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Happy new year everyone!

Happy new year everyone!

Happy new year everyone!

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Not gonna lie, I was expecting more from this update in the balancing aspect as a Paladin. That's not to say that the classes overall might or might not be balanced better, that will be determined over time. I'm just bummed out that the same 3-4 skills that were predominantly used and leveled up  before this update will still be the meta for palas, other skills remain to be underwhelming in comparison.
Oh well, I guess it's gonna have to be next year's balance update. 

For sure craft needs an overhaul, it's very outdated, and the gear there can easily get surpassed by seasonal gear/weapons or arena accessories, oh and especially mermen gear.
Now I do think the current craft gear and materials can stay the same (for mid tier, relatively low cost gear), but I definitely wouldn't mind a way to craft gear with desired stats, even if it was locked behind a separate progression system, where crafters can choose a path and slowly unlock secondary stat slots and certain stats that they can put into their gear.
It's a shame that crafting is very underdeveloped imo, it has a big potential.

So my thoughts:
 
 Fetters of Justice
Whatever, I think it's fine. That being said I feel like that nerf is was thought for PvP so I would have preferred if the damage reduction only applied in PvE and not PvP, since the silence effect is mostly useless in PvE, 10-20% damage reduction for a couple of seconds however can come in handy in PvE, especially against ranged units.
 
 
 Light Aura
I already expressed my thoughts here: 
 
 
To summarize: Around 400% increase in mana cost for the same strength, totally unnecessary nerf, it was already bad enough. Never use it unless you have infinite mana.
 
 
 Heavenly Light
 Illumination
 Harad's Call
 Repellent Strike
 Sun Seal
I'm ok with all these changes, it seems though that we will see more physical damage 1h mace builds. Especially that Sun Seal is now more reliable for strike combo heal, and Strike stuns longer. I think 1h physical maces might become dominant in arena.
 
I do wish Sun Seal was a bit better of a skill on its own, we use just to increase banner damage or as combo with shield strike. Never for its actual effect. What's the point of leveling it up?
 
 
 Harad's Banner
Very interesting change, I see it as a buff for sure, the only time where it would be considered a nerf is if you catch only 1-2 people in the banner. When hitting 3+ targets it is actually a big buff. 
Considering we can use shield on ourselves now, it makes total sense that 1v1 damage would be nerfed, even if Illumination and Call damage is reduced, it makes sense with the increase in magic in hammers + banner aoe damage increase, otherwise Paladin's AoE damage will get kinda crazy. so I'll take that.
 
 
 Sacred Shield
 Paladin's Prayer
In my opinion, they are still the best skills for Paladin, unfortunately, this change will not change that. Shield is still not as OP as it used to be that's for sure. But with the lack of other defensive options, Paladins will still continue to run 4/4 shields.
 
What I like about prayer change though, is that it's not as effective as a heal skill anymore, it will be used more as it was intended to be - to initially increase the max hp. This also balances the support abilities of physical damage builds, which imo is a good direction.
 
 
 Inner Forces
 Light Defense
This was their opportunity to provide some variety to Paladin builds, but they failed. Those 2 skills still suck.
I was excited for the balance changes, just to change my skill build and try something new. They gave us this big expectation for this update that it will change a lot. For palas nothing will change...
1-handed palas will still level up shield, prayer and strike
2-handed palas will still level up shield, prayer and banner
Thanks for the new skill icon though, huge change! :)
 
This topic is thought for discussing the upcoming changes in a less clouded topic, what are your thoughts on it? What do you think the future of Paladin holds?
 

So my thoughts:
 
 Fetters of Justice
Whatever, I think it's fine. That being said I feel like that nerf is was thought for PvP so I would have preferred if the damage reduction only applied in PvE and not PvP, since the silence effect is mostly useless in PvE, 10-20% damage reduction for a couple of seconds however can come in handy in PvE, especially against ranged units.
 
 
 Light Aura
I already expressed my thoughts here: 
 
 
To summarize: Around 400% increase in mana cost for the same strength, totally unnecessary nerf, it was already bad enough. Never use it unless you have infinite mana.
 
 
 Heavenly Light
 Illumination
 Harad's Call
 Repellent Strike
 Sun Seal
I'm ok with all these changes, it seems though that we will see more physical damage 1h mace builds. Especially that Sun Seal is now more reliable for strike combo heal, and Strike stuns longer. I think 1h physical maces might become dominant in arena.
 
I do wish Sun Seal was a bit better of a skill on its own, we use just to increase banner damage or as combo with shield strike. Never for its actual effect. What's the point of leveling it up?
 
