Marcin 7 Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 I tested few monsters on both sides. Here are results. Yellow crowned monsters: Mountain Clans Firstborn Dark Shaman: Shots to kill: 7-8 (no criticals) Shadow of Magician: Shots to kill: 5-6-7 (no criticals) Cutthroat of Blue Oak Shots to kill: 9-10-11! Bandit Steppe-Dweller Shots to kill: 5 This is weird as both monsters (Cutthroats and Bandits drop same items - Bitter Tincture, Ancient Wards, Golden rings) and all others drop items worth 12/9 gold. Here, on Mountain Clans side Blue-crowned monsters deal similar damage to Yellow crowned monsters on Firsborns side :diablo: . I also checked Red-crowned monsters on both sides. Mostly on elfs side I was able to kill them alone (like Fireater, Ailment, Fitch and the 3rd guy). For Fire cougar I would need an additional help. On MC's side for ALL of Red-crowned monster needed is help (Winged demoness, Old Cave Puma, Hired Assasins - needed 3-4 people at least, Leopard-Murderer, Shaman-Apostate). So how is it? Are monsters on MC's side overpowered or Firstborn monsters are too weak? Lets compare also dailys on both sides: Mountain Clans Firstborn Difficulty easy: -40 animal fat -40 bloody eyes -40 tribal idols -40 cedar pines -30 tongues -slay 3 trolls -slay 45 different goblins -15 animal and 15 cold blood -30 or 40 grey feathers -ugruck's invitation -30 imp horns - slay 20 fire elementals -30 ashes of despair -20 fury horns, 10 velonairy leaves -30 eyes of elementals -30 polished fangs Difficulty medium: -30 bitter tincture -10 nasty brew & 20 bent daggers -20 artifacts -slay demoness -slay leopard-murderer -30 polished skulls -30 stolen books Difficulty hard: -20 camelia (droprate extremly low) -30 ancient wards (droprate low, strong mobs - needed additional help) -20 robber's earings - Difficulty easy:-40 fat of animals -30 grey feathers -slay 20 wisps and fireater -slay Ailment and 2 other guys -5 hevenly stones (low droprate but only five) -slay 20 magmors and 20 ghosts -30 ancient wards -40 souls? Difficulty medium: -slay Fire cougar I'm sure I skipped 3 easy daily quests for Firstborns (don't remember the items I was picking) and i haven't done any others yet so please update list of Fb like I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulla 127 Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 We are the toughest clan , hard quests, hard mob, hard bosses, for hard people, in a cold hard land while the fragile elfs kill there little fairy`s and Dance with unicorns around there little tiny island. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanhelsing 1 Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Lol, but the fragile elfs can make you eat dirt nevertheless, the hard environment hasn't made you very though. But don't despair, you are only humans afterall. Not everyone can be a great elf ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azebu 92 Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 imba, or you gave us wrong examples to make our gaming harder. By the way you have almighty barbarians :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulla 127 Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 imba, or you gave us wrong examples to make our gaming harder. By the way you have almighty barbarians :D Barb get`s owned by that mob, only shamon can 1 v1 it properly, rouge sometimes if lucky with crit may win.not fake example, all yellow mob on our side are like that, they being the toughest, for better example of mob u know, the "guarding" mob near gridaur, same strength as them i think, and most of our yellow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doobienights 0 Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 sulla is telling the truth. one of the reasons i quit my rogue on sapphire is because i cant even beat 1 goddamn cutthroat crimson and theres no one on that island to group with. i hope the devs will look in these issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawrq 5 Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 sadly to say but, totally agreed. and what to say about the ranks 1 to 3, on Mountain Clans i got it in like 2~3 days. It took me a night as Firstborn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulla 127 Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 lol, even more guards at elf towns, look at the two towns near nadir, one guarded by 6-8 annoying bow centaurs, other 6-8 normal guards. mc? no guards at one town near nadir, elfs walk in and can kill at respawn without resistance... other town has weaker guards compared to kamp riff red crown guards, third town has no guards, just npc. poor little elfs need more protection from MC people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luksxxt 0 Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 we are the good guys, why dont u undestand? good guys always wins! have better life, when the bad guys live in the cold trying to survive :dirol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanhelsing 1 Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 They are just jealous of us having a larger and better army. Mc are little savages. >:D But now seriously, if it's really such a difference then something should be done about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siwers 5 Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 MC protection escaped because they are afraid to elf :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luksxxt 0 Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 ELF OWN ALL :diablo: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulla 127 Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 They are just jealous of us having a larger and better army. Mc are little savages. >:D But now seriously, if it's really such a difference then something should be done about it. better army? they cant protect there port from rank 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luksxxt 0 Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 rank 1 cant enter there, i saw one today :facepalm: dieing at the entrance... :facepalm: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanhelsing 1 Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 better army? they cant protect there port from rank 1 Rank one, they just ignore them, not worth the trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unstopable 0 Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Nobody forced you to choose Mountain Class ! Stop crying ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulla 127 Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Nobody forced you to choose Mountain Class ! Stop crying ... yes we know, we chose MC, we also have FB char, and i still prefer MC. This topic is