strygwyr9 0 Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Well since rogues have LONG cooldown skills I have a simple suggestion, Remove Energy expense for Stealth cause rogues really need energy for their Gouge, stealth, Strike combo and makes it easier to re-stealth at crossing when near mobs and impossible to regen energy :wacko: And why is gouge cooldown so high? seriously it's quite stupid since other disable skills have lower cooldowns, atleast decrease it to 15 cooldown. Increase Stealth duration in each level, but not really too much to avoid unli stealth in arena to draw matches. Other Suggestions : Make auto-heal for druid/shaman so you don't have to keep clicking on heal and target Make speed more effective add more costumes ;D Add 2nd floor in Labyrinth :tease: Fix Taunt/Aggression ( stupid skill, only used for taking boss aggro for 2 seconds :facepalm: Unless you rich kid with +8-10 axe :wacko: ) add energy regen to some items. :good: ( you can replace the energy bonus in rings with regen and it will make it easier for low levels at 1st island won't have to buy energy pots & food or crystal :wacko: ) that's all, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odin 1 Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Agree with all. Gouge especially. It's the weakest of the disable skills: Druid root can damage opponents doesn't break. Ranger scatter and trap can damage opponents and doesn't break. Shaman quake and lightning can damage opponents and doesn't break. Barb charge can damage opponents and doesn't break. Bd hammy can damage opponent and doesn't break. Gouge as soon as you damage, it breaks. Even other things than damage can break gouge. :facepalm: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strygwyr9 0 Posted January 22, 2012 Author Share Posted January 22, 2012 Agree with all. Gouge especially. It's the weakest of the disable skills: Druid root can damage opponents doesn't break. Ranger scatter and trap can damage opponents and doesn't break. Shaman quake and lightning can damage opponents and doesn't break. Barb charge can damage opponents and doesn't break. Bd hammy can damage opponent and doesn't break. Gouge as soon as you damage, it breaks. Even other things than damage can break gouge. :facepalm: Plus - It fails alot :facepalm: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odin 1 Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Plus - It fails alot :facepalm: Yeah it does. I think the animation has something to do with it. Seems to fail when I hit to move right after hitting gouge which cuts off the animation for gouge. :facepalm: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish 37 Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Merc dont go full penetration like a pro only for see big numbers when hit a druid with no runes e.e and take some mana regen to use ur skills, kitty lord always at laby using mana pots non stop ;D And mana crystal on armor because agree, attack speed stat now sucks and need a changue.. rogue cloacks useless :facepalm: Oh you can wait for 2nd laby floor, not enough bosses aggro taked and shamans killed 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strygwyr9 0 Posted January 22, 2012 Author Share Posted January 22, 2012 Merc dont go full penetration like a pro only for see big numbers when hit a druid with no runes e.e and take some mana regen to use ur skills, kitty lord always at laby using mana pots non stop ;D And mana crystal on armor because agree, attack speed stat now sucks and need a changue.. rogue cloacks useless :facepalm: Oh you can wait for 2nd laby floor, not enough bosses aggro taked and shamans killed 8) what full penetration? ;D It just that swords & daggers are the only weapons without penetration, and I don't really care cause I hit 1001! on bosses with +5 & +4 weapons while others hit 900+ ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer snorlax 658 Posted January 23, 2012 Developer Share Posted January 23, 2012 I've got pretty good suggestion - if someone will collect all significant suggestions in one post (class or global ones) and send it to the support, will be very nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryuken 0 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 and stupid things when failed gouging, rogue lost target Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odin 1 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 I've got pretty good suggestion - if someone will collect all significant suggestions in one post (class or global ones) and send it to the support, will be very nice. I'm happy to do this, and I appreciative your responses here to our community. I'll start some polls to see what people want addressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strygwyr9 0 Posted January 23, 2012 Author Share Posted January 23, 2012 I've got pretty good suggestion - if someone will collect all significant suggestions in one post (class or global ones) and send it to the support, will be very nice. This would be good, maybe then devs actually listen to our suggestion, Odin you gonna do this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odin 1 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Yah i just start a poll. I just want to see what's most important to people first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundead 0 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 There is nothing wrong with gouge..it serves its purpose of allowing us to stealth in mid combat, which is super effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strygwyr9 0 Posted January 23, 2012 Author Share Posted January 23, 2012 There is nothing wrong with gouge..it serves its purpose of allowing us to stealth in mid combat, which is super effective. no that's not the problem, the problem is cooldown - too long, other disables got