slay 2 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Purify - 5 FoJ - 4 Heal - 5 Aura - 2 Heal: 332/375 The strongest melee char I ever have, you need much time to build it slowly because its need high amp gears (as melee char class mostly) The setup is for all situation, PvP or PvE because I don't like to change gears. Only change cloak and rings if need more heal (392/442) but it will sacrifice 4% block. Have been tried to change accuracy/critical crystal on the amulet but I decided invest on accuracy. Its very strong and need tactical approach to become a beast killer in PvP. Once try to test in PvP cave vs a high amp DK, when I almost kill it, other mcs kill me :facepalm: no fair PvP there. More fun chasing enemies and give them a hard fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REAPER 110 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Purify - 5 FoJ - 4 Heal - 5 Aura - 2 Heal: 332/375 The strongest melee char I ever have, you need much time to build it slowly because its need high amp gears (as melee char class mostly) The setup is for all situation, PvP or PvE because I don't like to change gears. Only change cloak and rings if need more heal (392/442) but it will sacrifice 4% block. Have been tried to change accuracy/critical crystal on the amulet but I decided invest on accuracy. Its very strong and need tactical approach to become a beast killer in PvP. Once try to test in PvP cave vs a high amp DK, when I almost kill it, other mcs kill me :facepalm: no fair PvP there. More fun chasing enemies and give them a hard fight. your stats seem intresting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doobienights 0 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 hmm. how did u get 34% def with 2.9k def? do resil visually add to def percentage stats and is ur mace +10? hard to reach 116 astral and 368 damage while wearing block rings without +10 mace then enchanting with astral. Your moon def is also quite high for someone wearing arena equips + lab chest armor, are u using moon enchants? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lallouss 854 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 hmm. how did u get 34% def with 2.9k def? do resil visually add to def percentage stats and is ur mace +10? hard to reach 116 astral and 368 damage while wearing block rings without +10 mace then enchanting with astral. Your moon def is also quite high for someone wearing arena equips + lab chest armor, are u using moon enchants? lolz he got barskin on from a druid xD cant u see his astral def, nobody can have astral def unless a druid used barskin on the character :) thats wht made his def go up in all statsOR he has lvl3 magic def n physical def from his guild so he gets 3% on all :good: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barge 0 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 for slay's paladin setup, im venturing a guess here, correct me if wrong +10 arena mace damage 348 with astral crit enchant 44 astral amulet 18 astral amount = 54+44+18 = 116 block rings(2% block each) arena shield 2.4% block + block crit enchant 2% dark armour 2.2% block block crit enchant for belt 2% total block = 2+2+2.4+2+2.2+2=12.6% block besides the dark armour, the rest of the armour are all arena gears resilience crit runes for boots and armour. resilience = 2.5+2.5+2+2+2+2+2.7+2.7= 18.4% for the 34.4% physical defense, its from the guild def. i would guess its because of the dark defence that slay wants, otherwise it may be better to have the HE armour. very strong setup by slay i must say just my 2 cents thank you barge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doobienights 0 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 :facepalm: ohh ok. probably like what barge said. d@mn slay is rich now. i'm trying to build a high regen pala with 13-15% resil right now. going for heroic set without the boots then regen on shield and resil on belt coz i dont wanna rely on "chance" stats so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay 2 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Lol Barge u r a true paladin bro and all ur explanation r 100% correct. Yes I'm sick of those warlock noobs that's why I boost my dark def (and the armor cheap). @doob, the game based on luck, but...if u have bad luck u can retreat for a while to heal urself n keep up the fight, that's why I love paladin. Chosen strength is on moon resist and killing any healer is tough, but with this setup you will amaze of the result. This setup can be implemented by limited budget player since arena set can get for free and resilience stat will compensate of the low amp gears. And yes, resilience will add to any kind of def so for instance my physical def is around 53%, moon resist around 35%, dark resist around 28%. This is fighting machine in all situation. You can give a long fight to any healer, they will stay close to u because they won't let u to have full hp again xD. Barb,DK,BD,Rogue...they need a very good luck to beat a paladin xD. Ranger...predictable trap, but very dangerous if you meet someone with ice queen set. Just imagine if I got lv5 barskin buff and heal from a druid and run like a rambo in the middle of war to spread my yellow fart