slay 2 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Well, this is my concern for a long time The only thing that make BD weak in 1 vs 1 PVP is don't have any skill to make enemy totally uncontrollable. Other class except Druid have a the skills as follow: - Shaman = earthquake --> cant use skill, cant move, area effect :facepalm: confusion make enemy run like crazy & sometimes so far away :facepalm: - Barbarian =charge --> can stun the enemy, range attack - Rogue = gouge --> lock the enemy - Ranger = trap --> but if the enemy walk on it The best skill of BD is only Hamstring to compete them but you should touch the enemy and when you did what you will do? They still can attack you without skill. Thats why MC players can run through the labyrinth much easier with their locking skills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizaa 1 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Bds strong blow just got stronger. Barbs charge works for only 2 blocks + it has a chance to stun, At lvl 5 charge, hamstring lvl 5 lasts longer (and charge has CHANCE to stun). Sap works much better than roar! Chop got weakened too! Bd got more atk speed and same defense! Barbs need change :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulla 127 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 BD is only weak in 1 v 1 against range classes, and hamstring lasts a very long time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay 2 Posted January 10, 2012 Author Share Posted January 10, 2012 My point is BD don't have any locking skills. Stronger or not is another story since the class are balance. Lets talk only about the skills and I don't want to argue of the attack speed, strength, etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizaa 1 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 U can ham mob and run.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scout 0 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 atleast barb have chance to kill ranger,, how with bd vs ranger :crazy: ?? barbar vs druid,,barb can use skill charge for vs with druid,, how with bd vs shaman,,just can run :unknw: ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay 2 Posted January 10, 2012 Author Share Posted January 10, 2012 atleast barb have chance to kill ranger,, how with bd vs ranger :crazy: ?? barbar vs druid,,barb can use skill charge for vs with druid,, how with bd vs shaman,,just can run :unknw: ?? Consider all played by a pro BD vs Shaman BD can't touch shaman the most overpower class in the world BD walking closer --> confussion --> walking closer again --> earthquake --> died BD vs Barbarian BD walking closer --> charge from distance --> stunned --> chop --> BD can't use skill --> oh no! I cant use all my skills --> barbarian running away --> BD chasing in --> charge again --> died BD vs Ranger --> not a chance BD vs Rogue --> well, the thief will try gouge and invisibility if not lucky and start fighting again BD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strygwyr9 0 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 BDs are a fail class, only used for tanking.... they only have chance to win against rouges or noob shamans who go full moon set :wacko: But in Wars BD are like gods thanks to the scary rangers...... make BD stronger = Elves rule Warspear.... I think you know why.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iknowuall 0 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 yeah, elfs be balanced with mcs ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowy 0 Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 elfs do not rule Warspear haha mc could take all elf if they actually got up and did it. the only reason elf would have a chance of ruling Warspear is they have wayyyy more population. :facepalm: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay 2 Posted January 13, 2012 Author Share Posted January 13, 2012 elfs do not rule Warspear haha mc could take all elf if they actually got up and did it. the only reason elf would have a chance of ruling Warspear is they have wayyyy more population. :facepalm: totally out of topic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowy 0 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 well if you look up in the posts someone said elfs rule warspear :facepalm: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepz 0 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 in us sapphire we rules elf is winner :blush: :tease: p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legionn 88 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Consider all played by a pro BD vs Shaman BD can't touch shaman <-- the most overpower class in the world BD walking closer --> confussion --> walking closer again --> earthquake --> died BD vs Barbarian BD walking closer --> charge from distance --> stunned --> chop --> BD can't use skill --> oh no! I cant use all my skills --> barbarian running away --> BD chasing in --> charge again --> died BD vs Ranger --> not a chance BD vs Rogue --> well, the thief will try gouge and invisibility if not lucky and start fighting again BD <-- failed class BD vs Druid --> Root --> Run --> Root again ---> Run again --> Druids Health Full --> Continuous till BD is dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercurial 3 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 BD vs Druid --> Root --> Run --> Root again ---> Run again --> Druids Health Full --> Continuous till BD is dead. yea, 2 druids did that to 2 steathless rogues and we suffered while they full hp :wacko: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elandir 0 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Up