abner7669 0 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Which is better for a rogue knife or sword Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liqhtr 2 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Knife have low attack but high speed. Sword have high attack but low speed. U can use sword+knife Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azebu 92 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 All 4 setups are good and pretty much the same. Difference is slight, I heard somewhere sword+dag is best setup, but unless you are min-maxing go with whatever you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dealesis 0 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Does a dagger lower attack rate even in off-hand slot? Or is attack rate only connected to main hand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crossfit 4 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Does a dagger lower attack rate even in off-hand slot? Or is attack rate only connected to main hand? sword on left hand always and dagger on right if you put dagger in the left hand and the right sword shalt less damage in my opinion better use 2 daggers or mix sword and dagger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shitzo 37 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Each swing you do depends on your weapon, 1st swing = Mainhand 2nd swing = offhand. Sword = mainhand dagger = offhand, makes more damage and you always get that quick attack right after your 1st hit, so you can do Normal attack > Merciless Strike > Normal attack in 2-3 seconds, unlike swords which take a long time to swing but does allot of damage, no point using Daggers if you're not gonna amp them atleast +7, Actually I think the only time you should use 2 daggers is if they are Rondels of Sudden Doom, 2 more damage than arena sword if I'm right, and it got penetration too makes your enemy -5% defense. If you're using arena weapons, I would suggest 2 Acute Flamberges, good stats and damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dealesis 0 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Thanks crossfit I tried to test it by myself but I haven't been able to make enemy last long enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abner7669 0 Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 heard a lot about doom weapons exactly what are they???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nastyburp 0 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 heard a lot about doom weapons exactly what are they???? Doom weapons are the hardest weapons to get they are lvl 18 equips that you could get from khaaz shar(eye) but since swamps update if your lucky u can get a doom from hydra quest :facepalm: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSeby 0 Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 SWORD AND KNIFE BEST FOR ROGUE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skoif 0 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 I say sword sword because if u press your power hit just before your normal hit you will do your power hit almost at the same time (double hit) but this requires perfect timing, perfect for arena :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shitzo 37 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 I say sword sword because if u press your power hit just before your normal hit you will do your power hit almost at the same time (double hit) but this requires perfect timing, perfect for arena :-) But if you have a dagger on the left hand, you will get an extra hit after that power hit, which makes 3 hits then you gouge your enemy so he only gets 2 hits, not 3, then repeat again giving you a total of 6 hits and enemy 5 hits, unless he is fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luvis 1 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 ;D 2 swords work great.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorc 1 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 For me are daggers better (for rogue) because they are ment for rogues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shitzo 37 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 For me are daggers better (for rogue) because they are ment for rogues. Looks don't matter, mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luvis 1 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 ;D The Reason I choose sword Becoz think About when U come out of stealth.... How many extra dmg u can get with sword....??? Dagger well its speed but have really low dmg.... Ps..dont Use Scout Gladius its has no acc....Its really noob to have no acc on sword.....Better use Flameberg ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedemon123 0 Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 I was thinking at first to go with daggers but then I realised its low damaged, so I just decided going with two swords, and well I like it ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cigma 1 Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Well my opinion, 2 daggers = more attack speed =more critical. But less damages from merc; 2 blades = slow swing burst attack, great for pvp. But then again it's slow. Each attack missed is a great loss. Unlike daggers, even did a miss, can still swing another swift attack. I always enjoy fighting 1on 1 with a BD that wields 2 scout gladius. 