skizoskilz 17 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 No that's why I said a nerf was okay, but a nerf that basically makes all bds feeling lkee dropping the ski? Same with power of blades, I know a few and myself who really don't know which skills to use and which to drop because they all seem equally to be rubbish now, in a wayWhy do you think bds get nerfed Jul? Because u need - pardon me - brain to play on it? Why do you think most of elfs have a bd? Now maybe you will need a brain in order to build your class, before was absolutely rubish, 5/6k dmg in one combo, that's not how an old and pro player would play... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logrimy 70 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Shaman skill in my opinioni isn't good: Max ho buff is ok...but low instant heal is useless at Now. And cd...120 sec...lol Fix that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgana 780 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Why do you think bds get nerfed Jul? Because u need - pardon me - brain to play on it? Why do tou thDo you ignore it on purpose? That I said I'm fine with bds having a nerf, just not that huge. It's totally fine to me that power of blades only influences basic damage, but to remove it as passive skill made it weak, since it only influences basic dmg.Counter strikes increased cooldown is absolutely fine with me too, but to only strike the received damage back and that that damage is getting weakened by the enemies defense after all, it made it a weak skill too, since the chance to strike back was incredibly low already bld 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REAPER 110 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 ok, this might sound funny, but power of blades has become active skill? how did i miss that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skizoskilz 17 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Do you ignore it on purpose? That I said I'm fine with bds having a nerf, just not that huge. It's totally fine to me that power of blades only influences basic damage, but to remove it as passive skill made it weak, since it only influences basic dmg. Counter strikes increased cooldown is absolutely fine with me too, but to only strike the received damage back and that that damage is getting weakened by the enemies defense after all, it made it a weak skill too, since the chance to strike back was incredibly low already I think is fine as it is, shaman shield doesn't work different though... Like BD's counter... But idk, we'll see in game how this will improve pvp and pve.. Morgana 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erta06 25 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 (edited) server test is under maintenance... Edited September 15, 2016 by Erta06 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgana 780 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 I think is fine as it is, shaman shield doesn't work different though... Like BD's counter... But idk, we'll see in game how this will improve pvp and pve.. Yes, let's see :3 skizoskilz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_Munk 770 Posted September 15, 2016 Author Share Posted September 15, 2016 I've seen several shamans complaining about. If the skill doesnt work this way, you just gave us a Trojan horse It's either me or some of you, guys, did not understand me. Can you specify? ColdFootedMole 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jzargo 256 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 rekt those stubborn shamans Peter.........jk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lallouss 854 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Another trash skill for Paladin. I don't think Paladins can get any trasher. Trashest class. *preparing for a new rant* Call nerfed raduis husss dont tell palas let them figure it out, we will tell them than banner wont disappear only Illumination damages everyone (devs: we should have done this from start but where is the fun in that? Lets make palas suffer searching 10% of arinar for undead players/mobs) Lets not forget about the new skill oh no oh no guyz lets talk about it shall we start: 2%def/lvl so at lvl4 it gives 8%def thats not bad but not good also. Lets say u got 5khp so it protects u from around 400dmg or so yey thats awesome IF AND ONLY IF It wasnt freaking 90second cooldown o.o and lasts only 45second at lvl4 the other 45second u go watch anime But wait there is more dont stop reading please let us continue ^^ if ur paladin is not in party and u use that skill u get 0%def buff wouhou thats amazing I meam its oki there is other skills also requires party but for this low % and this high cd and only can be used if u have a friend with u? I mean i dnt mind no prob ill stay in party forever but at least lower the cd or make it last longer Fyi its same as shaman earth protection exactly the same bug a nubber version of it, longer cd, less effective, last less time, can be used as aura only and in party only Devs doomed paladin into making him a walking status buffer.. *Meme incoming soon* ColdFootedMole, jrkill, graybeardx and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelvzs 45 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 (edited) By the way Mr.Peter,Is rogue skill "Poisonous Blade" only can be used once now, not anymore time based? or its bugged.. Cause at the skill it doenst say anything change about poison,, Only said poison can be applied with skill, not only basic attack. Edited September 15, 2016 by Kelvzs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgana 780 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Lawls Elie if you are going to use that in a pvp with a party member :v people gonna start complaiming about 2 vs 1 like it used to be with link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja 82 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Shaman new skill: Instantly heals a fixed amount and increases max hp for some time Cooldown 120sec On a sham lvl 26 (magic dmg doesn't matter): Heal HP Duration 267 +14.4% 30s 356 +19.2% 45s 445 +24.0% 60s 534 +28.8% 90s Omercix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdFootedMole 29 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 (edited) necro has an