 
 Harad's Banner
Very interesting change, I see it as a buff for sure, the only time where it would be considered a nerf is if you catch only 1-2 people in the banner. When hitting 3+ targets it is actually a big buff. 
Considering we can use shield on ourselves now, it makes total sense that 1v1 damage would be nerfed, even if Illumination and Call damage is reduced, it makes sense with the increase in magic in hammers + banner aoe damage increase, otherwise Paladin's AoE damage will get kinda crazy. so I'll take that.
 
 
 Sacred Shield
 Paladin's Prayer
In my opinion, they are still the best skills for Paladin, unfortunately, this change will not change that. Shield is still not as OP as it used to be that's for sure. But with the lack of other defensive options, Paladins will still continue to run 4/4 shields.
 
What I like about prayer change though, is that it's not as effective as a heal skill anymore, it will be used more as it was intended to be - to initially increase the max hp. This also balances the support abilities of physical damage builds, which imo is a good direction.
 
 
 Inner Forces
 Light Defense
This was their opportunity to provide some variety to Paladin builds, but they failed. Those 2 skills still suck.
I was excited for the balance changes, just to change my skill build and try something new. They gave us this big expectation for this update that it will change a lot. For palas nothing will change...
1-handed palas will still level up shield, prayer and strike
2-handed palas will still level up shield, prayer and banner
Thanks for the new skill icon though, huge change! :)
 
This topic is thought for discussing the upcoming changes in a less clouded topic, what are your thoughts on it? What do you think the future of Paladin holds?
 

So my thoughts:
 
 Fetters of Justice
Whatever, I think it's fine. That being said I feel like that nerf is was thought for PvP so I would have preferred if the damage reduction only applied in PvE and not PvP, since the silence effect is mostly useless in PvE, 10-20% damage reduction for a couple of seconds however can come in handy in PvE, especially against ranged units.
 
 
 Light Aura
I already expressed my thoughts here: 
 
 
To summarize: Around 400% increase in mana cost for the same strength, totally unnecessary nerf, it was already bad enough. Never use it unless you have infinite mana.
 
 
 Heavenly Light
 Illumination
 Harad's Call
 Repellent Strike
 Sun Seal
I'm ok with all these changes, it seems though that we will see more physical damage 1h mace builds. Especially that Sun Seal is now more reliable for strike combo heal, and Strike stuns longer. I think 1h physical maces might become dominant in arena.
 
I do wish Sun Seal was a bit better of a skill on its own, we use just to increase banner damage or as combo with shield strike. Never for its actual effect. What's the point of leveling it up?
 
 
 Harad's Banner
Very interesting change, I see it as a buff for sure, the only time where it would be considered a nerf is if you catch only 1-2 people in the banner. When hitting 3+ targets it is actually a big buff. 
Considering we can use shield on ourselves now, it makes total sense that 1v1 damage would be nerfed, even if Illumination and Call damage is reduced, it makes sense with the increase in magic in hammers + banner aoe damage increase, otherwise Paladin's AoE damage will get kinda crazy. so I'll take that.
 
 
 Sacred Shield
 Paladin's Prayer
In my opinion, they are still the best skills for Paladin, unfortunately, this change will not change that. Shield is still not as OP as it used to be that's for sure. But with the lack of other defensive options, Paladins will still continue to run 4/4 shields.
 
What I like about prayer change though, is that it's not as effective as a heal skill anymore, it will be used more as it was intended to be - to initially increase the max hp. This also balances the support abilities of physical damage builds, which imo is a good direction.
 
 
 Inner Forces
 Light Defense
This was their opportunity to provide some variety to Paladin builds, but they failed. Those 2 skills still suck.
I was excited for the balance changes, just to change my skill build and try something new. They gave us this big expectation for this update that it will change a lot. For palas nothing will change...
1-handed palas will still level up shield, prayer and strike
2-handed palas will still level up shield, prayer and banner
Thanks for the new skill icon though, huge change! :)
 
This topic is thought for discussing the upcoming changes in a less clouded topic, what are your thoughts on it? What do you think the future of Paladin holds?
 

For sure craft needs an overhaul, it's very outdated, and the gear there can easily get surpassed by seasonal gear/weapons or arena accessories, oh and especially mermen gear.
Now I do think the current craft gear and materials can stay the same (for mid tier, relatively low cost gear), but I definitely wouldn't mind a way to craft gear with desired stats, even if it was locked behind a separate progression system, where crafters can choose a path and slowly unlock secondary stat slots and certain stats that they can put into their gear.
It's a shame that crafting is very underdeveloped imo, it has a big potential.

So my thoughts:
 
 Fetters of Justice
Whatever, I think it's fine. That being said I feel like that nerf is was thought for PvP so I would have preferred if the damage reduction only applied in PvE and not PvP, since the silence effect is mostly useless in PvE, 10-20% damage reduction for a couple of seconds however can come in handy in PvE, especially against ranged units.
 