xD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doobienights 0 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 very nice build slay and salute to barge :clapping: well i think i'll incorporate some of ur build parts to my build. basically like what i said, high regen (with heroic set complete except boots gonna try to reach 180) 4-5% block and some dark def enchants. the only problem is getting my arena mace to +10 :D as of the moment its just +6 :rofl: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadon 0 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Purify - 5 FoJ - 4 Heal - 5 Aura - 2 Heal: 332/375 The strongest melee char I ever have, you need much time to build it slowly because its need high amp gears (as melee char class mostly) The setup is for all situation, PvP or PvE because I don't like to change gears. Only change cloak and rings if need more heal (392/442) but it will sacrifice 4% block. Have been tried to change accuracy/critical crystal on the amulet but I decided invest on accuracy. Its very strong and need tactical approach to become a beast killer in PvP. Once try to test in PvP cave vs a high amp DK, when I almost kill it, other mcs kill me :facepalm: no fair PvP there. More fun chasing enemies and give them a hard fight. Teach me Master :pleasantry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay 2 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 I have DK full HE with 189 regen and its sux. A paladin that can heal himself no point focus on high regen. Also in the fight the regen will cut 50%. Even your regen is 200 it will become 100 per 5 seconds or 60 per 3 seconds (most attack rate). Compare to 100 regen only 30 points different per attack. But so much stats that u will sacrifice by using such expensive HE set. I'm planning to replace the regen rune on my amulet by HP rune since paladin doesn't need much hp regen in my opinion unless u r planning soloing bosses which is need 5 heal & 5 aura that will make u sacrifice purify/foj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay 2 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 @nadon lmao u r the best bro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay 2 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 very nice build slay and salute to barge :clapping: well i think i'll incorporate some of ur build parts to my build. basically like what i said, high regen (with heroic set complete except boots gonna try to reach 180) 4-5% block and some dark def enchants. the only problem is getting my arena mace to +10 :D as of the moment its just +6 :rofl: Bro, is not all about damage. You could reach 307 heal with dmg enchanted mace also. But there is no point to use shield but u dont get the max benefit of it. Actually u can replace dodge with block (forget about dodge) and replace it with parry. Why my set focusing on dodge & block is to compensate range attackers (2 stats will help u survive). Vanhelzing's mace is only +7 but in most arena result his damage higher than me even he tank enemies in the fight, still a mystery... :wacko: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barge 0 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 @ slay and doobienights thank you for your comments :blush: regarding regeneration i would say its situational. if i was in the volcano stage then regeneration may be more beneficial as i sometimes run/teleport around to heal. if it was against melees, then parry from the cloak is better compared to regen. for the shield, i would prefer block rune against a def rune as it works against casters too, even though it is chance based. but you could go for regen too. for the amulet, i prefer regen against fortitude. in long fights it may heal more than the 50+ hp fortitude gives. about the damage output for mace users, i always have trouble killing healers alone which is why i went for a damage crystal instead of astral. even with +10 sd mace or arena mace (without damage crystal), we are still doing sub 400 damage which is way less than bd's +10 swords of around 600, and they hit faster too. i also observed arena fights normally would go in the kill order healers first then locks/rangers then melees. this would mean that the opponents would likely leave you alone untill you are the last guy standing where in the time that you are being left alone, you have to make the most of your damage to drop them fast. A damage crystal would be better in this situation in my humble opinion. thank you barge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doobienights 0 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 @slay the reason im using regen is because its not a chance stat, from my experiences i survived longer (i even managed to kill semi pro shamans) and im going for the lab astral ring because of astral and accuracy. Btw how much regen does harmony give when it crits on lvl17 rings? And also ive already bought he set except shield which is super expensive. :-) @barge why dont u show us ur stats ;) im sure its as interesting as ryn's pala Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay 2 Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 @barge fighting healer the tip is "variable forecast attack" lol its a noob name by me, u can ask me what the meaning in the game, by using this style my dk using +8 lv15 arena sword which has only 267 attack could kill a healer. @auger bro, crit on lv17 ring is only 10 lol For me, I would not sacrifice 2.4% block for 17 regen on arena shield. 