Bdsc 41 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 1 hour ago, aks said: I think u misunderstood what is written in post i see ty for explaining Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedom 281 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 (edited) Guys all the classes are fine where they at. We need them to stay for horror event to get quicker drops. Chill out. I need them power and tanking abilities to do dgs in 1 stam. Can the light and Dark dance together?Ying Yang Dance! Edited September 19, 2018 by Speedom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man 12 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Shaman new skill is bugged at lv1 reduce 30% pene did u look at it batman? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aks 26 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 3 hours ago, Man said: Shaman new skill is bugged at lv1 reduce 30% pene did u look at it batman? I looked shaman new skill is working correctly. Akasha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aks 26 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 9 hours ago, Man said: Its little buff and huge nerf we wont rely on pots all the time if its then as dk use heal pot too when u about to die Hunter also have 4 unit burn/ sec., Since start, same seeker, only warden had low mana burn before. Its no big deal use proper gears with mana in it. Nadir gears now have energy regen.in it for tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man 12 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) 23 minutes ago, aks said: Hunter also have 4 unit burn/ sec., Since start, same seeker, only warden had low mana burn before. Its no big deal use proper gears with mana in it. Nadir gears now have energy regen.in it for tank. No hunter has skill that burn mana as basic skill which means he can put a relic that reduce the amount of mana consumption while warden have it as expert so that relic wont work at it thats how broken mc side is learn the game before you reply please Edited September 20, 2018 by Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subhojeet 58 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 On 9/13/2018 at 3:30 PM, Peony said: Minions no longer disappear at the death of the character and remain at the location. They will wait for the resurrection of their master. When the character is resurrected, the minion will move to the character. You will therefore not lose your faithful assistant in case of unexpected death. Today i have lost 2 minion after die at dg. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcbref 610 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) 25 minutes ago, subhojeet said: Today i have lost 2 minion after die at dg. Why? Maybe if those minions stayed in the dg and everyone left it so the run ended Edited September 20, 2018 by Jcbreff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcbref 610 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 3 hours ago, Man said: No hunter has skill that burn mana as basic skill which means he can put a relic that reduce the amount of mana consumption while warden have it as expert so that relic wont work at it thats how broken mc side is learn the game before you reply please Seekers have mana burning skill as starting skill and they can put relic into it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aks 26 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Jcbreff said: Seekers have mana burning skill as starting skill and they can put relic into it 3 hours ago, Man said: No hunter has skill that burn mana as basic skill which means he can put a relic that reduce the amount of mana consumption while warden have it as expert so that relic wont work at it thats how broken mc side is learn the game before you reply please Hunters dont have mana regen gears while wardens can easily have mana regen gear. Get good gears before complaning about mana burn, i have warden to and i never out of energy. Stop complaining. Better change level 1 gears to some descent one I have 320 energy and 93 energy regen on warden and im never out of energy Edited September 20, 2018 by aks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raislin 337 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 1 hour ago, aks said: Hunters dont have mana regen gears while wardens can easily have mana regen gear. Get good gears before complaning about mana burn, i have warden to and i never out of energy. Stop complaining. Better change level 1 gears to some descent one I have 320 energy and 93 energy regen on warden and im never out of energy Hunters have mana regen gear, what are you on about, There's now plenty of boots with mana regen on them and nothing stops you from using a mana regen amulet or cape. Man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazelnut 600 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 2 hours ago, aks said: Hunters dont have mana regen gears while wardens can easily have mana regen gear. Get good gears before complaning about mana burn, i have warden to and i never out of energy. Stop complaining. Better change level 1 gears to some descent one I have 320 energy and 93 energy regen on warden and im never out of energy Wow, 320 energy, that's so much o.O If hunter doesn't have any mana regen gears when how will both hunter and seeker survive xD ? Devs added many regen gears btw.