2 successful attacks every 5 slow swings :rofl: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisaluv 4 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Hmm if u compare at the doom selection.. I see that a doomrondel is usefull cuz the penetraion and higher speed. And the pene give almost thesame hit attack against someone with thesame deffence. The doomblade got a parry........ Thats not needed by a rogue. If a rogue go for parry and also enchant parry, their dodge skill pretty sucks. I choosed to wear 2 rondels and i got still close battles against ppl with doomblades. Just my opinion is that the doom blade is for bladedancers and the doom rondel for the rogue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEGATA 0 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Guys, this is simple math... Daggers do more DPS. So, if normally with swords 30 hits for example are needed to kill a boss, with daggers u will hit him 45 times. Thats 15 more chanses of doing critical hits. But that's not all... Lets say u do 420 with 2 swords and u hit 30 times. Thats totally 12600 dmg. With 2 daggers u do 380 and u hit the same boss 45 times. Thats 17100 dmg. Quite impresive, hugh ? :shok: Now i will show u how this work with rondels of sudden doom. U will gain 5% penetration from rondels. If u invest only in penetration, u can reach 14-15% with no problem like me. Exquse me if im wrong but there is no sword from arena or doom sword that u can use and have that much penetration. After alot endless night playing PvP i figured out that two doom rondels +8 and +7 do the same amount of dmg to an enemy for a period of time like +9 and +8 arena swords. Think smart ppl ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liqhtr 2 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Guys, this is simple math... Daggers do more DPS. So, if normally with swords 30 hits for example are needed to kill a boss, with daggers u will hit him 45 times. Thats 15 more chanses of doing critical hits. But that's not all... Lets say u do 420 with 2 swords and u hit 30 times. Thats totally 12600 dmg. With 2 daggers u do 380 and u hit the same boss 45 times. Thats 17100 dmg. Quite impresive, hugh ? :shok: Now i will show u how this work with rondels of sudden doom. U will gain 5% penetration from rondels. If u invest only in penetration, u can reach 14-15% with no problem like me. Exquse me if im wrong but there is no sword from arena or doom sword that u can use and have that much penetration. After alot endless night playing PvP i figured out that two doom rondels +8 and +7 do the same amount of dmg to an enemy for a period of time like +9 and +8 arena swords. Think smart ppl ;) 2 blade of sd rapes 2 rondel of sd.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diana1995 0 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 All 4 setups are good and pretty much the same. Difference is slight, I heard somewhere sword+dag is best setup, but unless you are min-maxing go with whatever you want. yes but i have 2 daggers = fast more crits try it tho i never pick parry on rogue :\ :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEGATA 0 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 2 blade of sd rapes 2 rondel of sd.. I agree with u.But rogue is not that type of char, u see... When rogue start from lvl 1 he gets 2 rondels as weapons. And bd get the swords. For me, rogue is to sneak behind enemy lines and hit from the back. Mainly for supporting someone. Thats why u have stelth skill. Its meant to be like this. U go somewhere, get the job done as fast as possible and get the ♥♥♥♥ out of there before someone realized what happend. Swords are not the right choice for 1 rogue. Cuz u waste time. And thats not good when u r in arena, right ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragonir 20 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 sd rondel and sd blade ... both have big + and - sd blade have realy nice dmg but is slow sd rondel is fast and have pene but if rondel is low amp it suck because dmg is to low :blush: well I'm using 2x SD BLADE and i have about 13.5% speed but still some times i can see how slow blade's are... my friend is using Blade + rondel His dmg and speed are nice .... 2x rondel ... i think this could be op if is +9/10 and if player use max penetration to hit full power in enemy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diana1995 0 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 sd rondel and sd blade ... both have big + and - sd blade have realy nice dmg but is slow sd rondel is fast and have pene but if rondel is low amp it suck because dmg is to low :blush: well I'm using 2x SD BLADE and i have about 13.5% speed but still some times i can see how slow blade's are... my friend is using Blade + rondel His dmg and speed are nice .... 