Tamer Ismail 60 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 after playing both ranger and mage i noticed that mage have ethereal barrier skill to help it survive when steal tank from the tanker because of the high dmg they do and also found that samething with ranger soo they added dodge increase with bitterness buffs but still not enough to survive still need something that help ranger to tank for a while untill tanker recollect agro and tank again something that buff def or decrease comming attacks maybe could be added to bitterness other than that dodge thing which its almost useless to most of rangers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaleidoscope 142 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 I think rangers won't get a shield, for balance purposes. While it might help in such situations, all I can say to this is that you should look out for better tanks. Even with aggro at 1/5 (gonna level that up tho) I never had issues keeping the boss on myself. Most tankers forget to use their aggro skills, I've had that happen in parties while playing other classes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godsrange 19 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 3 hours ago, Tamer Ismail said: after playing both ranger and mage i noticed that mage have ethereal barrier skill to help it survive when steal tank from the tanker because of the high dmg they do and also found that samething with ranger soo they added dodge increase with bitterness buffs but still not enough to survive still need something that help ranger to tank for a while untill tanker recollect agro and tank again something that buff def or decrease comming attacks maybe could be added to bitterness other than that dodge thing which its almost useless to most of rangers "Could be added to bitterness other than that dodge thing" Developers and Administrators yet again Fail to fix The problem with a skill 99% of the ranger class DO NOT USE. They misinterpreted the description and Shouldn't take Counters away If you have been Damaged. Getting counters past 3 is impossible during any interactions with Monster and players. Therefore that skill is dismissed. Developers will pay no attention to it and that's the biggest problem with "Bitterness". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mastervid 0 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 34 minutes ago, Godsrange said: "Could be added to bitterness other than that dodge thing" Developers and Administrators yet again Fail to fix The problem with a skill 99% of the ranger class DO NOT USE. They misinterpreted the description and Shouldn't take Counters away If you have been Damaged. Getting counters past 3 is impossible during any interactions with Monster and players. Therefore that skill is dismissed. Developers will pay no attention to it and that's the biggest problem with "Bitterness". Maybe 99% of ranger class will use "bitterness" if it stacks wont fall down when u got damaged from monster or player.But dev think that as long as the skill exist its fine even if no one is using it .-. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjaminbt 324 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 Unfortunately it is possible that you deal a lot of damage and actually lure the boss away from the tank. It depends on the playing technique of the tank whether this could happen. You cannot blame yourself or the skills of your ranger, but only the tank. Next time, don't bring him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgings 1830 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 I don't think a Ranger should get such buff, honestly, cause a tank cannot do his job. 14 minutes ago, BennyBT said: Next time, don't bring him. That's the right solution, in my opinion. Even cause, if we follow the "Give us a buff cause we take the aggro sometimes" logic, every non tank class should have a Shield buff. Healers cause their healing causes Aggro, and damagers, as you said, cause they may steal a tank's Aggro with their damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamer Ismail 60 Posted November 26, 2017 Author Share Posted November 26, 2017 3 hours ago, Higgings said: I don't think a Ranger should get such buff, honestly, cause a tank cannot do his job. That's the right solution, in my opinion. Even cause, if we follow the "Give us a buff cause we take the aggro sometimes" logic, every non tank class should have a Shield buff. Healers cause their healing causes Aggro, and damagers, as you said, cause they may steal a tank's Aggro with their damage. then should nerf mage 3 hours ago, BennyBT said: Unfortunately it is possible that you deal a lot of damage and actually lure the boss away from the tank. It depends on the playing technique of the tank whether this could happen. You cannot blame yourself or the skills of your ranger, but only the tank. Next time, don't bring him. same as above^^ whjm17 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgings 1830 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 1 minute ago, Tamer Ismail said: then should nerf mage Idk bro I think that mage's Barrier got made cause mages had few defensive skills, and not cause they may take aggro. Rangers, instead, have got plenty of Evasive Skills: Traps, a stun, Cage... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamer Ismail 60 Posted November 26, 2017 Author Share Posted November 26, 2017 Just now, Higgings said: Idk bro I think that mage's Barrier got made cause mages had few defensive skills, and not cause they may take aggro. Rangers, instead, have got plenty of Evasive Skills: Traps, a stun, Cage... trap and cage dont work in pve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgings 1830 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 Just now, Tamer Ismail said: trap and cage dont work in pve But adding that kind of shield would work in PvP too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamer Ismail 60 Posted November 26, 2017 Author Share Posted November 26, 2017 1 minute ago, Higgings said: But adding that kind of shield would work in PvP too. not a shield something like mage sunarmor other than dodge buff some % def and bitterness shouldnt be removed when ranger get dmg as alej said its not even in skill description Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladiator 1171 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 (edited) rangers already solo faceless, what do you want? tank elm? And yes, mage barrier is op. Edited November 26, 2017 by Gladiator whjm17 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjaminbt 324 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 6 hours ago, Gladiator said: rangers already solo faceless, what do you want? tank elm? And yes, mage barrier is op. Technically any class can solo bosses if totally maxed out. When talking about skills and builds, let's not talk about amplified, maxed characters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimkaa 55 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 3 hours ago, BennyBT said: Technically any class can solo bosses if totally maxed out. When talking about skills and builds, let's not talk about amplified, maxed characters. Try face with rogue whjm17 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjaminbt 324 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 5 hours ago, kimkaa said: Try face with rogue I said technically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimkaa 55 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 36 minutes ago, BennyBT said: I said technically. It's technically impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aglaophotis 35 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 (edited) Imo rangers needs a bit of love from devs. They got stronger along expert, but not strong as some other class (mages for exemple has been brought back thanks to expert) Edited November 28, 2017 by Aglaophotis Tamer Ismail 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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