ColdFootedMole 29 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 e.e i saw superadmin! i feel like i've seen a rare pokemon or something xD thanks for test server devs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgana 780 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 what dmging ability you talk about? you deal the same dmg from all skill just counter nerfed and cry? lol look your race bonus and passive dmg up vs rogue bonus and compare how much bd has more def than rog because able to use tank eq lol.Like for example mc cs hits with a low chance 100-150dmg on casters.-.Power of bladeds must be used as an active skill and supports only basic damage It would have been fine with a cs cd increase and maybe as counter 50% of your own damage but not 50% of the damage you receive :/ Gonna take it now the way it is I shouldn't complain and maybe it will be better in future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgings 1870 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 See it on the good side, if you pvp an op, you will deal a good dmg. Finally we will see bds skills ans not 1 skill doing the whole job. The op, btw, must not be a barbarian or a mage, since their new skill in pvp litterally rocks nabnecro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firemastar 6 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 1 qustion , that clear we have skills slots problem i already have penetration book on, any plan to split event book to spical skills slot and make it use other slots than expert skill slots ? only 6 slot expert is rely low number Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firemastar 6 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 See it on the good side, if you pvp an op, you will deal a good dmg. Finally we will see bds skills ans not 1 skill doing the whole job. The op, btw, must not be a barbarian or a mage, since their new skill in pvp litterally rocks barb skill like joke 10sec effect , 30mana point , 1m CD time ((at 4/4)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REAPER 111 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 i tested bladedancers counterstrike and now it does damage based on how much he receives. same like retribution works. 2nd the new boost at sap from 25+-% minus damage it gave to opponent reduces now 35%. i did not check how much dexterity it reduces but so far its -29.9% . 3rd. the new expert adds up to 15% cooldown at 4lvl. 1=5 2=7 3=10% i cant recall how much dexterity it boosts at each lvl. after this, im not so sure bladedancers got nerfed. with a good set and crit charms you can hamstring each 6-7 seconds. Alonexpro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgings 1870 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 barb skill like joke 10sec effect , 30mana point , 1m CD time ((at 4/4)) Still you can resist some skills. It's op as hell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siddu 4 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Idk y counter damage decreased too much with 45sec CD. 2changes in an update... could u admin ppl guide me, r those bds too much op than all charecters really? , u ppl better to remove counter attack expert than using nd the new expert is worst ever no use full Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skizoskilz 17 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 (edited) Bd players are going to complain a lot (sorry but it's including me too). The nerf was just too big guys. Comparing our damaging abilities to rogues damaging ability it's just a joke now :3 Lucky that I have a druid too :/ Anyways, let's see how it's going to work out in future. I'm a bit disappointed Don't you think BD's ruled the game a bit too long? And about the counter, i don't think is normal to hit a bd 300 and got countered 2000 do you? This is hoe counter should work: reflect with 50% chance half of damage you receive... The nerf is more than welcome on bds, and it could of been worse (should of but...) anyway the druids will be op as always so no reason to complain Edited September 15, 2016 by skizoskilz nabnecro and Higgings 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgana 780 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 I don't see any good side. Let's take a +10 rogue who uses stealth and strikes me with a 1k hit, with a little little chance and if cs is not on cd, i can counter and it would hit him 500dmg if he hadn't about 5k defense .-. What the hell is the good side of that? A +9/10 rogue could kill me in the time when my cs in cd and not even activated lel. And in dungeon vs adds its seeeeriously useless when it his 100 damage every 10 hits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgings 1870 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 i tested bladedancers counterstrike and now it does damage based on how much he receives. same like retribution works. 2nd the new boost at sap from 25+-% minus damage it gave to opponent reduces now 35%. i did not check how much dexterity it reduces but so far its -29.9% . 3rd. the new expert adds up to 15% cooldown at 4lvl. 1=5 2=7 3=10% i cant recall how much dexterity it boosts at each lvl. after this, im not so sure bladedancers got nerfed. with a good set and crit charms you can hamstring each 6-7 seconds. Someone who uses skills. Although I hate some bds mechanics, It's interesting your "recension" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgana 780 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Don't you think BD's ruled the game a bit too long? The nerf is more than welcome on bds, and it could of been worse (should of but...) anyway the druids will be op as always so no reason to complain I said a nerf on bds was okay *scared* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladiator 1201 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 (edited) Another trash skill for Paladin. I don't think Paladins can get any trasher. Trashest class. *preparing for a new rant* Edited September 15, 2016 by Gladiator ColdFootedMole and lallouss 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siddu 4 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Yes @ Julie waste expert counter now ...agree with u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muikkulii 0 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 New pala skill is not good because u HAVE To be in party to use it, so u cant use it just for ur self :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akasha 2059 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Full HP + increased for a period of time. I've seen several shamans complaining about. If the skill doesnt work this way, you just gave us a Trojan horse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buuuu 42 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Peter pls reply something about the shaman skill as u said it restores full HP but it doesn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skizoskilz 17 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 (edited) I said a nerf on bds was okay *scared*Well yes but tell me honestly: do you think is normal to hit 300 (or even worse from 50/60 hp from pool or life exhaust) and countered 2k+ as a cloth armor user u don't have so much def, so if u got luck and cs will crit too u pretty much ucked up in 2 counters...maybe you playing as a healer u don't feel so much a counter u can crit heal etc, but as a wl if u got caught ure dead like 0 chances of surviving... Edited September 15, 2016 by skizoskilz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REAPER 111 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 you all know that this was the first day of the T-E-S-T server right? it was a first view of mechanics and changes. personally the two things i disliked about the new skills are that necro boosts physical damage %, and that priest's expert is pretty much useless like all so far. Time will tell what will change and what will make it to the live version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelvzs 45 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Is rogue "Poisonous Blade" bugged at Test Server? or Its really also get nerfed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgings 1870 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 (edited) I don't see any good side. Let's take a +10 rogue who uses stealth and strikes me with a 1k hit, with a little little chance and if cs is not on cd, i can counter and it would hit him 500dmg if he hadn't about 5k defense .