expert that gives ONLY physical damage. necro use magic damage. it is useless for all casters in party. maybe you never invite shaman and warlock. oh! xD haha no, i tested on my necro, and it raises my dmg too. i thought you meant it should only raise magic dmg and not physical It wasnt freaking 90second cooldown o.o and lasts only 45second at lvl4 the other 45second u go watch anime lmao xDDD dying of laughter here Edited September 15, 2016 by ColdFootedMole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keslerrrr 42 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Mage Blinding Fire Skill When we use "Blinding Fire" on the Test Server, skill only effects his area not the enemy. I thought this would be better; When we use this skill it would be hit the enemy and his area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigsaw-PZ 107 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Call nerfed raduis husss dont tell palas let them figure it out, we will tell them than banner wont disappear only Illumination damages everyone (devs: we should have done this from start but where is the fun in that? Lets make palas suffer searching 10% of arinar for undead players/mobs) Lets not forget about the new skill oh no oh no guyz lets talk about it shall we start: 2%def/lvl so at lvl4 it gives 8%def thats not bad but not good also. Lets say u got 5khp so it protects u from around 400dmg or so yey thats awesome IF AND ONLY IF It wasnt freaking 90second cooldown o.o and lasts only 45second at lvl4 the other 45second u go watch anime But wait there is more dont stop reading please let us continue ^^ if ur paladin is not in party and u use that skill u get 0%def buff wouhou thats amazing I meam its oki there is other skills also requires party but for this low % and this high cd and only can be used if u have a friend with u? I mean i dnt mind no prob ill stay in party forever but at least lower the cd or make it last longer Fyi its same as shaman earth protection exactly the same bug a nubber version of it, longer cd, less effective, last less time, can be used as aura only and in party only Devs doomed paladin into making him a walking status buffer.. *Meme incoming soon* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja 82 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Someone please share dk new skill stats...m On dk26 750dmg I measured (approx): New DK skill Lvl Dmg Def Duration 1/4 +9% +1% 5sec? 2/4 +13.3% +2% 15sec? 3/4 +17.9% +3% 30sec 4/4 +26.7% +4% 45sec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrkill 0 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 (edited) Call nerfed raduis husss dont tell palas let them figure it out, we will tell them than banner wont disappear only Illumination damages everyone (devs: we should have done this from start but where is the fun in that? Lets make palas suffer searching 10% of arinar for undead players/mobs) Lets not forget about the new skill oh no oh no guyz lets talk about it shall we start: 2%def/lvl so at lvl4 it gives 8%def thats not bad but not good also. Lets say u got 5khp so it protects u from around 400dmg or so yey thats awesome IF AND ONLY IF It wasnt freaking 90second cooldown o.o and lasts only 45second at lvl4 the other 45second u go watch anime But wait there is more dont stop reading please let us continue ^^ if ur paladin is not in party and u use that skill u get 0%def buff wouhou thats amazing I meam its oki there is other skills also requires party but for this low % and this high cd and only can be used if u have a friend with u? I mean i dnt mind no prob ill stay in party forever but at least lower the cd or make it last longer Fyi its same as shaman earth protection exactly the same bug a nubber version of it, longer cd, less effective, last less time, can be used as aura only and in party only Devs doomed paladin into making him a walking status buffer.. *Meme incoming soon* Edited September 15, 2016 by jrkill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fkmcsdruid 17 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Good players don't get mad lol im coming back do to bds getting counter fix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja 82 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 I think DK skill is bugged/op at 4/4: Dmg increased from 749 to 949 for 45sec (CD 60sec) With some cdr dk gets +26.7% dmg almost full time Omercix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lallouss 854 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 On dk26 750dmg I measured (approx): New DK skill Lvl Dmg Def Duration 1/4 +9% +1% 5sec? 2/4 +13.3% +2% 15sec? 3/4 +17.9% +3% 30sec 4/4 +26.7% +4% 45sec Thats ridiculous 26%dmg and 4%def for 45sec xD lel whats the cd of the skill? Me and friend paladin +9 couldnt kill a dk in arena, we doubled ganked killed the necro but the dk soloed us like toys if only we didnt kite him and healed each other to win, he kept sucking hp and getting 0dmg on him from darkshield o.o Here we go thats my meme Erta06, Omercix, Higgings and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fkmcsdruid 17 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 (edited) i love the new inprovments ty i see alot of balance, most people dont see it bcuz they talking about one char, but game its about everyone, not just one players, ty devs ones again i think game its coming back to normal ty Edited September 15, 2016 by fkmcsdruid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fkmcsdruid 17 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 (edited) Thats ridiculous 26%dmg and 4%def for 45sec xD lel whats the cd of the skill? Me and friend paladin +9 couldnt kill a dk in arena, we doubled ganked killed the necro but the dk soloed us like toys if only we didnt kite him and healed each other to win, he kept sucking hp and getting 0dmg on him from darkshield o.o Screenshot_2016-09-15-20-55-23.png Here we go thats my meme omg lol stop crying about dks dks are tank and yes a 10+ dk will be hard to kill wy!!!bcuz there tanks can take alot of damage ,dk dont cant kill bds or any magic players wy cuz they kite alot dk are punching bags but like i say game its balance i see all the inprovments they look good so far nothimg to say about new balance i may come back as a shamy Edited September 15, 2016 by