 
 Light Aura
I already expressed my thoughts here: 
 
 
To summarize: Around 400% increase in mana cost for the same strength, totally unnecessary nerf, it was already bad enough. Never use it unless you have infinite mana.
 
 
 Heavenly Light
 Illumination
 Harad's Call
 Repellent Strike
 Sun Seal
I'm ok with all these changes, it seems though that we will see more physical damage 1h mace builds. Especially that Sun Seal is now more reliable for strike combo heal, and Strike stuns longer. I think 1h physical maces might become dominant in arena.
 
I do wish Sun Seal was a bit better of a skill on its own, we use just to increase banner damage or as combo with shield strike. Never for its actual effect. What's the point of leveling it up?
 
 
 Harad's Banner
Very interesting change, I see it as a buff for sure, the only time where it would be considered a nerf is if you catch only 1-2 people in the banner. When hitting 3+ targets it is actually a big buff. 
Considering we can use shield on ourselves now, it makes total sense that 1v1 damage would be nerfed, even if Illumination and Call damage is reduced, it makes sense with the increase in magic in hammers + banner aoe damage increase, otherwise Paladin's AoE damage will get kinda crazy. so I'll take that.
 
 
 Sacred Shield
 Paladin's Prayer
In my opinion, they are still the best skills for Paladin, unfortunately, this change will not change that. Shield is still not as OP as it used to be that's for sure. But with the lack of other defensive options, Paladins will still continue to run 4/4 shields.
 
What I like about prayer change though, is that it's not as effective as a heal skill anymore, it will be used more as it was intended to be - to initially increase the max hp. This also balances the support abilities of physical damage builds, which imo is a good direction.
 
 
 Inner Forces
 Light Defense
This was their opportunity to provide some variety to Paladin builds, but they failed. Those 2 skills still suck.
I was excited for the balance changes, just to change my skill build and try something new. They gave us this big expectation for this update that it will change a lot. For palas nothing will change...
1-handed palas will still level up shield, prayer and strike
2-handed palas will still level up shield, prayer and banner
Thanks for the new skill icon though, huge change! :)
 
This topic is thought for discussing the upcoming changes in a less clouded topic, what are your thoughts on it? What do you think the future of Paladin holds?
 

So my thoughts:
 
 Fetters of Justice
Whatever, I think it's fine. That being said I feel like that nerf is was thought for PvP so I would have preferred if the damage reduction only applied in PvE and not PvP, since the silence effect is mostly useless in PvE, 10-20% damage reduction for a couple of seconds however can come in handy in PvE, especially against ranged units.
 
 
 Light Aura
I already expressed my thoughts here: 
 
 
To summarize: Around 400% increase in mana cost for the same strength, totally unnecessary nerf, it was already bad enough. Never use it unless you have infinite mana.
 
 
 Heavenly Light
 Illumination
 Harad's Call
 Repellent Strike
 Sun Seal
I'm ok with all these changes, it seems though that we will see more physical damage 1h mace builds. Especially that Sun Seal is now more reliable for strike combo heal, and Strike stuns longer. I think 1h physical maces might become dominant in arena.
 
I do wish Sun Seal was a bit better of a skill on its own, we use just to increase banner damage or as combo with shield strike. Never for its actual effect. What's the point of leveling it up?
 
 
 Harad's Banner
Very interesting change, I see it as a buff for sure, the only time where it would be considered a nerf is if you catch only 1-2 people in the banner. When hitting 3+ targets it is actually a big buff. 
Considering we can use shield on ourselves now, it makes total sense that 1v1 damage would be nerfed, even if Illumination and Call damage is reduced, it makes sense with the increase in magic in hammers + banner aoe damage increase, otherwise Paladin's AoE damage will get kinda crazy. so I'll take that.
 
 
 Sacred Shield
 Paladin's Prayer
In my opinion, they are still the best skills for Paladin, unfortunately, this change will not change that. Shield is still not as OP as it used to be that's for sure. But with the lack of other defensive options, Paladins will still continue to run 4/4 shields.
 
What I like about prayer change though, is that it's not as effective as a heal skill anymore, it will be used more as it was intended to be - to initially increase the max hp. This also balances the support abilities of physical damage builds, which imo is a good direction.
 
 
 Inner Forces
 Light Defense
This was their opportunity to provide some variety to Paladin builds, but they failed. Those 2 skills still suck.
I was excited for the balance changes, just to change my skill build and try something new. They gave us this big expectation for this update that it will change a lot. For palas nothing will change...
1-handed palas will still level up shield, prayer and strike
2-handed palas will still level up shield, prayer and banner
Thanks for the new skill icon though, huge change! :)
 
This topic is thought for discussing the upcoming changes in a less clouded topic, what are your thoughts on it? What do you think the future of Paladin holds?
 

