Takke

:facepalm: Yes barb is balanced, the problem lies in the fact to get the same dot paladins have to sacrifice base line dps which is one area they already fall behind barbs and blade dancers, so it just gets worse. Then you have to look at base hp where paladins are lower, health regen base which paladins are also lower. Combine all this with the fact barbs and blade dancers have outstanding dmg reduction abilities, which prevent more dmg than a paladin could ever hope to heal in the same amount of time. All this says paladins need alittle work. I've got the lvl 19 barb to compare in game performance the other tanks have an advantage period.

But there is a misconception here. Astral wasn't fixed as in your toons astral = foj dot dmg, its a percentage of your total. What has paladin users piturbed is how lousy the dot is. Even with the best paladin astral gear in game (doom mace + crystal, rings, cloak) the rank 5 foj dot on my paly is right about the same as my lvl 19 barbs rank 5 chop. And to get it even there right off the top I lost base weapon dmg using the astral crystal, which in turn then makes the axe not only faster but doing more dmg, with penetration bonuses. I do agree with the statement paladins are useful in group pvp, I will give you that.

Slower attack times and decrease in dmg is a nerf there smart guy. But in regards to your post your right paladins can do all those things. The problem lies in the fact that while the idea is sound they cannot do all those things at once or well, in pvp there isn't enough time nor do they have enough energy points if they did. If they specialize in heal they cannot dps enough to drop the other tank classes, if they go for dmg they cannot match the survivability of the other tank classes.

Imho two handed ax is much better than the hammer, but mace is much better than hatchet as long as astral is on it.

Obviously youve not played a high lvl paladin yet. Barbs and blade dancers out dps, out tank paladins period. Thats including heal and aura into the survivability factor. We are out matched. And while we don't use skill points for our dot we do have to use up crystal slots on gear to get the dmg even close to a barb or blade dancers dot. Then take into consideration while all you have to do is click a button once, we have to save our purification strike until we have foj active on target , which is nt always accurate, then get a puny dot.

Before the last big update paladins felt very viable in pvp. Now however, even max lvl top gear, it feels like I'm playing a barbarian back in the .7 days, and those that remember it wasn't much fun. The idea and intent of the paladin class is great but its lost its teeth please do something to help em out.

If it goes by total astral ,then why is my foj dmg only ticking at 97 when my astral total from gear is 167?

Slowing mace attack time didn't exactly help paladins out either. Apparently devs thought paladins needed the nerf hammer, can't say I agree.

then I guess a good time was had by all!

sorry had to pop in on this one but you yourself just wasted a couple revives, but I will say you made one hell of a run for it.

Same here but I'm chosen side of the fence 18lvl paly.

Also went on to say there will be no new items introduced, meaning that the only lvl 18 items which are lab weapons and armor will be attainable by quest reward. I think half a dozen other posts already clarified that.

Problem is only a select few were getting the rare 18lvl item drops then either sat on them or auctioned them for ridiculous amounts of gold or mcoins, and the commons weren't able to get their hands on them to spend mcoins to enchant or amplify which is probably the largest group of players paying aigrinds bills. So now everyone gets them everyone can go back to spending money on mcoins again.

I actually grin allittle when I see necros as my opponent in the arena.

Honestly straying away from mace and shield for any twothander seems impractical. Paladins imho are more of the weather the storm type. Meaning use your astral and heal to out survive your opponent. Not saying a paly can't lay out the dps, but if you want a dps class roll a ranger.

Trying to get forum post count up maybe?

Now it'll either drop lab farming to next to nothing or move it to the new area if the quests for lvl 18 are repeatable.

Trade with MC would be great. It's depressing thought that mace of sudden doom may end up in MC hands and never have the chance to trade for it.

No you said what if you killed a low toon and he came back with an alt ranger thats what I responded to. Your new scenario is as likely as someone two box againing on multiple accounts any way so again mute point. If you can't pick up an item in the time it took someone to relog you have bigger problems with your connection when it comes to pvp.

Your worried about people switching between different faction characters in the pvp cave right? That wouldn't matter in the pvp cave because if your mc your not going to be fighting a barb with an alternate lvl 20 ranger. Why!? Because a barb is also mc , it doesn't matter if that barb had an alternate 20 ranger because you couldn't pvp the barb in the first place. Hence forth your argument about speed switching between characters of different factions for that reason is a mute point, thats wtf I'm talking about. common sense.

So I'm going to roll a new paly here soon on sapphire, I was wondering who if any players are really shining with their paladins so I can go to them for tips, instead of taking advice from peeps who may have only played one for five minutes. Sapphire server.

I have toons on both mc and fb side and as far as I n tell from past experience getting chainless done is equally frustrating on both sides. On either side of the fence the lack of help is remarkable. Both factions are very clicky, if your in your in if not the its a waiting game to round out a party if one of their friends is to busy to help.

This update completely renewed my interest in warspear, great work!

Priests are beasts in the arena.