2x rondel ... i think this could be op if is +9/10 and if player use max penetration to hit full power in enemy in the end both wins,now rondels have acu while sdb parry so if u want to be dmg pick rondels coz less doge (rondels are cheaper then sdb ;D :good: ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hourai 139 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 in the end both wins,now rondels have acu while sdb parry so if u want to be dmg pick rondels coz less doge (rondels are cheaper then sdb ;D :good: ) Both have accuracy. You probably meant penetration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shitzo 37 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 You guys are newbs lol Rogues rely on heavy burst damage while BD can do good with either burst damage or speed. What's the point of speed if you're gonna Gouge and Stealth? Have you ever even thought about that? You'd only get enough time for 3 shots on your enemy then you Gouge him, unless you're overamp'd. And how is full penetration set gonna out DPS non full penetration set when you will run out of energy faster and won't even be able to use your skills. In PvE, 2 Daggers do equal overall damage to 2 Blades, it may be faster yeah but 50 damage is ALOT. Not only does your normal hits scale with it BUT ALSO your damage skill. But the best combo for any dual wielder is definitely Sword and Dagger. With this set up you will be able to do 3 hits in 2 seconds with your skill and still have a high burst, with Swords you'd do only 2 and with Daggers you'd do 3 also but very low damage. Speed would help if you would get skill disabled and also to get an extra hit if you know how to use it properly. With this you'd get nearly the same burst damage as Swords and nearly the same speed as 2 Daggers all in one, and with the extra speed you'd be able to pick off more hits than 2 Swords making your overall damage far greater than 2 Swords and obviously higher than 2 Daggers. And Fyi, 4.2% Penetration isn't even 2 digits lol. Daggers are also good in the hands of someone who knows what they can do but in this game, so far everyone I've seen focuses on their skill's cooldowns and spamming buttons. I used to get around 3-4 extra hits or "Cheapshots" on my enemy if I timed my enemy's and my own attacks and power skills with my Gouge to make it that I hit him and he gets stunned before he could hit me. But that wasn't enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEGATA 0 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 You guys are newbs lol Rogues rely on heavy burst damage while BD can do good with either burst damage or speed. What's the point of speed if you're gonna Gouge and Stealth? Have you ever even thought about that? You'd only get enough time for 3 shots on your enemy then you Gouge him, unless you're overamp'd. And how is full penetration set gonna out DPS non full penetration set when you will run out of energy faster and won't even be able to use your skills. In PvE, 2 Daggers do equal overall damage to 2 Blades, it may be faster yeah but 50 damage is ALOT. Not only does your normal hits scale with it BUT ALSO your damage skill. But the best combo for any dual wielder is definitely Sword and Dagger. With this set up you will be able to do 3 hits in 2 seconds with your skill and still have a high burst, with Swords you'd do only 2 and with Daggers you'd do 3 also but very low damage. Speed would help if you would get skill disabled and also to get an extra hit if you know how to use it properly. With this you'd get nearly the same burst damage as Swords and nearly the same speed as 2 Daggers all in one, and with the extra speed you'd be able to pick off more hits than 2 Swords making your overall damage far greater than 2 Swords and obviously higher than 2 Daggers. And Fyi, 4.2% Penetration isn't even 2 digits lol. Daggers are also good in the hands of someone who knows what they can do but in this game, so far everyone I've seen focuses on their skill's cooldowns and spamming buttons. I used to get around 3-4 extra hits or "Cheapshots" on my enemy if I timed my enemy's and my own attacks and power skills with my Gouge to make it that I hit him and he gets stunned before he could hit me. But that wasn't enough. If u can kill druid with swords u r lucky. Admit it. I kill them easy with KW set and 16% penetration. Doom rondels of course... From pure 381 physical dmg i do ~355 on cloth armors, no matter the amp. When priests drain my mana out i kill them too. Without mana. Just because of penetration and attack speed. Obviously no mana needed for them. BUT if u PvP melee - shit changes... Its a bit tricky, but its not impossible to beat some BD ass up with 3,500 hp... U know, skilled player with doom rondels can kill pretty much anyone. Its a motherducken OP. In proper hands rogue can be a killing machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnivhal 3 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Veni Vidi Vici ...using two daggers ..an I never looked back 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkzain 0 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Looks don't matter, mate. u sure? XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agent_009 2 Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 :( AMEN, bro...! The numbers never lie...! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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