pointing out obvious imbalance which creates less players on one side, stop trolling ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luksxxt 0 Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 i think everyone make hes own choose... but more ppl like elven :dirol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay 2 Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 Imo, Devs failed to design the difficulty level between factions since the access to the 2nd island unlocked. Maybe they just do the test on FB only so they didn't realize the difficulty gap between factions. But, through this topic please the GM take this issue to the Devs as priority to be fixed soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doobienights 0 Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 Nobody forced you to choose Mountain Class ! Stop crying ... sulla and the other MC guys were merely pointing out the OBVIOUS difference of difficulty between the factions. if you just exerted the effort to read and understand the first post then maybe you didnt have to make yourself look dumb. and for the record the correct spelling is "UNSTOPPABLE" ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal 0 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 and for the record the correct spelling is "UNSTOPPABLE" ;) Thats what I'm trying to say ever since but didnt have the guts. :lol: i think everyone make hes own choose... but more ppl like elven :dirol: Not really. MC Chars looks cooler. :dirol: @Topic This should be fixed coz in near future, we'll have an imbalanced war, and thats boring. Obviously theres alot of people chose MC at first and recreate FB coz of dailies, I know many of them. :facepalm: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcin 7 Posted July 23, 2011 Author Share Posted July 23, 2011 I did today's daily on elfs side. Our mob that drops pouches deals ~40 damage and is like 5 shots to kill (shaman), mob on elf's side deals ~30 damage and 3 shots to kill, both green crowns :facepalm: . And we have to get 40 pouches. Imagine how long it takes for barbarian or rogue to finish this daily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulla 127 Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 I did today's daily on elfs side. Our mob that drops pouches deals ~40 damage and is like 5 shots to kill (shaman), mob on elf's side deals ~30 damage and 3 shots to kill, both green crowns :facepalm: . And we have to get 40 pouches. Imagine how long it takes for barbarian or rogue to finish this daily. Yea, i found that cave yesterday by accident thanks to slay, was searching other cave, me and marcin both shocked when see that, mob in there also "deamon halfing" drop nasty brew, and nice loot, all 4-5 hit kills, the mob that drop that in MC land is same as always, 9-10hits to kill with 35-40dmg, "younger demoness'' same strength as axe mob from berengar guards....no wonder most people quit MC, weaker class, harder mob... still fun travel to elf land to do quest, makes daily more interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulla 127 Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 do devs play with rouge or barb? they lose to every elf class, even at r5, so make elfs if you want to be the strongest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanhelsing 1 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 It's only natural that elfs are the strongest. ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulla 127 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 For now van , but barb will be the strongest, with roar + 2 handed axe/sword, + chain mail , who would stand a chance? roar lowers damage by alot at rank 4.. -20/30 on bosses, and made a ranger hit 50/60 who was doing 70-80, that's a skill! IMO BD won't have chance without a new skill to counter roar, once 2-handed axe comes into play.. one day you elfs will fall from power ,and humans will rule again : >:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay 2 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Sulla, I suggest you to start build a barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrono 4 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 sulla is telling the truth. one of the reasons i quit my rogue on sapphire is because i cant even beat 1 goddamn cutthroat crimson and theres no one on that island to group with. i hope the devs will look in these issue. just use brain,here is the solution...:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcin 7 Posted August 1, 2011 Author Share Posted August 1, 2011 just use brain,here is the solution...:D try to do that with red ones :facepalm: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrono 4 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 who need farm red ones? this is no Diablo,to kill all what you see:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulla 127 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 There is quest kill 6 crimson bandits auger means, not possible alone without help, unless your a shamon and use crossing. blue oak are useless to farm, better go elf land and kill steppe bandit`s near dinalt for wards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrono 4 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 There is quest kill 6 crimson bandits auger means, not possible alone without help, unless your a shamon and use crossing. blue oak are useless to farm, better go elf land and kill steppe bandit`s near dinalt for wards yea,that is right but as MC you can done all,no quit...:D it is possible to survive as barbarian... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulla 127 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 yea, one crazy guy havr r5 barb at EU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambi 0 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 maybe the developers just forgot to label the factions when they set the game up? fb=beginner mode/easy mc=moderate/normal mode 3rd faction/???=hard 4th faction/???=expert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icemanxxx 0 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 yea, one crazy guy havr r5 barb at EU. Ouhhhh... I have rank 5 barbar....on US shapire.... but Iam still normal people 8) not crazy :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doobienights 0 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 just use brain,here is the solution...:D apparently you didnt use your brain to understand my earlier post. 1.) its for a quest. 2.) im pertaining to the red ones "crimsons" which are very hard to kill if your a rogue. 3.) learn to read read read Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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