Kyrai 290 Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 (edited) Warspear Online finally reached 20 different classes! Five classes per each of the four existent factions of the game. Each class have their essence inside this game, where you can be Healer, Damage, Tank or including Hybrid classes. Also we look of every MMORPG game, many similar things of the classes depending of their skills or gear building, this is the counterpart the most similar oponent. \\\ Paladin 🆚 Death Knight /// Quote \\\ Paladin Paladins are close combat units, which are focused on fighting on the front lines of battle. They have the ability to subdue their enemies with area skills. They possess knowledge about magical power, using it effectively in their skills for heal their allies or damage their enemies. They can use an arsenal of melee weapons, depending on the player's combat style, and are perfect for adapting to any style of situation. Quote \\\ Death Knight Death Knights are melee combat units, They have abilities of short area damage skills. They possess knowledge about magical power only for damage their enemies. They can use an arsenal of melee weapons, depending on the player's combat style. Priest / Necromancer Mage / Chieftain Seeker / Rogue Templar / Charmer Warden / Barbarian Blade Dancer / Reaper Druid / Shaman Ranger / Hunter Beastmaster / Warlock Categories Semi-Hybrid (SH) Semi-Tank (ST) Semi-Damage (SD) Hybrid I go explain this with time so updates coming soon. Because exist classes with other counterpart classes. Edited October 1, 2022 by Kyrai Makyro, Invorial, Maid and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laevateinn 72 Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 Warlock was compared to mage in the early days of the game but began to be compared to druid or templar due to lower aoe damage than mage. Now the beastmaster has come out and templar's comparison is charmer(according to the post). I think Beastmaster and Warlock are completely different, to be honest. Kyrai, Khrone and Nmac 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khrone 648 Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Laevateinn said: I think Beastmaster and Warlock are completely different, to be honest. Same The truth is we don't have a Sentinel counterpart for the Warlock or a Legion counterpart for the Beastmaster. Here goes a long text explaining why comparing classes doesn't make sense: Spoiler The Beastmaster is a damage dealer that depends on minions, and the only class focused on minions from the Legion is the Charmer. However, the Charmer is not a damage dealer, he is a mix of every role. The only Sentinel class who is also a mix of every role is the Templar, but the gameplay of the Templar is totally different from the Charmer. The Templar was literally made to be a "stun dealer" counterpart of another Legion class: the Warlock. But again: the Warlock is a magical damage dealer (kind of, since it only have 3 useful damage skills), and what is the only true magical damage dealer of the Sentinels? The Mage. Buuut... the Mage has a stronger AoE damage, while the Warlock has a stronger single-target damage. And as we know, the best AoE magical damage dealer from the Legion is the Chieftain. To finish that long text, the difference from the Mage and the Chieftain is the fact that Mage is pure magical damage, while the Chieftain is hybrid (physical + magical). That makes him closer to the Beastmaster, who also deals hybrid damage. So it is basically a loop. Amazing post though! It just made me realize how similar are BD and Reaper icons Edited September 29, 2022 by Khrone Kyrai 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maid 1862 Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 (edited) 7 часов назад, Kyrai сказал: Beastmaster / Warlock Ah yes! OP Beastmaster with manta-healtotem and tons of damage / cringe no-defence-no-heal Warlock. Finally a worth opponent!!! Edited September 29, 2022 by Maid Khrone, Kyrai and TheCaster 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laevateinn 72 Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Khrone said: Here goes a long text explaining why comparing classes doesn't make sense: Hide contents The Beastmaster is a damage dealer that depends on minions, and the only class focused on minions from the Legion is the Charmer. However, the Charmer is not a damage dealer, he is a mix of every role. The only Sentinel class who is also a mix of every role is the Templar, but the gameplay of the Templar is totally different from the Charmer. The Templar was literally made to be a "stun dealer" counterpart of another Legion class: the Warlock. But again: the Warlock is a magical damage dealer (kind of, since it only have 3 useful damage skills), and what is the only true magical damage dealer of the Sentinels? The Mage. Buuut... the Mage has a stronger AoE damage, while the Warlock has a stronger single-target damage. And as we know, the best AoE magical damage dealer from the Legion is the Chieftain. To finish that long text, the difference from the Mage and the Chieftain is the fact that Mage is pure magical damage, while the Chieftain is hybrid (physical + magical). That makes him closer to the Beastmaster, who also deals hybrid damage. So it is basically a loop. I agree with this, but this post is quite interesting. How about do you think about it in many ways like this instead of generalizing it to one thing? Khrone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invorial 91 