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeon Muller 17 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 19 hours ago, Man said: That dk is +1 arena armor u know that ? So u still making a video or not? Compare damage given to all classes by a bd +10 and the other classes must be +10 too of course 9 hours ago, Man said: No hunter has skill that burn mana as basic skill which means he can put a relic that reduce the amount of mana consumption while warden have it as expert so that relic wont work at it thats how broken mc side is learn the game before you reply please Well wanna change the passive buff of 3 mana regeneration with elves 4% damage buff? You will get more mana then Besides every class rely on mana and seekers can use that relic as well so its balanced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man 12 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 8 hours ago, aks said: Hunters dont have mana regen gears while wardens can easily have mana regen gear. Get good gears before complaning about mana burn, i have warden to and i never out of energy. Stop complaining. Better change level 1 gears to some descent one I have 320 energy and 93 energy regen on warden and im never out of energy Compare seeker to hunter since they dps but warden is the only tank who has mana consumption skill so im asking why mc tanks at least one of them doesnt have mans consumption skill ? Fair enough right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man 12 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Leeon Muller said: So u still making a video or not? Compare damage given to all classes by a bd +10 and the other classes must be +10 too of course Well wanna change the passive buff of 3 mana regeneration with elves 4% damage buff? You will get more mana then Besides every class rely on mana and seekers can use that relic as well so its balanced Give me a tank at mc side who got mana consumption skill then it will be balanced when u say hunter and seeker those r dps classes i agree but why the only tank who got mana skill is warden while mc dont ? This is not fair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacknia 19 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 why ppl made pointeless fights for no reson ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aks 26 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Man said: Give me a tank at mc side who got mana consumption skill then it will be balanced when u say hunter and seeker those r dps classes i agree but why the only tank who got mana skill is warden while mc dont ? This is not fair Why pala, bd , no mana consumption skill? They r pre warden tanks like barb and dk. Ok give barb and dk same skill as warden with mana consumption, im happy with that. that skill is just too op that i wont mind having high mana usesge. Leeon Muller 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeon Muller 17 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 6 hours ago, Man said: Give me a tank at mc side who got mana consumption skill then it will be balanced when u say hunter and seeker those r dps classes i agree but why the only tank who got mana skill is warden while mc dont ? This is not fair Give me a tank like bd who can deal more dmg than a rogue and still get less hit I would love to have a skill like warden on barb or dk. They could make the new dk skill passive and we both would be happy 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man 12 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Leeon Muller said: Give me a tank like bd who can deal more dmg than a rogue and still get less hit I would love to have a skill like warden on barb or dk. They could make the new dk skill passive and we both would be happy 😊 Barb dk both can hit like a bd and get way more less dmg than a bd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgings 1824 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 7 hours ago, Man said: Barb dk both can hit like a bd Ok, that was good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man 12 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 24 minutes ago, Higgings said: Ok, that was good Ok almost like a bd want it with numbers ? Bd full +10 with awards is 1200 dmg barb same amp at 900 with one hand so isnt same ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgings 1824 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 33 minutes ago, Man said: Ok almost like a bd want it with numbers ? Bd full +10 with awards is 1200 dmg barb same amp at 900 with one hand so isnt same ? Mmm no? Barb hits 900 dmg. Is he hitting a +5 pvp tank? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raislin 337 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Higgings said: Mmm no? Barb hits 900 dmg. Is he hitting a +5 pvp tank? https://db.warspear.pp.ua/calc/en/37345 With any dmg buff its over 900 damage. And he meant your damage value not what he hits on other people. Although you can still hit over 900s on +5 pvp tanks with that probably. Since about 45% ferocity if you have the skill. Edited September 21, 2018 by Raislin Man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgings 1824 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 20 minutes ago, Raislin said: https://db.warspear.pp.ua/calc/en/37345 With any dmg buff its over 900 damage. And he meant your damage value not what he hits on other people. Although you can still hit over 900s on +5 pvp tanks with that probably. Since about 45% ferocity if you have the skill. Owww I see now. Right right Anyway, We were speaking of barbs and dks "almost" hitting like a bd, and not about how much damage they can reach. So yea about the 900 dmg barb (even more if you inspect vla) but "hitting like a bd" is another story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bdsc 41 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 33 minutes ago, Higgings said: Owww I see now. Right right Anyway, We were speaking of barbs and dks "almost" hitting like a bd, and not about how much damage they can reach. So yea about the 900 dmg barb (even more if you inspect vla) but "hitting like a bd" is another story True How many barbs dk or even rogues who hit 1.5k+ ? Leeon Muller 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeon Muller 17 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 3 hours ago, Man said: Ok almost like a bd want it with numbers ? Bd full +10 with awards is 1200 dmg barb same amp at 900 with one hand so isnt same ? Dealing damage is NOT the same as having damage There are many parts which invole to dealing damage such as ferocity and penetration. If you still don't t get this then I am truly sorry for you that you avoide facts. Just make a video and don't throw random half true stories in here. Ps: I still agree with you. Make dk skill passive like you said that it should be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man 12 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 10 hours ago, Higgings said: Mmm no? Barb hits 900 dmg. Is he hitting a +5 pvp tank? I guess u know that all eu server barbs have over 26% pene so yah they hit equal to bd with 1h and shield imagine how tough that is 10 hours ago, Higgings said: Owww I see now. Right right Anyway, We were speaking of barbs and dks "almost" hitting like a bd, and not about how much damage they can reach. So yea about the 900 dmg barb (even more if you inspect vla) but "hitting like a bd" is another story Glad u bring vla watch elasiri video vla was damaging him 500 while elasir doing 700 so 200 difference on barb while barb with 1h only so barb dk are broken and you know it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man 12 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 7 hours ago, Leeon Muller said: Dealing damage is NOT the same as having damage There are many parts which invole to dealing damage such as ferocity and penetration. If you still don't t get this then I am truly sorry for you that you avoide facts. Just make a video and don't throw random half true stories in here. Ps: I still agree with you. Make dk skill passive like you said that it should be Yah barbs with 26% pene is like 90% of eu barbs and they deal almost the same dmg of bd video about it is at elasiri vs vladeath video go watch it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgings 1824 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 22 minutes ago, Man said: I guess u know that all eu server barbs have over 26% pene so yah they hit equal to bd with 1h and shield imagine how tough that is And I guess you saw each one's build, one by one. Secondly, "26%" penetration + 38% ~ ferocity (Since I guess you know every barb or the majority of them uses a normal dmg crystal and not a fero one) compared to a +26% pene + 38% ~ ferocity + 40% from power of blades. Please, tell me again how those shielded chars hit like a bd. 22 minutes ago, Man said: Glad u bring vla watch elasiri video vla was damaging him 500 while elasir doing 700 so 200 difference on barb while barb with 1h only so barb dk are broken and you know it You talk to yourself in 3rd person? '-' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeon Muller 17 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Man said: Yah barbs with 26% pene is like 90% of eu barbs and they deal almost the same dmg of bd video about it is at elasiri vs vladeath video go watch it So as I can see your arguments get more and more weird and are based on wrong facts up to lies. I did some research of myself since you have included vladeath Vladeath vs Vavavavi both are maxed amped and got guild buffs until pvl 8 which includes penetration Vladeath basic skill dmg 497 Vavavi : 971 Vlad normal damage: 387 Vavavi normal damage: 795 So lets sum it up Vladeath: 387. Vavavi: 795 Skill. 497. 