Kingsnow 0 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 warden is not enought strongest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kunnat 4 Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 i think just add cd time after warden got hp from block its rip for war, mage barier too need to remake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lashabi 123 Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Warden are there where they should be...there is no need to nerf them P.S. - I am not elf player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish 37 Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 If anything they deserve a buff or revert the last nerf atleast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabnecro 304 Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Devs fail to see 1 step ahead of their noses. Warden became broken after developers decided to buff the block status (now blocking dot skills). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raislin 337 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Wardens are just fine where they are. 1 full +10 warden (With proper gear setup) can take on 3 full +10 barbs and win. I dont see any problem with the class lol. Against ranged classes they have a harder time and anything not full +10 without decent resi/block/50% fero isnt good in pvp at all. For pve they are just fine imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacksinga 0 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) warden need nerf. server us many warden over def , can heal constan , not die in town and quikly kill like assasin . wht the hell !! Edited June 27, 2018 by blacksinga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladiator 1145 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 On 6/25/2018 at 8:53 AM, Raislin said: Wardens are just fine where they are. 1 full +10 warden (With proper gear setup) can take on 3 full +10 barbs and win. I dont see any problem with the class lol. Against ranged classes they have a harder time and anything not full +10 without decent resi/block/50% fero isnt good in pvp at all. For pve they are just fine imo. Those must be some really terrible barbs, because as far as I know, Wardens can barely reach 400 damage with maxed defense, which they definitely need to tank anyone with +10 ferocity weapon, while they're trying so hard to drop his HP below 80% hitting less than 200 and completely get dominated by stuns (from a barb in your example). I can bet on whatever that Warden can't kill any 2 good players of his amp, maybe they can't kill him but he also can't kill anyone. The only way nerfing Warden's defense is justified is to buff his damage and stuns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raislin 337 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, Gladiator said: Those must be some really terrible barbs, because as far as I know, Wardens can barely reach 400 damage with maxed defense, which they definitely need to tank anyone with +10 ferocity weapon, while they're trying so hard to drop his HP below 80% hitting less than 200 and completely get dominated by stuns (from a barb in your example). I can bet on whatever that Warden can't kill any 2 good players of his amp, maybe they can't kill him but he also can't kill anyone. The only way nerfing Warden's defense is justified is to buff his damage and stuns. https://db.warspear.pp.ua/calc/en/18530 This is his current gear he has on the warden with guild buffs. i quess with forti active his damage would be just over 400. On top of that he has def book, hp book and obviously resi book also arena hp buff from top 10(them sweet block heals). He is also a highly skilled player. (He's the reason eu got first kill of rottung air out of all the servers right after release lol) While the barbs in question arent best at all and the probably lost because they hit him less than 150 and are full pene which is half useless against wardens since they got forti and fairly low mana regen with high energy. (most of them have energy on body and cape and they rely on stun cycling with high energy and high pene to kill in one or two stun cycles). Cant say i've ever seen him lose a pvp lol. Edited June 27, 2018 by Raislin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladiator 1145 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Raislin said: https://db.warspear.pp.ua/calc/en/18530 This is his current gear he has on the warden with guild buffs. i quess with forti active his damage would be just over 400. On top of that he has def book, hp book and obviously resi book also arena hp buff from top 10(them sweet block heals). He is also a highly skilled player. (He's the reason eu got first kill of rottung air out of all the servers right after release lol) While the barbs in question arent best at all and the probably lost because they hit him less than 150 and are full pene which is half useless against wardens since they got forti and fairly low mana regen with high energy. (most of them have energy on body and cape and they rely on stun cycling with high energy and high pene to kill in one or two stun cycles). Cant say i've ever seen him lose a pvp lol. I don't think we are talking about 1v1 here. You said he killed 3 +10 barbs, I said they are terrible, and any 2 good player who know how to play won't die to a Warden with 400 damage and basically no stuns and damage skills. Edited June 27, 2018 by Gladiator Omercix 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicarl 0 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Nerf what?the defense?warden is a pure tank(the only in the game atually)and want to nerf the defense,is really funny when a MOUNTAIN CLAN(yes,the clan of the barbarian who have a 5s stun and can beat everyclass on pvp)and a forsaken(yes,the clan who can kill you without you use a single skill,and is really funny how the moderators pay attetion on these crying baby,if you have a good accuracy you can kill a warden without he blocks(i play warden and i'm on level 28)before talk about elfs,think about your classes. and some ppls post the pic of a warden tanking a city,its obvious that warden will tank since low level players with a low accuracy is making he block and heal,just think about this,and a warden can kill 3 barb?ROFL!warden kill NOTHING on pvp,these barbarians are using gears?barbarian is the cancer of the game actually,why you dont talk about the 5s stun?and on the same skill 1k DMG.Think about it dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgings 1824 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 7 minutes ago, Vicarl said: and some ppls post the pic of a warden tanking a city,its obvious that warden will tank since low level players with a low accuracy is making he block and heal Nah, block statistic is not affected by Accuracy in any way. Warden can block chars even with 50% accuracy. Only Dodge is affected by the enemy's accuracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicarl 0 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 No dude,i play warden,when i take a player on arena(or i take a gank)and this player have a good gear i die and block nothing,when a low lv player hit me i block some times,i know what i'm saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgings 1824 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 I know what am talking about too. And, unless they changed something lately, Accuracy does not affect your Block chance. But got your point above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aks 26 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Wardens are op tank used to block u in pvp cant kil in seals. Wardens are being missused as a tank and a best troll class. And see how easy they farm faceless. Play dual with warden, that tank all mobs and kill with another 2018_07_05_16_23_18.mp4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omercix 277 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Faceless is nothing now, they can tank all elm mobs easily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aks 26 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Yes that was just a small example. Most unbalanced class is warden now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaraldine 1 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 On 6/28/2018 at 9:38 AM, Higgings said: Nah, block statistic is not affected by Accuracy in any way. Warden can block chars even with 50% accuracy. Only Dodge is affected by the enemy's accuracy. ni haci amigo tengo 40% preci gracias al buff evento pero wd usa debuff y lo lleva a 0 es una clase totalmente absurda, no se que tanto se quejan... diganme cuando van arena con pergamino y pit hp% llegan a 10k hp solo es dmd con un necro y usar sleep los 7 min d arena ya que no ser puede matar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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