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Okay so I've always played as a rogue and loved it but now a days rogue is like worst char. Almost if not every other class has atleast 1 stun skill .. rogue only has gouge which isn't even a stun considering if you hit the player the gouge goes away. Please please give us atleast one stun skill .. I play for pvp and I can't even get a hit in because the stuns from pally and other classes are way to op . If can't give us stun skill can you at least nerf other classes?

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It's a normal average char. Well average, you can go invisible which is something no one else can do x.x Gouge is a stun and if you don't consider it as a stun because of the reason you stated then the druids forrest song isn't a stun as well.

 

Not everything about this game is pvp and if you can't beat other classes, bring your friends to help you to kill them. Or are you one of those people "my class has to be able to kill all other classes"?

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Agree... but it's also true that rogues wouldn't dislike a little stun.

 

 

Since even Priests have got one :rofl: :rofl:

Edited by Higgings

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rogues can't get stun that would be too OP. game is not only about pvp. rogues are excellent dmgers and if u play arena u aren't weak. with two rogues u can keep one undegouge all time, and 2v1 for the other. u kill him in few secs. U can also go with lock, and rape one when he is stunned.

a stun for rogues would be a plague for game. u would get attacked from nowhere and killed in few seconds during stun duration. how would that be fair?

in arena rogues would use stealth and attack with stun first, and gouge before stun ends to stealth again. would that be fair?

 

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rogues can't get stun that would be too OP. game is not only about pvp. rogues are excellent dmgers and if u play arena u aren't weak. with two rogues u can keep one undegouge all time, and 2v1 for the other. u kill him in few secs. U can also go with lock, and rape one when he is stunned.

a stun for rogues would be a plague for game. u would get attacked from nowhere and killed in few seconds during stun duration. how would that be fair?

in arena rogues would use stealth and attack with stun first, and gouge before stun ends to stealth again. would that be fair?

If your not +8 and above don't even breathe about Arena nor pvp. Rogues suck in both. Your caught out of stealth your dead.

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If your not +8 and above don't even breathe about Arena nor pvp. Rogues suck in both. Your caught out of stealth your dead.

That's why you're not supposed to run toward the enemy right away. While in stealth try to foresee

typical moves like AoEs or BD rush. At high lvl stealth should last long enough.

 

It might not always work, but it's definitely better than the classy tactic every rogue is using.

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since wardens came out, rogues are officially weaker than rangers. Good job devs, i really like seeing balance in this game where a 1k dmg rogue with 30% ferocity hits a warden at melee range for less than 300 hp. The warden then stuns them, blocks a few attacks, not only is the warden back up to full max hp of 7000, but the rogue has just given up and logged off because of the pure evil and unbalance that wardens bring to the game.

 

im an elf, but seriously

#makeroguesgreatagain

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Rogue is indeed the weakest class. And wardens aren't even the problem but try to kill druids with full resi. You will look like a dummy. Now you win pvps with stuns and rogue has none. Every other class has stuns but rogue although many of them have better dmg than rogues.  Now smart people will mention gouge but dont bother. Even warden stuns better.

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Seeker don't have stun and I'm not complaining. My question is, Are y'all making just a PvP rogue? If so, then that's the reason why y'all complain because you rogues only make a nuke build rogue. Rogues with stun will defeat the purpose of what a rogue actually is. I never play an rpg with rogues with stun skill. Go buy a stun weap or relic. Them thing always work. 

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Ahsorry forgot seeker. True they dont have stuns either. They have a shield tho i havent played seeker so cant make a statement about it. But i have full dodge built rogue so no i have tried different builds. Sometimes u get lucky with dodging but still bds and paladins will kill you in 1 stun cycle. And dodge build means lower dmg = cant kill healers

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Rogue used to be good thats why it's popular. Also stealth looks cool. And it was the only damager class on legion side. That doesn't make it good in pvp now.

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4 hours ago, kimkaa said:

Rogue used to be good thats why it's popular. Also stealth looks cool. And it was the only damager class on legion side. That doesn't make it good in pvp now.

 

Ranger was the only damager class on sentinels too and they havent even 1/3 population of rogues, on other topic people from different servers agreed saying it is a dead class now lol. and of course is because people consider them too weak unlike rogue... people would stop playing rogue (even more with new classes release) if they were that bad/frustrating as some people trying to say

 

Rogue is good class on PvP arena, they do have a stun (gouge), wich can make arenas a cake since nobody can tank 2 rogues burst while the other guy is sleeping. Gouge also good 1v1 to do another insane stealth hit. And rogue survivality is kinda strong with passive and dodge build

 

Rogue is just a class that requires a lot of amp to be okay, just like ranger. Im agree they are not the best 1v1 character vs equal amped, but everyone use rogue to gank people wich is weaker than them anyway... 

 

btw im sure highest rogue crit is far from 10K now... even adding resilence and defense to the mix it will still be a lot of burst... (without forget poison dmg and elusive jump combo)

 

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Ranger dmg higher and more stuns what are u talking about. Also elf had mage too. On mc warlock not match for rogue in terms of dmg in pve so basically elves had 2, mc 1. If you think rogue is good in pvp u need to experience it on your own.