faster CD and It fails allot for some reason even when you gouge while stealth and didn't attack they still move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundead 0 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 I've never had it miss :shok: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strygwyr9 0 Posted January 23, 2012 Author Share Posted January 23, 2012 I've never had it miss :shok: how long have you played rogue? keep using gouge on random mobs, sometimes it fails - usually on labyrinth mobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay 2 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 how long have you played rogue? keep using gouge on random mobs, sometimes it fails - usually on labyrinth mobs You only fail use skill on mob if the mob in evade status Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakray777 0 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 You only fail use skill on mob if the mob in evade status fail sometimes at arena tho,,, is player have evade state? :wacko: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay 2 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 fail sometimes at arena tho,,, is player have evade state? :wacko: In arena I saw fail because its dodged. We talked about mob, and you talk about other ppl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drinsky 0 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 how long have you played rogue? keep using gouge on random mobs, sometimes it fails - usually on labyrinth mobs totally agree! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercurial 3 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 You only fail use skill on mob if the mob in evade status nope, it fails alot, not cuz of evade but it just fails as in you use it but they don't get stunned, no purple smoke either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WARLUNATIC 2 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 You only fail use skill on mob if the mob in evade status gouge fails alot actualy :facepalm: not because of evade and also on both players and mobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakray777 0 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 In arena I saw fail because its dodged. We talked about mob, and you talk about other ppl lol the point here is not about mob or ppl but bout skill, 'gouge is sometimes fail and it should not' it obvious theres somekind of bug about meele skill,,i heard sometimes bds hamstring failed too,,but not sure, i not tried it a lot,, n i think i never saw other disable skills like druid root/ shaman blind that casted from range failed/dodged,,,(not talkin bout evade state),, ranged already got their advantage,,why must meele skill not work as it should? :facepalm: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercurial 3 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 lol the point here is not about mob or ppl but bout skill, 'gouge is sometimes fail and it should not' it obvious theres somekind of bug about meele skill,,i heard sometimes bds hamstring failed too,,but not sure, i not tried it a lot,, n i think i never saw other disable skills like druid root/ shaman blind that casted from range failed/dodged,,,(not talkin bout evade state),, ranged already got their advantage,,why must meele skill not work as it should? :facepalm: well reason for BD hamstring fail is either dodge, parry, or block but it doesn't say that when gouge fails, so there must be a problem :wacko: just fail 2 times at Leopard Murderer :facepalm: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay 2 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 I've got pretty good suggestion - if someone will collect all significant suggestions in one post (class or global ones) and send it to the support, will be very nice. Its not a good suggestion. Its skill to disable enemy, if cant be broken, it would be overpowered. Gouged enemy cant take action and you will make it cant be broken if take damage, omg. I agree with this suggestion but reduce the time limitation a lot. Because rogue can spam invisible, gouge, attack and make enemy cant do anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercurial 3 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Gouged enemy cant take action and you will make it cant be broken if take damage, omg. we don't want that, we just wanna be able to beat, barbs, rangers, bds and healers, right now all I can kill is lvl 13-15 noobs and die from strong people, thats why I hunt elves in a party and it's 100% bullshit :facepalm: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay 2 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 we don't want that, we just wanna be able to beat, barbs, rangers, bds and healers, right now all I can kill is lvl 13-15 noobs and die from strong people, thats why I hunt elves in a party and it's 100% bullshit :facepalm: Then its not about the Rogue's skill my friend. Its more like you want to kill your enemy but they amped better than you. Yea its 100% bullshit, and I feel the same way when killed by richer ppl and cant fight back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercurial 3 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Then its not about the Rogue's skill my friend. Its more like you want to kill your enemy but they amped better than you. Yea its 100% bullshit, and I feel the same way when killed by richer ppl and cant fight back. hmm, well rogue and BD seems to be the weakest classes atm, charge is good, so is invi but we not tanks so if we get scattered,trapped,rooted,hamstringed & etc. then we finished the only thing we can hope is that the enemy has 1500 life and we stealth crit him + normal crit after :wacko: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulla 127 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 