masamune 0 Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 Hello guys blade dancer and rogue able to use two different type of weapon with different attack speed. I have some question about them.. 1. What if i am equip sword and knife at same time? did my attack speed become faster than equip sword on both hand or just same? 2. Which one will do more dps? A. Sword at both hand B. Knife at both hand C. Knife at right hand and sword at left D. Sword at right hand and knife at left :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay 2 Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 dps is similar, but different speed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doobienights 0 Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 first here are some stats: testedbacksword: 111 attack power acute broadsword: 104 attack power acute knife: 88 attackpower speed of sword: 2secs speed of dagger: 1.7 secs A. Sword on both hands tested backsword and acute broadsword total attack power: 221 speed bonus: 12.3% ATTACKSPEED:((2000-123)+(2000-123))/1.34 = 2801 or 2.8s attackspeed DPS: 221/2.8 = 78.93 damage per second B. Sword on right dagger on left tested backsword and acute knife total attack power: 212 speed bonus: 10.5% ATTACKSPEED:((2000-105)+(1700-105))/1.34 = 2604 or 2.6s attackspeed DPS: 212/2.6 = 81.54 damage per second C. Sword on left dagger on right tested backsword and acute knife total attack power: 191 speed bonus: 10.5% ATTACKSPEED:((2000-105)+(1700-105))/1.34 = 2604 or 2.6s attackspeed DPS: 191/2.6 = 73.46 damage per second D. 2 daggers acute knife and acute knife total attack power: 173 speed bonus: 10.5% ATTACKSPEED:((1700-105)+(1700-105))/1.34 = 2380 or 2.38s attackspeed DPS: 173/2.38 = 72.69 damage per second Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legionn 88 Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 Hello guys blade dancer and rogue able to use two different type of weapon with different attack speed. I have some question about them.. 1. What if i am equip sword and knife at same time? did my attack speed become faster than equip sword on both hand or just same? 2. Which one will do more dps? A. Sword at both hand B. Knife at both hand C. Knife at right hand and sword at left D. Sword at right hand and knife at left :) I use A. But I think the others are disame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay 2 Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 @auger, How you get the 1.34 factor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanhelsing 1 Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 @auger, How you get the 1.34 factor? This is the formula Mioco posted here http://forum.warspear-online.com/index.php?topic=503.msg50616#msg50616 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coin 0 Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 :mega_shok: Howd you get 221 total attack power with tested backsword and acute broadsword? I used both but only 184. Any idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legionn 88 Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 :mega_shok: Howd you get 221 total attack power with tested backsword and acute broadsword? I used both but only 184. Any idea? I hit 221 too I think its a bug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiLTi 0 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 hi! im noob! is it always a good idea to have a sword and a knife equiped? instead of 2 knifes or 2 swords? tnxs! gr LiLTi BD :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcin 7 Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Here are some calculations for arena weapons. Take in consider they are based on mine attack speed stats. Sword + Dagger (speed bonus 13%) ((2000-130)+(1700-130))/1,34 = 2,567s 248/2,567 = 96,61dps Sword + Sword (speed bonus 10,7%): ((2000-107)+(2000-107))/1,34 = 2,825s 260/2,825 = 92,03dps Dagger + Dagger (speed bonus 15,2%): ((1700-152)+(1700-152))/1,34 = 2,31s 224/2,31 = 96,96dps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kaworu 0 Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 These are popular sword and dagger combinations. I used base attack values for each, speed% bonus is of my set. It is all very close. gladius of abyss zealots and well tried blade at 17.5% 2000-175 + 2000-175 3650/1.34 2723.88 1 swing every 2.72s 22.05 swings every minute 22 swings x gladius(143)+wtb(135/2) 4631 dmg/min 77.18 dps well tried blade and acute rondel at 19.7% 2000-197 + 1700-197 3306/1.34 2467.16 1 swing every 2.46s 24.39 swings every minute 24 swings x wtb(135)+rondel(115/2) 4620 dmg/min 77 dps gladius of abyss zealots and gladius of abyss zealots at 15.3% 2000-153 + 2000-153 3694/1.34 2756.71 1 swing every 2.75s 21.81 swings every minute 21 swings x gladius(143)+gladius(143/2) 4504.5 dmg/min 75.07 dps acute rondel and acute rondel at 19.7% 