buffs, etc. When you calculate try to get rid of all % buffs to get accurate numbers. So probably your numbers without ice items are more accurate. And more OP (: Yes exactly. I was going to write it but you were more fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lallouss 854 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 I recalc all % without iceq rings (got round values this time) New DK skill Lvl Dmg Def Duration 1/4 +11% +1% 5sec? 2/4 +15% +2% 15sec? 3/4 +20% +3% 30sec 4/4 +30% +4% 45sec its about time dk got a dmg skill he couldnt kill a rabit especially dopknight who doesnt tank all elfs or mecha who doesnt solo dungeons *insert dope meme here* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja 82 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Ye, % items/buffs stacks additively I forgot I had % rings, so I recalc correct values (11-15-20-30%) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xallen 3 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 (edited) I think buying that hp incrase shaman skill is pointless since ur dmg from fire totem on 4/4 can heal you more if u have lifesteal eq and be more useful in pve than that hp skill guys also u can put 3x time totem in 120sec summary hit 15 times(for example 600 when 10% lifesteal is 60, 60x15 is 900) gj devs 500 hp skill op Edited September 15, 2016 by Xallen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corona virus 230 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 My sham totem heal is 4/4 and I got 16.6% life steal with 563 magic(base, no bonus) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mailliwdxb 86 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Fine then... A 4/4 dmg buff... That doesn't link with any other skills dk has... People still want to nerf it.. Be my guest.... The same logic could be applied to banner at 4/4 eh? The thing is.. This skill is useless in pvp and is a pve based skill (lack of stuns if you donate sp to this) a pve based skill won't get a nerf unless it's horribly broken.. And by the looks of things.. Its just a damage and def up... I could care less.. Whether the skill got any changes..but pve based dks seem to like it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja 82 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 (edited) DK lvl 28 can have both dmg skill and silence 4/4 Op in pvp too, I bet elf/barbs will cry Anyway Im not saying it needs a nerf, but so much dmg doesn't fit a tank And I would prefer an useful skill, rather than this boring dmg pseudo-passive Edited September 16, 2016 by Ninja Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazelnut 600 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Tbh, im kinda disappointed too bout this update Mc side has become more superior since the 2nd expert skills' update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bdsc 41 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Tbh, im kinda disappointed too bout this update Mc side has become more superior since the 2nd expert skills' update. Wow you really have a population problem in your server How ever the most 2 op classes (bd and rogue) got major nerf And some wishes has been granted " priest finally got a stun 'even if its combo stun '" Some useless skills where added Seems like a fair update even i personally don't like rouge changes" pve based tests " but there will be more time and more fixs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazelnut 600 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 (edited) Wow you really have a population problem in your server How ever the most 2 op classes (bd and rogue) got major nerf And some wishes has been granted " priest finally got a stun 'even if its combo stun '" Some useless skills where added Seems like a fair update even i personally don't like rouge changes" pve based tests " but there will be more time and more fixs How about dk and wlocks? Mage = okay.U know, mcs have major advantages in group, specially in the war. But at least they buff mages and palas this time. Edited September 16, 2016 by Livi Ladyspear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bdsc 41 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 How about dk and wlocks? Mage = okayHaha druid / ranger ppl say got good skill i personally haven't seen or think its good since require melee combat wlock skill make you move slow melee classes only get affected + lock already control them btw priest got same skill just yellow version of it Dk seems op but most dk i know full stun or full tanking none gone op dmg 25% 4/4? Maybe needs more CD or less % Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazelnut 600 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Well, let see after update happens xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boiz 10 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Seeing people complain about bd "nerf" makes me so happy Get the F over yourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle 198 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Oh Yay i can Talk now And most likely am gona