fkmcsdruid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jzargo 256 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 i love the new inprovments ty i see alot of balance, most people dont see it bcuz they talking about one char, but game its about everyone, not just one players, ty devs ones again i think game its coming back to normal ty Everyone become wise after BD get nerfed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgings 1824 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Hey let dk enjoy his new skill! (/'-')/ Omercix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logrimy 70 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 (edited) It's either me or some of you, guys, did not understand me. Can you specify? The point is...you write" replace full hp"and at now hp replaced is 260...this is why...lol Edited September 15, 2016 by Logrimy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladiator 1145 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 (edited) Dk skill has 60 cd and lasts 45 secs and 25% dmg buff? Lel. Don't even get me started on Barbs lol, they are harder to kill than bosses, you can't even stun them, like they needed a def skill after stone skin? So basically punish Paladins for being supporters by giving them trash def skills like Sacred Shield and new the skill, that don't even support good because of the low efficiency with the ridiculously high cd. And what really grinds my gears, some people calling us out for "crying", come play Pala and see what we go through. Edited September 15, 2016 by Gladiator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabnecro 304 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Yes, DK skill is strong, but it's nothing compared to Blade Dancer permanent 20%+ damage from power of blades. Good thing this crap got nerfed and transformed into a active skill. Omercix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprememan 22 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 (edited) Dk skill has 60 cd and lasts 45 secs and 25% dmg buff? Lel. Don't even get me started on Barbs lol, they are harder to kill than bosses, you can't even stun them, like they needed a def skill after stone skin? New skill has long cd (60sec) and only good for a few seconds at lv4. Besides that, timing it perfectly is tough. Basically its worthless out of arena and pointless to level up to 4. Edited September 15, 2016 by Suprememan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lallouss 854 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 omg lol stop crying about dks dks are tank and yes a 10+ dk will be hard to kill wy!!!bcuz there tanks can take alot of damage ,dk dont cant kill bds or any magic players wy cuz they kite alot dk are punching bags but like i say game its balance i see all the inprovments they look good so far nothimg to say about new balance i may come back as a shamy As Gladiator said... Play as a paladin than tell us not to complain OwO U said dk weak vs magic players, last time i checked paladins are magic players, get ur facts right m8 $.$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mailliwdxb 86 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Thank you devs it's a comparatively good skill update Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja 82 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 DK is supposed to tank, not to deal dmg Imho the new skill should give more def (+10-30%) and less dmg As of now its a stronger version of BD's pow of blades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mailliwdxb 86 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 yes a skill that requires 4/4 to be useful needs a nerf while a class revolves around stun in pvp or satu hurricane in pve idiots..dont nerf other classes if you havent played them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakumy 4 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 DK é suposto tanque, não para lidar dmg Imho a nova habilidade deve dar mais def (+ 10-30%) e menos dmg A partir de agora é uma versão mais forte do pow de lâminas de BD Talk about nerf in Rogues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mailliwdxb 86 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 'OMG i saw the number 25% and i jizz hate on dk' no we cant couple that with a constant 1k damage output on hit (counter) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damg0n 0 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Where test servers will aviable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lallouss 854 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 yes a skill that requires 4/4 to be useful needs a nerf while a class revolves around stun in pvp or satu hurricane in pve idiots..dont nerf other classes if you havent played them Ninja got those statistics by playing dk, he told u its better version than power of blades which everyone cried on fixing it, even at 4/4 pow of bd is less than 4/4 dk skill I agree with Ninja should be given more defence than damage nabnecro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erta06 25 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Thats ridiculous 26%dmg and 4%def for 45sec xD lel whats the cd of the skill? Me and friend paladin +9 couldnt kill a dk in arena, we doubled ganked killed the necro but the dk soloed us like toys if only we didnt kite him and healed each other to win, he kept sucking hp and getting 0dmg on him from darkshield o.o Screenshot_2016-09-15-20-55-23.png Here we go thats my meme yes pala is a real tank a real tank of water. ColdFootedMole, Gladiator and Erta06 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mailliwdxb 86 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 (edited) why was blades passive given a nerf? when a dual wield char with a on hit nuke was given it why was dk given this skill? because we dont have a straight physical damage skill other than hurricane tell me how im supposed to get bosses during farms i might listen to your opinion after Edited September 15, 2016 by mailliwdxb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakumy 4 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Where test servers will aviable? I would like to know too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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