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Rogues are basically kite-able class add seeker and warden to them 

In pvp warden isn't to be even considered 

Seeker has shield and rogue got dodge they both good but problem with rogues is that they have to go into combat face to face unlike seeker who can pull his target away from enemy witch is great in 3vs3 or more scenario 

 

Rogues nuke? I bet that 2 rogues can't nuke 5k hp druid before he uses song 

 

Dodge build= less dmg and less resi 

Vs mage and bd with high accuracy it's useless 

Druids fully stun - warlocks - pala - shams - necro - charmer - ranger - hunter 

 

Each one if these classes have at least 2 kiting skills ( not gonna say stuns bcuz some ppl sensitive ) that are dodge proof 

 

Leaves barb dk 

In 3 vs 3 or even 2 vs 2 i will bet on the tanks 

 

In pvp you can't critic you can't nuke 

You get stuned you can't make dmg ( i easily lose vs druid full stun even his hp drop half if i touch him ) 

 

Rogues don't need a stun 

You need anti stun ability so at least you get to hit

like mage's skill

 

Btw you can dodge ham but not rush , you can dodge Some of charmers stuns but not all of them 

 

 

So basically out of 16 class in game you have 50% chance to win vs 3 classes only ( rogues - warden - seeker ) 

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On 31/8/2017 at 10:24 AM, kimkaa said:

Ranger dmg higher and more stuns what are u talking about. Also elf had mage too. On mc warlock not match for rogue in terms of dmg in pve so basically elves had 2, mc 1. If you think rogue is good in pvp u need to experience it on your own.

Rogue has way higher burst than ranger i played both at high lvl & amp for a long time. Warlock is good on tech and they are best class PvP, you starting crying about them too? :fool:

 

I have experience on rogue PvP and they are fine. You probably cant kill top 5 druids/charmers on EU but vs rest classes you can win if you play correctly

4 hours ago, Kitige said:

So basically out of 16 class in game you have 50% chance to win vs 3 classes only ( rogues - warden - seeker ) 

 

Top kek 2017. Get +9/+10 fero weapons or learn to play the class. Maybe ask some tips to Vrillon if you play on EU

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With rogue u can hit once or twice then u will get stunned and end of story. You win pvps with stuns and rogue has none. Dont even mention gouge.. Rogue is good at killing noobs but if the enemy is high amped with a bit of resi and knows how to use his stuns u got no chance. And why did u bring warlock into this?:fool: i did not say they are bad..

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4 hours ago, koszpl said:

Top kek 2017. Get +9/+10 fero weapons or learn to play the class. Maybe ask some tips to Vrillon if you play on EU

 I play rogue as main since first Halloween with stun wep 

 

 991 dmg rogue with 45-50% fero still lose vs druid and He is not even in top 5 druid  

 

Ask anyone who play rogue and they won't rank rogue in top 5 Classes in game 

 

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Learn to play your class.. How come other +10 rogues can beat other classes and you cant? Maybe there is something more to the game than just pressing buttons in an order. And as said many times, this game is not designed for 1v1s. 2 rogues can still nuke most classes in arena.

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I think rogue has a lot of useless skills for pvp like absolute reflexes, they nerfed it and now its useless for pve and pvp. Ricochet and sinister strike are good for pve but for pvp ricochet  can disturb you to get invisible again, flury of steel can be the worst skill in the game 95% of rogues dont have it, and if they have they dont use. Extermination is good in 3/4 4/4 u can go invisible in 6 secs and merciless get 4.6 secs , gouge gets 15.4 secs in 3/4, in 4/4 its awesome. Gms should improve some rogue skills like reflexes, I think, it was like bds counterattack they nerfed, made it useless and now improve it.:biggrin:

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If you don't like absolute reflexes as is on behalf of all seekers probably, we'll gladly accept :D

As far as a stun goes you have the option of using stun weapons and/or stun relics and potions, sure that's at the cost of the insane amount of damage rogues get as is with dual axes so seems like a fair trade off if you need a stun.

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1 hour ago, Winter said:

If you don't like absolute reflexes as is on behalf of all seekers probably, we'll gladly accept :D

As far as a stun goes you have the option of using stun weapons and/or stun relics and potions, sure that's at the cost of the insane amount of damage rogues get as is with dual axes so seems like a fair trade off if you need a stun.

 

Bds have both :cat2: and dodge too 

Still want to talk about fair trade?

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You can easily avoid most of bds main attacks i.e. flash and hamstring, just adjust your build and most bds are all life steal.

Edited by Winter

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On 3/2/2017 at 11:42 AM, Pecleb said:

rogues can't get stun that would be too OP. game is not only about pvp. rogues are excellent dmgers and if u play arena u aren't weak. with two rogues u can keep one undegouge all time, and 2v1 for the other. u kill him in few secs. U can also go with lock, and rape one when he is stunned.

a stun for rogues would be a plague for game. u would get attacked from nowhere and killed in few seconds during stun duration. how would that be fair?

in arena rogues would use stealth and attack with stun first, and gouge before stun ends to stealth again. would that be fair?

 

So are you basically saying that it would be unfair for rogue to have the ability to stunlock and kill you in a few seconds but it’s okay for other classes to stunlock and kill you in a few seconds?

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