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 On 9/28/2022 at 10:22 PM, Kyrai said: Paladin / Death Knight Priest / Necromancer Mage / Chieftain Seeker / Rogue Templar / Charmer Warden / Barbarian Blade Dancer / Reaper Druid / Shaman Ranger / Hunter Beastmaster / Warlock This is very nice to understand unbalance of the game, now everthing have sense now. *something ramdom offtopic* Drakoslayd 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladiator 1146 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) I second what Khrone said. It's a little bit more complicated than 1 to 1 parallels between classes. For example a Sentinel team of Paladin + Templar have Warlock-ish controls but also Shaman-ish support traits of a Legion team, but they're also tankier so add a barbarian/DK to balance the tankiness but now the Legion team has more damage and more range, so add a Beastmaster or a Ranger to increase the range damage of the Sentinel team, boom you have a somewhat balanced composition in terms of what each team has to offer. In some cases one side has the upper hand in damage, while the other has tankiness, or one side has the upper hand in control and the other side has resistance and control-counters. In general you will find that some classes have some aspect that their ''counterpart'' doesn't, but you will find that in another class on that side. Like in DK vs Paladin, yea they use the same gear, however their skill sets are completely different. But Paladin + BD vs DK + Shaman is a much better comparison because now you have more balanced control capabilities, support, tankiness, and damage output. Obviously a BD deals alot more damage than a DK, but the same way Shamans deal alot more damage than Paladins while offering somewhat similar support, Paladin is much more tankier than Shaman, but DK is also much more tankier than BD, etc... Another way to look at it is the unique skills that are spread around each side on different classes. Like resistance skills, cleansing, buff removal, stealth. In that sense, Chieftain and Mages are counterparts since they offer the same resistance support and buff removing skills and good AoE damage. But obviously they're not perfect 1 to 1 parallels, because Chieftain also has very high single target burst damage like a Bladedancer, while Mage has more slowburn ranged damage like a Warlock. But each side has pretty much identical or similar skills, if not, then a combination of skills equals another combination, albeit not necessarily on their "counterpart" class. For example Shaman has an AoE heal Totem, that Druid doesn't, but now Beastmastser has a similar skill. Charmers and Beastmasters both have very strong summons, but doesn't make much sense to compare the two classes beyond that because they're otherwise completely different. Edited October 10, 2022 by Gladiator Khrone and Laevateinn 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pooppoppedup 0 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 I'd use templar for counter lock and bm for charmer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lore 318 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 On 9/29/2022 at 4:22 AM, Kyrai said: Semi-Tank (ST) warden is.... a semitank? could you please explain why? On 9/29/2022 at 4:22 AM, Kyrai said: Beastmaster / Warlock On 9/29/2022 at 4:22 AM, Kyrai said: Templar / Charmer ok, in general the concept of classes being counterparts of others is not that much good itself but between all the classes you could pick for warlock to counterpart it... a summoner? for templar is not also much close since, even if they have *1* summon, its not the rounding of their kit wich is a support with huge (and incredibly annoying) crowd controll i do see that you're trying to target the "most similar" in terms of counterpart but i dont see the beastmaster/warlock as even close to eachother? it would've been better to say beaster and charmer since they're both summon oriented classes with one taking value of one immensly strong summon while the other has multiple summons and has more support (heals) capabilities in the party they're in, still making them too different in my eyes for being real counterparts On 9/29/2022 at 4:22 AM, Kyrai said: Priest / Necromancer i think these are the closest to be real counterparts but i would put warlock instead of necro since only 5 player main them in total between the two classes On 9/29/2022 at 4:22 AM, Kyrai said: Semi-Hybrid (SH) ....what do you mean with hybrid in here? On 9/29/2022 at 4:22 AM, Kyrai said: Blade Dancer / Reaper yes, the preview of the reaper itself says it would be an counterpart to the bladedancer but still you cant recreate the broken energy of a bladedancer by using a different recipe On 9/29/2022 at 4:22 AM, Kyrai said: I go explain this with time so updates coming soon. Because exist classes with other counterpart classes be fast, since the post like it is seems to have much sense to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyrai 290 Posted October 19, 2022 Author Share Posted October 19, 2022 3 hours ago, lore said: warden is.... a semitank? could you please explain why? ....what do you mean with hybrid in here? be fast, since the post like it is seems to have much sense to me Im still busy yet, right now not have time for make analysis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maid 1862 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Topic will be updated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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