-. What the hell is the good side of that? A +9/10 rogue could kill me in the time when my cs in cd and not even activated lel. And in dungeon vs adds its seeeeriously useless when it his 100 damage every 10 hits See? That's exactly what I was talking about. You and all your friends bds ( lots of them at least ) relied on cs power only. Nerf it and suddenly everyone goes in panic. In my opinion this will help many ops to use stats instead of extreme strenght. It was needed and half players complained about it. You are still a Heavy Armour user with 1000 dmg more. A combo causes still a lot of problems to players. Edit: I'm sorry if I seem rude, I'm just trying to have a confrontation with your ( everyone ) point of view. Edited September 15, 2016 by Higgings Omercix and Ninja 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelvzs 45 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 (edited) Rogue "Absolute Reflexes" is like forcing u to go Dodge Build ahahahaBut still i like the old "Absolute Reflexes" better than now Edited September 15, 2016 by Kelvzs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabnecro 304 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 BD was completely BROKEN. Now he is balanced, all people crying are those who play without using the brain and want to win the game using 2 skills (hamstring and counterstrike). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wintr 1 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Reflexes is beast now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgana 780 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Well yes but tell me honestly: do you think is normal to hit 300 (or even worse from 50/60 hp from pool or life exhaust) and countered 2k+ as a cloth armor user u don't have so much def, so if u got luck and cs will crit too u pretty much ucked up in 2 counters... No that's why I said a nerf was okay, but a nerf that basically makes all bds feeling lkee dropping the ski? Same with power of blades, I know a few and myself who really don't know which skills to use and which to drop because they all seem equally to be rubbish now, in a way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelvzs 45 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 BD was completely BROKEN. Now he is balanced, all people crying are those who play without using the brain and want to win the game using 2 skills (hamstring and counterstrike). Exactly, All BD's with +10 Fero Axe, +10 Arena Armor, u don't even need brain to play it, just press Counterstrike > Hamstring > Flash Strike > Sonic Boom and deal 5-6k DMG instant.. Now they BALANCED, let's see how the Smart player play nabnecro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bdsc 41 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Another trash skill for Paladin. I don't think Paladins can get any trasher. Trashest class. *preparing for a new rant* You should see rouges Poison now is 1 use ref got totally missed up and now requires new build and new gear for ppl who don't use dodge sets and new skill is crap add 40+ dmg point from 530+ and last 10 sec only even rage is better btw 10 sec 4/4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja 82 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Counter was broken in tecno/kronus DG top With enough life steal, CS 4/4 made bd self-healing tanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuukean 0 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 I have another question. When players lets say +7 mayby +8 can do Technopolis dungeon? Never? Ty ^^ My BD is +8 and still manage to get through Hero Techno in one stam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelvzs 45 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 (edited) You should see rouges Poison now is 1 use ref got totally missed up and now requires new build and new gear for ppl who don't use dodge sets and new skill is crap add 40+ dmg point from 530+ and last 10 sec only even rage is better btw 10 sec 4/4 Rogue new skill at 4/4 decreased enemy def 1,2k.. i try with a player with a 3,5k def, and after i use skill his def decreased 1,2k But it last very fast.. So i don't think its worth to put points in it.. and the damage is low :! Btw about poison i hope its bugged,, and not nerfed like that Edited September 15, 2016 by Kelvzs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REAPER 111 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Counter was broken in tecno/kronus DG top With enough life steal, CS 4/4 made bd self-healing tanks and this is why the next expert skill for blade dancer will be heal/recover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelvzs 45 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 and this is why the next expert skill for blade dancer will be heal/recover So all Elfs now will quit BD, and Mage is the most populated class now? Mage was the rarest class now, and wow its suddenly boom to be the most populated class:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelvzs 45 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 (edited) By the way, why people only talk about BD's and Rogue's.. Where the sound of Rangers I heard they got a good stun skill Edited September 15, 2016 by Kelvzs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdFootedMole 29 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 you all know that this was the first day of the T-E-S-T server right? it was a first view of mechanics and changes. personally the two things i disliked about the new skills are that necro boosts physical damage %, and that priest's expert is pretty much useless like all so far. Time will tell what will change and what will make it to the live version. what? how do you dislike this? it makes necro an even better party damage/defense supporter, this is perfectly fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omercix 277 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Someone please share dk new skill stats...m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akasha 2059 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 1 thing: BDs never worried about unbalance all this time. If u think this is too much unbalaced you may create dozens of topics, send screenshots, "crying" about that or deal with it and wait next uptade and maybe they correct (IF there is some technical error in fact) as we all have done so far Gendolf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgana 780 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Nah no need to cry about it It is the way it is now, just saying I'm unhappy but eventually I will get used to it Unfeliz, Akasha and ColdFootedMole 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REAPER 111 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 (edited) what? how do you dislike this? it makes necro an even better party damage/defense supporter, this is perfectly fair. necro has an expert that gives ONLY physical damage. necro use magic damage. it is useless for all casters in party. maybe you never invite shaman and warlock. Edited September 15, 2016 by REAPER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skizoskilz 17 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 (edited) Sry for double post:! Edited September 15, 2016 by skizoskilz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja 82 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Rogue changes (approx stats): Poison is applied just once (but can poison 4 targets with 1 ricochet) New Reflex adds 10-14-18-20% dodge and atk speed (for 5-15 sec after each dodge) New skill hits 200-350 and reduces def by 2-4% for 5-10 sec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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