1 successful block similar to 170+ damage = 50+ secs to compensate the dmg with regen bro, its not worth. Its just basic idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disron 0 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 This is my pala. I know its defense is low because all armor is +1 :rofl: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disron 0 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 ::) This is my pala with shild. also with +1 armor :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabraunth 0 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Gab's stats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lallouss 854 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Gab's stats PRO EU PALY ;D momments later in US Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabraunth 0 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 PRO EU PALY ;D momments later in US Really nice bro. When I do hunting or questing my stats look somewhat like that. So you prefer to use an att crystal in your mace? I go with astral these days due the fact that we have guilds and i'm always in arena with guild members. Your block is low, im a little shocked to see that. I find block to be by far my favorite stat, especially against rangers. I think im gonna try to to use an att crystal again, maybe ill have a different take on it. My opinions always change as i understand more and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodylipa 1 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Looks low to me... I don't know pala gear I guess, but if your crit is lower then 20% why isn't your def stats higher? This is my current 1h set for PvE and PvP. Weak point is low resi in arena. I'll work on a offensive shield set next, just to try it. This is a DK of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabraunth 0 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Looks low to me... I don't know pala gear I guess, but if your crit is lower then 20% why isn't your def stats higher? This is my current 1h set for PvE and PvP. Weak point is low resi in arena. I'll work on a offensive shield set next, just to try it. This is a DK of course. Your stats are pretty nice there bro. Your gear must be a mix of some sort, i'm guessing half arena, 1 piece killing and some divine? Either way it looks pretty good. I stay stacked in res. Final choice for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jswaaz 87 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 im currently in the process of max magical defense sets for my pally i almost have the max possible sun defense in the game, just need another level 18 shield. BG guard set gives more sun defense then critical enchant 18 set + BG rings/cape/belt which all give sun defense (cape gives the same as cloak of conquerer/dragonslayers cape so no loss there) after i get a second lv18 shield, ill crit enchant sun defense on it. then ill be using heroic endurance set for moon defense (not to mention grinch cape which is the only tradable cape in-game with moon defense) paladins have amazing potential farming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabraunth 0 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 defense) paladins have amazing potential farming Yeah, they can survive in really tight situations. That's what I love most about pala, in swamps and anywhere farming I pala has and endless pot, that is more than enough if you stack enough astral. And it feels really good to rely only on yourself. Playing pala reminds me of an old final fantasy game, where you can play alone and still get a good enjoyment. Pala comes with the full specs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jswaaz 87 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Yeah, they can survive in really tight situations. That's what I love most about pala, in swamps and anywhere farming I pala has and endless pot, that is more than enough if you stack enough astral. And it feels really good to rely only on yourself. Playing pala reminds me of an old final fantasy game, where you can play alone and still get a good enjoyment. Pala comes with the full specs. this is the only reason ive played since new classes were released, oh, and back when swamp meant something, i solod all swamp quests as a pally with no pots EASILY. i cant wait for tower, paladins will always be the best farm class Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lallouss 854 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Really nice bro. When I do hunting or questing my stats look somewhat like that. So you prefer to use an att crystal in your mace? I go with astral these days due the fact that we have guilds and i'm always in arena with guild members. Your block is low, im a little shocked to see that. I find block to be by far my favorite stat, especially against rangers. I think im gonna try to to use an att crystal again, maybe ill have a different take on it. My opinions always change as i