971 Differnces: Barb gets hit 105% damage more And deals 105% less Meaning: Barb : You are a tank who gets hitted over 105% more and hit TWICE as less Bd: You hit more and get less hitted Hitting the same? @Man i guess not Edited September 21, 2018 by Leeon Muller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle 198 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Dks need massive buff after this update there PVE Shit now cant even solo Medusa When all +10 Everything Me and Dkcam Tested It in TP and Kronus and TOS Dk Useless now. BTW. Add low level gears and Increase Imperials for winning. do the math its less then 1/2 of old rewards even though its half the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man 12 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 4 hours ago, Higgings said: And I guess you saw each one's build, one by one. Secondly, "26%" penetration + 38% ~ ferocity (Since I guess you know every barb or the majority of them uses a normal dmg crystal and not a fero one) compared to a +26% pene + 38% ~ ferocity + 40% from power of blades. Please, tell me again how those shielded chars hit like a bd. U for real ? They use dmg crystal on mace lets say and fero charm on shield same to bd so they both got 45% fero as a tank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man 12 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 4 hours ago, Higgings said: You talk to yourself in 3rd person? '-' Can explain this more? Higgings 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man 12 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Leeon Muller said: So as I can see your arguments get more and more weird and are based on wrong facts up to lies. I did some research of myself since you have included vladeath Vladeath vs Vavavavi both are maxed amped and got guild buffs until pvl 8 which includes penetration Vladeath basic skill dmg 497 Vavavi : 971 Vlad normal damage: 387 Vavavi normal damage: 795 So lets sum it up Vladeath: 387. Vavavi: 795 Skill. 497. 971 Differnces: Barb gets hit 205% damage more And deals 205% less Meaning: Barb : You are a tank who gets hitted over 205% more and hit TWICE as less Bd: You hit more and get less hitted Hitting the same? @Man i guess not Why u compare vla to vava ? Vava has full set reward ofc he get 50% resi im telling you compare vla hit to ela hit which is almost the same go look again son P.S Vava has sap at lvl5 so that's why do more research its not enough Edited September 21, 2018 by Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgings 1824 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 24 minutes ago, Man said: U for real ? They use dmg crystal on mace lets say and fero charm on shield same to bd so they both got 45% fero as a tank They get 40.6% if great charm. Bet you are considering the Ferocity skill, otherwise Idk how you come up with 45%. Skill which you include as "normal", obviously. And for that you're saying that a Barb or a Dk deals as much damage as a Bladedancer, which has the help of several more passive statistics. Okay Ela, no point to carry on. You're clearly trolling there and am kinda tired to explain the obvious. Leeon Muller 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeon Muller 17 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Man said: U for real ? They use dmg crystal on mace lets say and fero charm on shield same to bd so they both got 45% fero as a tank Look what your friend told you as well 1 hour ago, Higgings said: They get 40.6% if great charm. Bet you are considering the Ferocity skill, otherwise Idk how you come up with 45%. Skill which you include as "normal", obviously. And for that you're saying that a Barb or a Dk deals as much damage as a Bladedancer, which has the help of several more passive statistics. Okay Ela, no point to carry on. You're clearly trolling there and am kinda tired to explain the obvious. He can't face the facts it's simple Edited September 22, 2018 by Leeon Muller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeon Muller 17 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Man said: Why u compare vla to vava ? Vava has full set reward ofc he get 50% resi im telling you compare vla hit to ela hit which is almost the same go look again son P.S Vava has sap at lvl5 so that's why do more research its not enough As you said i have and look at this Elasiribd normal damage 677 Vladeath normal damage 330 Vladeath. 330 Elasiribd. 677 Without guild buffs = ELASIRIBD 105% MORE DAMAGE @Man I got the same result which means #Facts And like your friend said: he low dmg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buudbd 298 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Spoiler elfs and ela again fighting for vladeath? It's already a boring conversation! Visco Ci and wuili 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aks 26 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 On Sat Sep 22 2018 at 5:02 AM, Man said: Can explain this more? Why dont u make barb and do ur so called 900 hyothetical damage on bd with similar equipment? That will be much better then your hypothetical argument Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man 12 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 28 minutes ago, aks said: Why dont u make barb and do ur so called 900 hyothetical damage on bd with similar equipment? That will be much better then your hypothetical argument No need just go eu server mc side and inspect vladeath . P.S Dnt be shocked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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