hmm, well rogue and BD seems to be the weakest classes atm, charge is good, so is invi but we not tanks so if we get scattered,trapped,rooted,hamstringed & etc. then we finished the only thing we can hope is that the enemy has 1500 life and we stealth crit him + normal crit after :wacko: and stil after our crits, the druid / shaman can root / blind run to full health. thats how freakishly OP they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay 2 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 hmm, well rogue and BD seems to be the weakest classes atm, charge is good, so is invi but we not tanks so if we get scattered,trapped,rooted,hamstringed & etc. then we finished the only thing we can hope is that the enemy has 1500 life and we stealth crit him + normal crit after :wacko: Yup agree with this. BD and Rogue if we not count the luck crit hit, they have small chance to fight barb and mage class. Rogue can still hide tho, but BD can only close their eyes and accept the death with courage ;D Let me tell you about story when fight in the arena me (L18) & L16 BD vs two L15 Barbers (no armor) and 2 BD lost because stunned & chop. Our gears +5 at least and I dont know what theirs since we cant touch them. The only way we can win is one of them dc ;D Otherwise they really tough to beat although only L15 :facepalm: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay 2 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 and stil after our crits, the druid / shaman can root / blind run to full health. thats how freakishly OP they are. That's why all melee class need to be adjusted or tweaked with natural magic resistance or a special skill to increase their resistance and can deflect arrows this is how to make melee class can move closer to range class by walking or make charge available to all melee class. And Should be a special class for healer not a pure damager mage can heal Healer type should be Cleric/Monk/Paladin. They force add the healing skill to pure damage class which is make the game unbalance for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfdragon99 28 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I've got pretty good suggestion - if someone will collect all significant suggestions in one post (class or global ones) and send it to the support, will be very nice. This is a quote from a developer from early in post so don't knock the suggestion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odin 1 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 You only fail use skill on mob if the mob in evade status False Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odin 1 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I agree with this suggestion but reduce the time limitation a lot. Because rogue can spam invisible, gouge, attack and make enemy cant do anything. Also false. Cant spam that. It's dependant on stealth reuse which means once per fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercurial 3 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 \Cooldown is 20+ seconds, how the duck can we spam :wacko: :wacko: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odin 1 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 That's why all melee class need to be adjusted or tweaked with natural magic resistance or a special skill to increase their resistance and can deflect arrows this is how to make melee class can move closer to range class by walking or make charge available to all melee class Healer type should be Cleric/Monk/Paladin. They force add the healing skill to pure damage class which is make the game unbalance for a long time. Kind of agree. Add some basic advantages to melee. Remove stagger from range attacks. Change skills like hammy gouge to ranged. Disagree that there should be a healer class. No one likes playing a class that cant kill anything. Druids and shamans are fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay 2 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 \Cooldown is 20+ seconds, how the duck can we spam :wacko: :wacko: spam means use repeatly the skills combo. invisible - gouge (cant break) - attack enemy - invisible again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odin 1 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 spam means use repeatly the skills combo. invisible - gouge (cant break) - attack enemy - invisible again Gouge duration is not 20 seconds lmao. It ends before invisible again. Hence no repeated use. Hence can't spam it. Maybe you meant that with bad suggestion not sure. Just wanted to be clear. :rofl: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay 2 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Gouge duration is not 20 seconds lmao. It ends before invisible again. Hence no repeated use. Hence can't spam it. Maybe you meant that with bad suggestion not sure. Just wanted to be clear. :rofl: every suggestion that make a class can do attacks without retaliated is bad suggestion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odin 1 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 every suggestion that make a class can do attacks without retaliated is bad suggestion. Lol@u! By your reasoning bd hammy should go bc other class cant use skills, ranger scatter too. Oh yeah shaman scatter, barb charge, and druid root as well. All those skills allow their class attacks without retaliation. :wacko: Brilliant deduction Watson but leave the mysterious and game mechanics to Holmes. :crazy: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercurial 3 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 spam means use repeatly the skills combo. invisible - gouge (cant break) - attack enemy - invisible again I have suggestion for you ---------> TRY PLAY ROGUE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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