For sure craft needs an overhaul, it's very outdated, and the gear there can easily get surpassed by seasonal gear/weapons or arena accessories, oh and especially mermen gear.
Now I do think the current craft gear and materials can stay the same (for mid tier, relatively low cost gear), but I definitely wouldn't mind a way to craft gear with desired stats, even if it was locked behind a separate progression system, where crafters can choose a path and slowly unlock secondary stat slots and certain stats that they can put into their gear.
It's a shame that crafting is very underdeveloped imo, it has a big potential.

Even if that relic reduces it by 50%, that's still almost double the amount of current mana cost.
 
And yeah still, that relic will take the place of another pretty important relic, which is the 30% curse removal relic. Even if that relic made it so that it would be the same amount of current mana cost, we would still lose on curse removal. I would still consider it nerfed. Unnecessarily! 

For sure craft needs an overhaul, it's very outdated, and the gear there can easily get surpassed by seasonal gear/weapons or arena accessories, oh and especially mermen gear.
Now I do think the current craft gear and materials can stay the same (for mid tier, relatively low cost gear), but I definitely wouldn't mind a way to craft gear with desired stats, even if it was locked behind a separate progression system, where crafters can choose a path and slowly unlock secondary stat slots and certain stats that they can put into their gear.
It's a shame that crafting is very underdeveloped imo, it has a big potential.

For sure craft needs an overhaul, it's very outdated, and the gear there can easily get surpassed by seasonal gear/weapons or arena accessories, oh and especially mermen gear.
Now I do think the current craft gear and materials can stay the same (for mid tier, relatively low cost gear), but I definitely wouldn't mind a way to craft gear with desired stats, even if it was locked behind a separate progression system, where crafters can choose a path and slowly unlock secondary stat slots and certain stats that they can put into their gear.
It's a shame that crafting is very underdeveloped imo, it has a big potential.

For sure craft needs an overhaul, it's very outdated, and the gear there can easily get surpassed by seasonal gear/weapons or arena accessories, oh and especially mermen gear.
Now I do think the current craft gear and materials can stay the same (for mid tier, relatively low cost gear), but I definitely wouldn't mind a way to craft gear with desired stats, even if it was locked behind a separate progression system, where crafters can choose a path and slowly unlock secondary stat slots and certain stats that they can put into their gear.
It's a shame that crafting is very underdeveloped imo, it has a big potential.

Overall not bad, interesting changes here and there. Will see how it plays out in test.
 
On Paladin:
That extra magic on 2h weapons is nice and all, but with how much damage reduction the skills are getting and the buff on shield strike and sun seal, it seems like you guys are pushing paladins away from using magic and into 1 handed physical damage, which is fine I guess. I just hate to see Paladins dealing very low damage in PvE when that was their selling point as tanks/healers/damagers. But I think it's fair.
 
But what I don't get honestly, why even touch the already underwhelming aura if not with anything positive? I'm not gonna waste my precious mana regen points to get a little heal buff on a prospectively physical damage build. It's not even a big deal I just don't get why, I'll stop using the skill altogether and save the mana.
 
Inner Forces and Light Defense are still very weak. Why not follow the same logic with some of the changes here and make them have a strong effect for a short time instead of a very very weak effect for a long time that doesn't get to end up with any value besides in very long fights, that don't really happen.
 
And you know what, I'm just gonna say it.. The shield nerf.... Ehm... It's... I hate to be the one to say it.. But it's not gonna change much... TBH. I would have been OK with even a 50% HP shield, 25-30 sec CD, but with decent buff for inner forces and light defense. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying that because I care about the game balance but PLEASE I really don't wanna continue playing 4/4 shield with literally no other options, because it will still happen, the meta is not gonna change, people will just switch to physical damage builds with the same skill set.
 
To be fair, it's a pretty good balance patch especially compared with previous attempts. But what the hell were you thinking making Forest Song 100% chance?! It has to be the wildest change I've seen in a very long time..... 

Yes that's right.

I wonder what will be our resultant mana regen when we go naked. Would it go to negative?
Isn't anyone going to talk about this?

27 units?!

Well yeah, at some point we didn't have skills with constant energy consumption, it would be a new thing.

Nerf shield and buff other skills, that's the way to do it. Having 1 skill that define a class is dumb. Sun Seal, Inner Forces, Light Defense are all skills that are supposed to be defensive for Paladin and his teammates yet they all suck. If they're gonna nerf it, they have to buff these skills. Then we can have other options, if Sacred Shield is still usable after the nerf, we could see multiple Paladin builds unlike now.

It's a very ambitious suggestion, but I agree. It would be very helpful if devs were to add that. It will definitely cut the use of books so devs have to be generous with us here.
If it makes it more likely, I would suggest 24hr cooldown to change between the saved setups. Otherwise you have to use a book if it's urgent.