REAPER 110 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 The main question is: How to avoid bd counter? here you go: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_Munk 770 Posted September 13, 2016 Author Share Posted September 13, 2016 This will be a hell of an Update Main question, when the Servers are up xD i knowbthere exists a topic about Server times but pls busy work work work Already up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mailliwdxb 86 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 You know, between all nice forum members you are reaaally awesome at least your opinion. LISTEN TO THIS ONE PLEASE You used a bad example Just say that a class is op only based on perspective.... Every class seems to have a counter balance class... For example... I can beat almost every single person viewing this topic in a pvp.. But that doesn't necessarily mean dks are op eh? Admitting the fact that bd requires a minor nerf.. I don't think they should change counter strike's damage... Maybe ham duration or something of the sorts since its a pvp skill anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akasha 2058 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 correcting; how hp can help against OP/full stun classes (basically all classes now)? it needs to be a decent percentage which could be used several time during PvP, or this will remind the "last wish" of barbarians, "a skill for when you're already doomed to die" -.- There are no final numbers yet, sadly As for now - vanilla character (28 lvl, no equipment, 69 mag. damage, 1st level of skill) gives around 300 bonus hp. I made by myself corrections in my previous post for a better explanation.. and Ty very much Peter ! Now I presume an approximate percentage.. it was quite enlightening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logrimy 70 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 I see BOTH faction talk about bd....we are all' Crazy? if 3 ppl don't see the evidente....Who don't undestand? You First talk about no 1v1 game....and you agree who talk only based on 1v1...lol I want see the skill fix becouse some need to change for see a balanced game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgana 780 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 It's senseless to further try to explain what I was trying to say with my previous post :/ I just hope someday you will understand and stop whining because it doesn't really matter which class you are facing, in the end every class will be OP at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjaminbt 325 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Skill fix? I honestly didn't read about any skill fix in the announcement. Maybe the preview will include the changelog? Sorry if this was already answered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poiofrito 14 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 No why would I? I pvped on Priest Druid BD...there is no difference if I pvp a Druid or BD with a Priest/Shaman/Necro/Rogue etc. because in all cases the "problem classes" are bd and druid.Maszbayy is shaman, and i main lock. We complaining about balance means. True all classes has trouble with druids and bds, beacuse they arent balanced. Tank class getting dmger skills and healer class has too many heals skills&crowd skills. Try tovplay with shaman against bd or druid, pr lock against bd or druid if u can. U will understand us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mailliwdxb 86 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 If bd gets a nerf Heal/fire totem Reflex Stone skin Song Deserve a nerf... You want balance? Don't start with one class only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgana 780 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Maszbayy is shaman, and i main lock. We complaining about balance means. True all classes has trouble with druids and bds, beacuse they arent balanced. Tank class getting dmger skills and healer class has too many heals skills&crowd skills. Try tovplay with shaman against bd or druid, pr lock against bd or druid if u can. U will understand usAnd I as Druid, Bd and Priest say we all have our problems with Warlocks, Shamans Necros and Rogues. I understand you but guys, you should understand too. Those opness is depending on both sides. What legion players think about sentinel classes is exactly the same what sentinels think about legion classes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logrimy 70 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 I never complain about Nerf of shaman skill...you no read my post about that....all skill Can change for balance.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mailliwdxb 86 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 (edited) Balance for what? You're a pve shaman forgot? Stop fighting +10 bds with pve gear Edited September 13, 2016 by mailliwdxb ColdFootedMole 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimkaa 55 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 If bd gets a nerf Heal/fire totem Reflex Stone skin Song Deserve a nerf... You want balance? Don't start with one class only Don't forget silence then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixdog 9 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Only thing I will say is necromancers need more heals. Only healer-class with one heal skill. ty that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mailliwdxb 86 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Don't forget silence then Yes a pvp skill.. Dont forget about it ... Look at all the skills i named again :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mailliwdxb 86 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Comnub you're not full +10 weak nub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Usama Tayyab 7 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Dk/bqrb can easily win against bd if they spam stunt skill and gotbhigh cd......xblackskyx-us sapphire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mailliwdxb 86 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Who's those blacksky person?... Let me fight him without armour ..... Won't even need effort :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimkaa 55 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Yes a pvp skill.. Dont forget about it ... Look at all the skills i named again :3 Silence is good against bosses too tho I remember you could make boss inable to use skills so that tanking was easier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjaminbt 325 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Barbarian's skill means it gets immune to any debuffs, any skills? Like hamstring for example? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logrimy 70 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Balance for what? You're a pve shaman forgot? Stop fighting +10 bds with pve gear Yes, i srop pvp when i look sone broken class...but np i no Need pvp set for beat weak noob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moldark 7 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 It seems that necro skill is good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firemastar 6 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 where i can get test server link ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgings 1824 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 When will the update be released? Maybe i missed it somewhere, people are screaming loudly here! Can't hear anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjaminbt 325 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja 82 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 I can beat almost every single person viewing this topic in a pvp.. Sry couldn't resist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djfromhell 17 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Yey they balance bd finaly! Oh wait! No they dont! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abigor Lince 0 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 good day, I have a question:the new skill warlock only serve against an enemy? if so, it would be the best ability for the brujo contant the new skill Magician and Barbarian.personale what I would have preferred that they had given him the ability Necromancer, because the witch is supposed to have in the statistics ams damage ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alonexpro 3 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Let Me Name whats wrong with this update. First Bds are commenting Trying to make it so there account isnt nerfed and if you say a real oppinion i get banned. So Julie That guy with a cus name in his User name and making more Degrading to a entire community and you love his oppinion but as soon as i post something in another topic u ban me cus i disagree with you? Thought you were better then that your become a Nazi Mod and its disgusting if u were in the pvpcave more id waste mcoins killing you for fun. On a Higher note besides the Corruption Inside the Forum. Shamans Earthqauke is useless make it 5x5 Till it is useful or unleast till u fix disposition bug cus im getting sick of logging out mid pvp TO fix the bug then getting raped by blade dancers and druids. Not one person here should complain about rogues. There a glass cannon After they hit you for 1.5k First hit if u DECENTLY AMPED u will kill in seconds my +9 Rogue kills itself against blade dancer. I was using my arena set and decided to gank a bd lv28 with NO WEAPONS Honestly he killed me with his Fist and Counterstrike and Thats not op? Oh hey i cant even kill a naked bd bd needs another cd and buff skill whooptie do Druids next Complaint Like wow lets make a class that is unbeatable to every class but bd cus they perma stun devs need to realize Druids are invincible if high amped with A Cd set. ive pvped +5 druid and i lose in arena they just run till they spam secret link and kite and stun till they win at all levels 20 and above..... So ya As julie Said druid Invincible but somehow weak? Looks to me she just wants only HER classes to be op someones forum powers got to her head. Shes never played as a shaman or any Mc class for that manner. and even though my shaman same amp as julies druid and bd and higher stats guess what i still get toasted by her in pvp and arena. I agree with Lallous Aoe stun nerf i think max should hold is 3 and qauke should be returned to 5x5 that way it works litterally same way nothing changes but its easier to use.... so whats the problem of fixing a skill that doesnt work in the first place. Rangers well needed this update A stun and dmg skill might level the playing field... still think they need a defence or dodge skill.... But hopefully at 1 it stuns last long and dmg is above ur reg hit cus flame arrow isnt if u account direct hit and not Dps Mage and Barb buff seem op but these were to underrated classes just mages are gona be ridiculious in war sitautions and invincible is all im worried about 6 sec non stun debuff teleport into a army and with area dmg kills everyone then reloads and goes for flag = 10 mages win War. Rogue skill needs to have as much Damage at 1 AS merc as one it shoouldnt be like flurry of steel cus that skill garbage . Ricochet is okay for just dg i think it and flurry should be plausable to be used in stealth. Guess thats it but dont get it twisted i want all classes to be fair and i support what u do and im happy you Put through my agression suggestion i made like a year ago i was sick of lv1s Agroing and evading bosses . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUIZFRL 117 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Nice job AI Grind, waiting for the next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loderdakar 0 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 deveriam trocarte um novo Do mago e Colocar priest e do priest no mago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turkteam 11 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Bd's so strong counter atack = 1800 dmg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jzargo 256 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Peter has incredible patience answering all of this shi...stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprememan 22 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 (edited) Any dev playing Barbarian??? Our skill is based on perfect timing if duration is same as lets say roar. Bd sap parry and counter duration is until full cd. I think as a barbarian myself and always will be since 2011, all we ask for is for our skills to have better success rate. Charge shield bash and warcry all fail. Any other class with such successful rate??? A good AoE dmg skill would of been perfect. All others have them. Anyhow, peace and love from a veteran player Edited September 13, 2016 by Suprememan Alonexpro and benjaminbt 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Targordok 0 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 But tre true question is: WILL BE BARBS FINALLY ABLE TO AGGRO TP WITH THESE CHANGES IN MECHANICHS???? PLEASE ANSWER ME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprememan 22 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Also give us new heavy armor with block. Real tanks aren't dodgers, only bladedancers are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laraib Shuja 0 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Full HP + increased for a period of time. Hell yea no need for necro heal now sham with proper CD will be enough for hunt ☜(˚▽˚)☞ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poiofrito 14 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Bds arend dodgers. Bds tank loghic: if i kill enemy fast, he will not hurt me, so im can be called tank. Dead enemy camt do dmg DarkXLight 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlaacher 3 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 I have another question. When players lets say +7 mayby +8 can do Technopolis dungeon? Never? Ty ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urscrewed 142 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 wow, they seriously decided that ranger deserved a MELEE stun?! nice now we gotta walk up to them XD But i am gonna LOVE the new mage skill 4/4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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