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This concept looks really nice! 100 points for originality. So it'll be something like that constant damage debuff you get when you enter the opposite alliance territory in map 4, t3 and t4 but on much a smaller scale.

Well, being the only aoe Damage ( oops debuff**) skill a warlock has, don't have a point of reference to compare it with. Maybe do a comparison just for discussion purposes with mage skills like teleport and shards to compare and contrast their damage? Would give us an idea on where the damage of the one and only aoe dd skill a lock has, stands at. Any mages here would like to pitch in?

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Have to admit, Kinda disappointed after reading this thread. Expected a bit more transparency at the end of the discussion instead of the abrupt hammer down. Thank you for answering anyway. @Jcbreff !

Have you calculated these values on dummy? and at different skill levels and different mdmgs? Because I ran a test on my lock after seeing this post and these values don't match. There are a few deviations, I haven't tried at different skill levels yet though. Only at 1/5.

Why this condition specifically?

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Well, I feel it's because the game content is constantly evolving (kudos to the devs💙) but the some of the class skill improvements are not sufficient to catch up to the game such as this one or balance it. An accuracy boost on instincts or an accuracy cut on hunters mark rework would attract people to invest more into this class. I have a level 31 speed pve hunter and personally speaking I'd rather make another class from scratch for pvp.

Welcome mate! Depends on how you'd like to play, Tanker, healer or damagers? Also What're you interested in? Pve pvp?

How about an accuracy reduction factor introduced along with the def reduction of the hunter's mark. It's a debuff skill to begin with so it seems appropriate. Again, a very minor change that doesn't really affect pvp scenario much.

So basically like a sub class or job that you can choose that gives you new passives as well as skills. Would open up entirely new possibilities of playstyle. I'd definitely pay money to see that.

Crit is kinda useless in pvp. If you have a decent amount of resi, crit never works. So moot point. 😔

Yeah, increase hit frequency or base damage increase, both sounds good. There have already been a lot of calls to make this a pure dd skill in almost every forum. It can resisted. It counts as a debuff skill. Increasing its potency sounds good. And for the love of God, no more combos. Lol, can't ask for everything now, can we? I'd still prioritize for survivability and aoe dmg increase skill reworks over more control for lock. Only defensive skill a lock has. I see why everyone is plying to get some changes here lol. There are not many other options for lock. @Khrone Which server do you play in btw?

Sphere already has a combo with relaxation, it would be difficult to use so many combos effectively in battle, don't you think? How making life exhaust aoe btw? And increase its potency like those bats in st normal and stackable ? (Exhaust cd would have to be reduced for this to work effectively) Those bats have only 3k hp ish but hard to kill them sometimes because their exhaust stacks, much more powerful than lock exhaust at 5/5 and they have a very good amount of dodge. (lock doesn't dodge obviously) And Dark seal can be made a passive debuff, that applies to all enemies in combat with the warlock every certain number of attacks or once every 10s or so? Works on unlimited numbers in pve but 2-5 players max from 1/4 to 4/4 in pvp scenarios maybe?

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Won't all healers fall into the ranged category too? Technically they are also a ranged class. I think ranged and melee would be a sepearte division altogether from Tanks, healers and damagers?

I'm not entirely sure about paladin. About warlock, I would say a decent 15 + accuracy should be enough; since they don't have any skills that increase attack speed like mages. The maximum attack speed you would see on a lock would be the guild passive level 10 ( +15% attack speed ). Well to be honest, lock doesn't have many damage skills to use to miss. It's supposed to a debuffer according to the descriptions. Arrow & sphere are the only damage skills it has that can miss. Life exhaust can be both missed and resisted.

Direct + & - I think. Accuracy required depends on your attack speed and the class you play. For example, a speed hunter needs at least 30 accuracy in my opinion to not keep missing attacks. The more attack speed you have, the more accu you'll need to ensure a hit in pve.

Nope, very different things. The base defense of a cloth armor class is low in itself so even if you provide % amplifiers there it won't make a tangible difference in the case of warlocks. You also have to take into account the enemy's pene stat in this case and fero if in the case of players. So the damage reduction will be low when compared to an actual skill that provides damage reduction in most cases. Damage reduction works independently. Let's say you're supposed to receive 1000 damage from someone, If you have 80% damage reduction you receive only 200 damage regardless of any other stats like pene, resi, fero etc. As opposed to a mage skill that can ignore any damage regardless of the number every alternate attack whether its 1000 or 10,000, you need to come up with a stronger suggestion @Khrone. xD Don't hold back.

I think you have defense and damage reduction confused. @Khrone

Thank you for this. I was honestly wondering why this issue hadn't come up yet. As all other damage classes progress along the game, I think it's necessary to make sufficient improvements too to this class too and you have made the comparisons clean and neat. Kudos. Honestly this is mainly a pve suggestion and one I wish to see implemented. It takes enormous pain to bring up a hunter which only has one build (speed) and it pains me to see people stop playing it because a normal player without financial support cannot develop a speed hunter without enormous resources and level 10 and 11 guild passive buffs. It's a class that's out of reach to the average player. I'm currently working on a detailed video analysis of the new Hunter trap test and it's practicality and usefulness in different scenarios. Please Stay tuned.

I think that's the point of discussion here @ Bludnuy, As an advertised magic debuffer, neither is the class able to out damage or come close to the damage of similarly amped damage chars like mage nor does it provide the versatility required otherwise since majority of its skills goes into resist and dies faster than a soggy paper. I really appreciate your passion for the class, cause in my opinion its the hardest class to play in warspear. But I think even you have to agree with the main topic of this thread. They need some upgrades in both defensive and a few offensive capabilities. I don't support some of the skill options the author provided but I agree with his general idea of the thread.