1700-197 + 1700-197 3006/1.34 2243.28 1 swing every 2.24s 26.78 swings every minute 26 swings x rondel(115)+rondel(115/2) 4485 dmg/min 74.75 dps well tried blade and well tried blade at 19.7% 2000-197 + 2000-197 3606/1.34 2691.04 1 swing every 2.69s 22.30 swings every minute 22 swings x wtb(135)+wtb(135/2) 4455 dmg/min 74.25 dps gladius of abyss zealots and acute flamberge at 15.3% 2000-153 + 2000-153 3694/1.34 2756.71 1 swing every 2.75s 21.81 swings every minute 21 swings x gladius(143)+flamberge(135/2) 4420 dmg/min 73.67 dps acute flamberge and acute flamberge at 15.3% 2000-153 + 2000-153 3694/1.34 2756.71 1 swing every 2.75s 21.81 swings every minute 21 swings x flamberge(135)+flamberge(135/2) 4252 dmg/min 70.87 dps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legionn 88 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 These are popular sword and dagger combinations. I used base attack values for each, speed% bonus is of my set. It is all very close. gladius of abyss zealots and well tried blade at 17.5% 2000-175 + 2000-175 3650/1.34 2723.88 1 swing every 2.72s 22.05 swings every minute 22 swings x gladius(143)+wtb(135/2) 4631 dmg/min 77.18 dps well tried blade and acute rondel at 19.7% 2000-197 + 1700-197 3306/1.34 2467.16 1 swing every 2.46s 24.39 swings every minute 24 swings x wtb(135)+rondel(115/2) 4620 dmg/min 77 dps gladius of abyss zealots and gladius of abyss zealots at 15.3% 2000-153 + 2000-153 3694/1.34 2756.71 1 swing every 2.75s 21.81 swings every minute 21 swings x gladius(143)+gladius(143/2) 4504.5 dmg/min 75.07 dps acute rondel and acute rondel at 19.7% 1700-197 + 1700-197 3006/1.34 2243.28 1 swing every 2.24s 26.78 swings every minute 26 swings x rondel(115)+rondel(115/2) 4485 dmg/min 74.75 dps well tried blade and well tried blade at 19.7% 2000-197 + 2000-197 3606/1.34 2691.04 1 swing every 2.69s 22.30 swings every minute 22 swings x wtb(135)+wtb(135/2) 4455 dmg/min 74.25 dps gladius of abyss zealots and acute flamberge at 15.3% 2000-153 + 2000-153 3694/1.34 2756.71 1 swing every 2.75s 21.81 swings every minute 21 swings x gladius(143)+flamberge(135/2) 4420 dmg/min 73.67 dps acute flamberge and acute flamberge at 15.3% 2000-153 + 2000-153 3694/1.34 2756.71 1 swing every 2.75s 21.81 swings every minute 21 swings x flamberge(135)+flamberge(135/2) 4252 dmg/min 70.87 dps You forget a really important thing which is about critical hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaworu 0 Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 These loose calculations only show for swing speed and don't account for the change in crit or accuracy. At most the difference in crit% between any one of those combos is 4.4% and that only applies to dual or mix gladius and wtb. It all comes down to individual player preference whether 2.2%crit > 2.2%speed. Tweak your builds accordingly ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alyanorno 0 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 does using daggers or swords affect skill speed? as in.. does ham work faster with 2 daggers? cause freakin ham takes tooooo long n sometimes ur running n its instantly hams, i dunno why,other times its just stops in front of ur oponent n does nothing then u get earthquaked or stuned again.. no even talking about the times i used ham when oponent runing from me.. hes on the square next to me and i chase him the whole map and no hamstring (for a 2 square range skill thats BS) other times i get earthquaked, shaman runs and get hamed like 3/4 squares away, ridiculously bugged skill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skadii 0 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 does using daggers or swords affect skill speed? as in.. does ham work faster with 2 daggers? cause freakin ham takes tooooo long n sometimes ur running n its instantly hams, i dunno why,other times its just stops in front of ur oponent n does nothing then u get earthquaked or stuned again.. no even talking about the times i used ham when oponent runing from me.. hes on the square next to me and i chase him the whole map and no hamstring (for a 2 square range skill thats BS) other times i get earthquaked, shaman runs and get hamed like 3/4 squares away, ridiculously bugged skill it depends on your last swing time, unlike Flash Strike, it won't be instant, it's like reloading a gun after fired, while you run it reloads, so when you wanna shoot again it's instant then need to reload again.and other problem, bugged position, everyone with aoe skills hates this. Caused by stagger or the way you walk and which direction, I tested running around MC Caravan while I was waiting for someone to come from swamps, boar hitted me 7 steps away, means running in a 5 yard wide/lenth circle can bug your position too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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