until now, the BD was supposed to be a tank class (Although the description gives the impression that the BD is supposed to be a Damage-Dealer). The current skill system of BDs make them a very effective target for two reasons: BDs can inflict a good amount of damage and can take a good amount of damage... I think the other skills are good enough however, the skill of 'Parry' is absolutely pointless as most of the opponents a BD encounters are usually in the ranged-class on whom parry has absolutely no effect. A BDs best quality is his Defense. So there should, perhaps, be a skill which gives a BD a temporary boost in defense... Just my opinion though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ungeziefer 0 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Hamstring is a locker skill. BD vs Rogue > Rogue stealth then Merciless Strike, BD locks Rogue with Hamstring so impossible Rogue run or even to use Gouge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulla 127 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 I think the other skills are good enough however, the skill of 'Parry' is absolutely pointless as most of the opponents a BD encounters are usually in the ranged-class usually encounters rogue and barb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ungeziefer 0 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Hamstring and Gouge are similar skills. Both invalidate one opponent in Arena. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iknowuall 0 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Hamstring and Gouge are similar skills. Both invalidate one opponent in Arena. "invalidate" isn't the best word for harmstring. if its a ranged character, it can still attack cause harmstring doesn't remove the possibility of attack, while gouge does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crossfit 4 Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Parry skill no is useless lol mc have 2 melee clases and fb 1 so dont says its useless :bad: and ur hamstring with a record of 4 yardes when says 2 ...its perfect for destroy rogues. in group :bad: and shamans if u can dominate blind hahahaha and start again blind is for fight the ranger blessing and the 2 vs 1 range clases :facepalm: .balance factions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elandir 0 Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Hamstring and Gouge do not balance each other out as iknowuall rightly pointed out... Parry skill no is useless lol mc have 2 melee clases and fb 1 so dont says its useless :bad: and ur hamstring with a record of 4 yardes when says 2 ...its perfect for destroy rogues. in group :bad: and shamans if u can dominate blind hahahaha and start again blind is for fight the ranger blessing and the 2 vs 1 range clases :facepalm: .balance factions Crossfit, I don't know if you've realized this but in arena we also get Elf opponents to fight. So in that case, the BDs are sitting ducks in front of Druids and Rangers. I merely gave the suggestion to change the parry skill to Defense boost skill because BDs are supposed to be a tank-class player. Other than that, soon we are to have two new factions which have really powerful tank-class players. BDs wouldn't want to look like kids in front of them now would they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odin 1 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Hamstring and Gouge do not balance each other out as iknowuall rightly pointed out... They really are balanced. BDs never seem to see the benefit to being able to prevent an opponent from using his skills while still being able to damage the opponent. If more BDs realized the root function of hamstring was only there to prevent a class from getting away not as crowd control. Opponents not being able to escape or use any skills but still take damage!? That's an amazing skill I currently see being used poorly by most bd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercurial 3 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Blade dancers aren't bad, compare them with a rogue, they have more HP, more Damage, more defense and they can attack the enemy while he is disabled, " but rogue has stealth " is what everyone says, but what are the benefits from this? BD still have many HP and Def so a cheap shot won't do any good, I see rogues pwning asses, why can't BDs do the same? well ofcourse, it's because they charge in like idiots thinking they have infinite HP, a bladedancer can be even more dangerous than a rogue especially in crossing, and why is everything about arenas? is arena the MAIN place where we do our PvP? learn the full potentials of a Bladedancer before you start crying, do you even know what SAP is? it's like +15% armour :facepalm: only bad thing in a BD is Aggression same with Barb, the most FAIL skill in this game, it's like -1 skill for barbs and bds :facepalm: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Zetta] 0 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 guys lets suggest them a rework to taunt, not straying away frm how its supposed to be.. Please post if you have suggestions.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odin 1 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Add a very short stun to taunt. 1 second maybe 2 seconds at lvl 5.. It's range would help close gaps. Would be a pvp reason to spec higher taunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayrox 10 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 bd suck in arena and 1vs1 but best tank . thts all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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