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Hello guys blade dancer and rogue able to use two different type of weapon with different attack speed. I have some question about them..

 

1. What if i am equip sword and knife at same time?  did my attack speed become faster than equip sword on both hand or just same?

 

2. Which one will do more dps?

A. Sword at both hand

B. Knife at both hand

C. Knife at right hand and sword at left

D. Sword at right hand and knife at left

 

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first here are some stats:

testedbacksword: 111 attack power

acute broadsword: 104 attack power

acute knife: 88 attackpower

speed of sword: 2secs

speed of dagger: 1.7 secs

 

 

 

A. Sword on both hands

 

 

tested backsword and acute broadsword

total attack power: 221

speed bonus: 12.3%

 

 

ATTACKSPEED:((2000-123)+(2000-123))/1.34 = 2801 or 2.8s attackspeed

DPS: 221/2.8 = 78.93 damage per second

 

 

B. Sword on right dagger on left

 

 

tested backsword and acute knife

total attack power: 212

speed bonus: 10.5%

 

 

ATTACKSPEED:((2000-105)+(1700-105))/1.34 = 2604 or 2.6s attackspeed

DPS: 212/2.6 = 81.54 damage per second

 

 

C. Sword on left dagger on right

 

 

tested backsword and acute knife

total attack power: 191

speed bonus: 10.5%

 

 

ATTACKSPEED:((2000-105)+(1700-105))/1.34 = 2604 or 2.6s attackspeed

DPS: 191/2.6 = 73.46 damage per second

 

 

D. 2 daggers

 

 

acute knife and acute knife

total attack power: 173

speed bonus: 10.5%

 

 

ATTACKSPEED:((1700-105)+(1700-105))/1.34 = 2380 or 2.38s attackspeed

DPS: 173/2.38 = 72.69 damage per second

 

 

 

 

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Hello guys blade dancer and rogue able to use two different type of weapon with different attack speed. I have some question about them..

 

1. What if i am equip sword and knife at same time?  did my attack speed become faster than equip sword on both hand or just same?

 

2. Which one will do more dps?

A. Sword at both hand

B. Knife at both hand

C. Knife at right hand and sword at left

D. Sword at right hand and knife at left

 

:)

 

I use A. But I think the others are disame.

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  • 2 weeks later...

:mega_shok: Howd you get 221 total attack power with tested backsword and acute broadsword? I used both but only 184. Any idea?

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:mega_shok: Howd you get 221 total attack power with tested backsword and acute broadsword? I used both but only 184. Any idea?

 

I hit 221 too I think its a bug.

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  • 1 month later...

hi!

 

im noob!

 

is it always a good idea to have a sword and a knife equiped?

 

instead of 2 knifes or 2 swords?

 

 

tnxs!

 

gr LiLTi BD :D

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  • 4 weeks later...

Here are some calculations for arena weapons. Take in consider they are based on mine attack speed stats.

 

Sword + Dagger (speed bonus 13%)

((2000-130)+(1700-130))/1,34 = 2,567s

248/2,567 = 96,61dps

 

Sword + Sword (speed bonus 10,7%):

((2000-107)+(2000-107))/1,34 = 2,825s

260/2,825 = 92,03dps

 

Dagger + Dagger (speed bonus 15,2%):

((1700-152)+(1700-152))/1,34 = 2,31s

224/2,31 = 96,96dps

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These are popular sword and dagger combinations. I used base attack values for each, speed% bonus is of my set.

 

It is all very close.

 

  gladius of abyss zealots and well tried blade at 17.5%

2000-175 + 2000-175

3650/1.34

2723.88

1 swing every 2.72s

22.05 swings every minute

22 swings x gladius(143)+wtb(135/2)

4631 dmg/min

77.18 dps

 

 

  well tried blade and acute rondel at 19.7%

2000-197 + 1700-197

3306/1.34

2467.16

1 swing every 2.46s

24.39 swings every minute

24 swings x wtb(135)+rondel(115/2)

4620 dmg/min

77 dps

 

 

  gladius of abyss zealots and gladius of abyss zealots at 15.3%

2000-153 + 2000-153

3694/1.34

2756.71

1 swing every 2.75s

21.81 swings every minute

21 swings x gladius(143)+gladius(143/2)

4504.5 dmg/min

75.07 dps

 

 

  acute rondel and acute rondel at 19.7%

1700-197 + 1700-197

3006/1.34

2243.28

1 swing every 2.24s

26.78 swings every minute

26 swings x rondel(115)+rondel(115/2)

4485 dmg/min

74.75 dps

 