understand more and more. ty and well depends on wht set gear i use xD u should know that paly has alot sorts of gear situation :3 i use this for max heal,def,resi at swamp kiting low block becuz i use 15bg astral rings :3 Looks low to me... I don't know pala gear I guess, but if your crit is lower then 20% why isn't your def stats higher? This is my current 1h set for PvE and PvP. Weak point is low resi in arena. I'll work on a offensive shield set next, just to try it. This is a DK of course. nice stats :3 23.5dodge only achieved by having armor with dodge id say dd armor maybe :3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shitzo 37 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 nice stats :3 23.5dodge only achieved by having armor with dodge id say dd armor maybe :3 I bet no one would guess what armour he is using.It's far lower level. Shit you not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jswaaz 87 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I bet no one would guess what armour he is using. It's far lower level. Shit you not. mixed sets :spiteful: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barge 0 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 level13/15 armour with nice stats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodylipa 1 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Nope, still not right xD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doobienights 0 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 lets change topic to "guess bloody's gears" xD is it CC + lvl15 arena gears? ;D edit: the 10% block is kinda tricky. I was thinking if u sacrificed block enchant on belt to get more resil? or your wearing firm mail coz it gives dodge and block at the same time hence the 10% block. really dont know :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay 2 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Lips's DK using lv13 firm mail the only heavy armor with dodge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodylipa 1 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 I believe dd got dodge but I could be wrong. But yes my chest piece is the awesome firm mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabraunth 0 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Bloody's gear is as follows. Armor is one of these: Violet mail of bodyguard (more than likely this one is bloody's) Violet mail of sergeant Violet carapace of foreman Violet carapace of berserker Gloves are one of these: Violet vambraces of bodyguard Violet vambraces of berserker Boots are: Divine boots Helm is: Divine helm Cloak is: Abyss zealots cloak Amulet is: Lavalier of inward power This is not all correct, but i'm sure im about 70% correct. Cheers Bloody :drinks: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lallouss 854 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 I believe dd got dodge but I could be wrong. But yes my chest piece is the awesome firm mail. i never thought about dodge mixed with block armor :lol: well doesnt this sacrafice ur def, resi and critic? ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodylipa 1 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 i never thought about dodge mixed with block armor :lol: well doesnt this sacrafice ur def, resi and critic? ;D My gear is +8 average which gives 4500def for my setup. So ya it's not 5k+, but I'm not +10 either. Resi is low (14%) but it's very hard to combo def stats and resi if you want def stats over 6%. My crit is lower (17%) but I make up it with high 1h accuracy. On average higher acc and lower crit performs better dps on avg, then lower acc and higher crit. I made a small statistic study (in PvE). I don't see the point to sacrifice my acc to have a 2% crit chance against resi casters. That lonely crit should quick be equaled by enemy not dodging your hits (PvP). The tricky part is to beat dps of a 2h for two reasons. - 2h dps suffers less from being constantly stunned compared to 1h. - 2h builds can easy combo high acc and crit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodylipa 1 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Bloody's gear is as follows. Armor is one of these: Violet mail of bodyguard (more than likely this one is bloody's) Violet mail of sergeant Violet carapace of foreman Violet carapace of berserker Gloves are one of these: Violet vambraces of bodyguard Violet vambraces of berserker Boots are: Divine boots Helm is: Divine helm Cloak is: Abyss zealots cloak Amulet is: Lavalier of inward power This is not all correct, but i'm sure im about 70% correct. Cheers Bloody :drinks: Helm, boots and cloak is correct :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homeless 0 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Maybe op 13 lvl armor :blush: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexybow 0 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 :blush: someone 2 pvp or arena? pm me 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexybow 0 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 these are better now :facepalm: these are old picks when i ware weaker :blush: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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