get banned for my oppinion again YAYYY Well Test Server was fun Thank you Daria for trying out my instant death by Elfs i Loved it Heres my Feed back Well Any Intelligent Blade Dancer (I know u Redneck Blade dancers might not understand this theorology) But i saw a very smart man say it earlier if i could quote i would. You get hamstringed ever 6 seconds and for people with High dmg counter wasnt nerfed much i didnt notice a difference honestly... Didnt pvp enough bds... but i did try the set on my lv18 and pretty sure at +8 outdated it would kill my Rogue. New Rogue Skill is Absolute Garbage weaker then Flurry of steel.... Thanks though it looks cool Reflex also is garbage idk what to do cus its Utterly useless thanks again no expert skills for Rogue are good now besides Poison No Druids or Bds should be complaining at all "Oh no i cant rely on counter now! you mean i have to use a real setup? I cant be pro at +6 anymore OH NO" its okay Bds ur still better then rogues And Julia Honey If u want we can skype and ill show you How much dmg my Rogue is taking on server because its pathetic compared to before but please keep banning me and telling me how Weak bds are instead of asking for clear examples of why skills need fixed Also Ranger Skill needs a Dmg Buff or to be used at range. ANDDDDD Lock Skill not workin Right i think... It slows down at all times not just in plash but its legit only mc skill i approve mage skill so op it effects ur entire party.... please fix that cus i dont wanna have my cornhole raped in war by unstunnable Blade dancers and last but not least... Anyone seen Paladins Skill yet? I think palas need a buff and i think dk buff is Bs Honestly Dk was already Op if a good player with a solid build Now its just like here lets give them a duck ton of dmg and thats from a rogue/Ranger/Shams perspective now i wont survive one stun cycle specially cus i cant dodge now lol :^) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notouchme 0 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Meus deus, fico indignado lendo comentários sobre Warlock dizendo ficar OP mais uma vez... Druid uma classe cheio de Stun e Heal, "Cria uma barreira mágica em torno de um carácter ou aliado que consome certa quantidade de danos e restaura a mesma quantidade de saúde" e ninguém fala, nossa que OP. Ranger perfeito, ótima habilidade, para uma classe que diz ser full ataque quando você vai cria-la, arqueiros estavam abandonados. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieinpeace 48 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Oh Yay i can Talk now And most likely am gona get banned for my oppinion again YAYYY Well Test Server was fun Thank you Daria for trying out my instant death by Elfs i Loved it Heres my Feed back Well Any Intelligent Blade Dancer (I know u Redneck Blade dancers might not understand this theorology) But i saw a very smart man say it earlier if i could quote i would. You get hamstringed ever 6 seconds and for people with High dmg counter wasnt nerfed much i didnt notice a difference honestly... Didnt pvp enough bds... but i did try the set on my lv18 and pretty sure at +8 outdated it would kill my Rogue. New Rogue Skill is Absolute Garbage weaker then Flurry of steel.... Thanks though it looks cool Reflex also is garbage idk what to do cus its Utterly useless thanks again no expert skills for Rogue are good now besides Poison No Druids or Bds should be complaining at all "Oh no i cant rely on counter now! you mean i have to use a real setup? I cant be pro at +6 anymore OH NO" its okay Bds ur still better then rogues And Julia Honey If u want we can skype and ill show you How much dmg my Rogue is taking on server because its pathetic compared to before but please keep banning me and telling me how Weak bds are instead of asking for clear examples of why skills need fixed Also Ranger Skill needs a Dmg Buff or to be used at range. ANDDDDD Lock Skill not workin Right i think... It slows down at all times not just in plash but its legit only mc skill i approve mage skill so op it effects ur entire party.... please fix that cus i dont wanna have my cornhole raped in war by unstunnable Blade dancers and last but not least... Anyone seen Paladins Skill yet? I think palas need a buff and i think dk buff is Bs Honestly Dk was already Op if a good player with a solid build Now its just like here lets give them a duck ton of dmg and thats from a rogue/Ranger/Shams perspective now i wont survive one stun cycle specially cus i cant dodge now lol :^) You are not being banned for saying your opinion, I think you are being banned for the WAY you say your opinion...chosse your words wisely or talk to Amnesty International Morgana 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle 198 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Freedom Of Speech Smd i have my Inalienable Rights. XD people are saying alot more insulting things then i am and not getting banned its cus my oppinion went against hers and that is the only reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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