 

  well tried blade and well tried blade at 19.7%

2000-197 + 2000-197

3606/1.34 

2691.04

1 swing every 2.69s

22.30 swings every minute

22 swings x wtb(135)+wtb(135/2)

4455 dmg/min

74.25 dps

 

 

  gladius of abyss zealots and acute flamberge at 15.3%

2000-153 + 2000-153

3694/1.34

2756.71

1 swing every 2.75s

21.81 swings every minute

21 swings x gladius(143)+flamberge(135/2)

4420 dmg/min

73.67 dps

 

 

  acute flamberge and acute flamberge at 15.3%

2000-153 + 2000-153

3694/1.34

2756.71

1 swing every 2.75s

21.81 swings every minute

21 swings x flamberge(135)+flamberge(135/2)

4252 dmg/min

70.87 dps

 

 

 

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These are popular sword and dagger combinations. I used base attack values for each, speed% bonus is of my set.

 

It is all very close.

 

  gladius of abyss zealots and well tried blade at 17.5%

2000-175 + 2000-175

3650/1.34

2723.88

1 swing every 2.72s

22.05 swings every minute

22 swings x gladius(143)+wtb(135/2)

4631 dmg/min

77.18 dps

 

 

  well tried blade and acute rondel at 19.7%

2000-197 + 1700-197

3306/1.34

2467.16

1 swing every 2.46s

24.39 swings every minute

24 swings x wtb(135)+rondel(115/2)

4620 dmg/min

77 dps

 

 

  gladius of abyss zealots and gladius of abyss zealots at 15.3%

2000-153 + 2000-153

3694/1.34

2756.71

1 swing every 2.75s

21.81 swings every minute

21 swings x gladius(143)+gladius(143/2)

4504.5 dmg/min

75.07 dps

 

 

  acute rondel and acute rondel at 19.7%

1700-197 + 1700-197

3006/1.34

2243.28

1 swing every 2.24s

26.78 swings every minute

26 swings x rondel(115)+rondel(115/2)

4485 dmg/min

74.75 dps

 

 

  well tried blade and well tried blade at 19.7%

2000-197 + 2000-197

3606/1.34 

2691.04

1 swing every 2.69s

22.30 swings every minute

22 swings x wtb(135)+wtb(135/2)

4455 dmg/min

74.25 dps

 

 

  gladius of abyss zealots and acute flamberge at 15.3%

2000-153 + 2000-153

3694/1.34

2756.71

1 swing every 2.75s

21.81 swings every minute

21 swings x gladius(143)+flamberge(135/2)

4420 dmg/min

73.67 dps

 

 

  acute flamberge and acute flamberge at 15.3%

2000-153 + 2000-153

3694/1.34

2756.71

1 swing every 2.75s

21.81 swings every minute

21 swings x flamberge(135)+flamberge(135/2)

4252 dmg/min

70.87 dps

 

 

You forget a really important thing which is about critical hit.

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These loose calculations only show for swing speed and don't account for the change in crit or accuracy.

 

At most the difference in crit% between any one of those combos is 4.4% and that only applies to dual or mix gladius and wtb. It all comes down to individual player preference whether 2.2%crit > 2.2%speed. Tweak your builds accordingly ;)

 

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does using daggers or swords affect skill speed? as in.. does ham work faster with 2 daggers? cause freakin ham takes tooooo long n sometimes ur running n its instantly hams, i dunno why,other times its just stops in front of ur oponent n does nothing then u get earthquaked or stuned again.. no even talking about the times i used ham when oponent runing from me.. hes on the square next to me and i chase him the whole map and no hamstring (for a 2 square range skill thats BS) other times i get earthquaked, shaman runs and get hamed like 3/4 squares away, ridiculously bugged skill

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does using daggers or swords affect skill speed? as in.. does ham work faster with 2 daggers? cause freakin ham takes tooooo long n sometimes ur running n its instantly hams, i dunno why,other times its just stops in front of ur oponent n does nothing then u get earthquaked or stuned again.. no even talking about the times i used ham when oponent runing from me.. hes on the square next to me and i chase him the whole map and no hamstring (for a 2 square range skill thats BS) other times i get earthquaked, shaman runs and get hamed like 3/4 squares away, ridiculously bugged skill

 

it depends on your last swing time, unlike Flash Strike, it won't be instant, it's like reloading a gun after fired, while you run it reloads, so when you wanna shoot again it's instant then need to reload again.

and other problem, bugged position, everyone with aoe skills hates this.

Caused by stagger or the way you walk and which direction, I tested running around MC Caravan while I was waiting for someone to come from swamps, boar hitted me 7 steps away, means running in a 5 yard wide/lenth circle can bug your position too.

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