Urscrewed 142 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 (edited) hey guys, i am a ranger, and i play mage sometimes i believe (take note) that the ranger and the mage class are somewhat unbalanced. one may say they have a massive disadvantage in pvp, although they are extremely fun classes to play in pve. every other class a guaranteed 100% stun which can disable skills, and they do not require guesswork, skill, or hardwork to achieve. the simple click of a button is all it takes to launch this cc (crowd control), stun..etc. i propose a new skill set for each character, with an unbiased balancing team to make sure that each variable class can excel in all categories of the game, pve and pvp etc.. this will not take much consideration, aside from the small balance to each class. like make bladedancer less overpowered and a must for dungeons, like rogue with axes and way to much abuse of ferocity and its powerful combination with attack skills. Classes like druid and shaman are a work of art, as i think they provide a different type of gameplay to each class, druid is more of a supporting class, while shamans can be considered battle-shamans i would like to see this type of consideration for each class, with a unique set of skills that are intricate and unique to its setup since you only have one game to manage a well balanced pvp game would attract more customers and cause an obviously higher morale in-game, which is beneficial to us all just my 10 cents Urscrewed, EU Edited September 7, 2016 by Urscrewed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jzargo 256 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 If roland was here, he would replied "what is balance in your prespective?" and this topic will be closed by now by him. Good ol days. Baryon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_Munk 770 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 What is balance in your prespective? Jzargo, Baryon, Dozy and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyzoic 101 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 balance in my perspective? I want draws from every pvp I fight thats balance MCocktail, Fortuno and ColdFootedMole 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoleyKathi 120 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Rolando: This is not a pvp game, if you cant kill a class, call your friends ! Morgana 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgana 780 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Rolando: This is not a pvp game, if you cant kill a class, call your friends ! My favourite comment of alex, forever and always xD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_Munk 770 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 balance in my perspective? I want draws from every pvp I fight thats balance Exactly! Perfectly balanced game would be perfectly boring. Luckily they don't exist. P.S. you can always slaughter a couple of noobs next to the port if you are upset. Morgana, Baryon, ColdFootedMole and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyzoic 101 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Exactly! Perfectly balanced game would be perfectly boring. Luckily they don't exist. P.S. you can always slaughter a couple of noobs next to the port if you are upset. xD Im bored, anyway skills matter mostly, not amps etc, and when youre skilled + +10 amped theres no chance to lose (unless classes where starter wins or enemy gets lucky crits 24/7) just make another class incase you dont like it in pvp I made rogue when I got annoyed to play rogue vs ranger-arena xD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladiator 1145 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 (edited) Lol that Rolando comment doesn't make sense. The game is 50%? PvP based. When you're in arena how are you supposed to "call your friends" against BDs? Edited September 7, 2016 by Gladiator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_Munk 770 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Lol that Rolando comment doesn't make sense. The game is 50%? PvP based. When you're in arena how are you supposed to "call your friends" against BDs? You can BECOME BD Baryon, Kaleidoscope, ColdFootedMole and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaleidoscope 142 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 You can BECOME BD Obvious solution is obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akasha 2058 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Lol that Rolando comment doesn't make sense. The game is 50%? PvP based. When you're in arena how are you supposed to "call your friends" against BDs? they invest in creating battle set, promote arena tournaments and themselves claim that isn't a PvP game to be balanced, now this is all about "who is popular and has the most friends to call"..or who is BD, funny. - Ferocity bonus does not influence the amount of health restored by healing skills. after this change, I started to consider the idea of another game for the future if some adjustments aren't made. btw, you also have this option dear benjaminbt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjaminbt 325 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 (edited) Very interesting opinion. Just... Look at the last massive updates, half of them are about PvP. And they claim this game is not about it. And Peter... draws are not boring. Losing because of unbalance IS boring. (Not complaining, barbarian has it all ) "- Ferocity bonus does not influence the amount of health restored by healing skills." It's just like you said "- Ferocity bonus does not add any bonus to your base damage." Makes no sense. Edited September 7, 2016 by BTminBT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjaminbt 325 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 P.S. you can always slaughter a couple of noobs next to the port if you are upset. By the way, you use "noob" in an incorrect form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logrimy 70 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 (edited) Exactly! Perfectly balanced game would be perfectly boring. Luckily they don't exist. Yes.....but DB kill all is not boring?.... Me like many other player stop doing pvp e reduce soo much play arena Edited September 7, 2016 by Logrimy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight 39 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 And BD and rogue are op Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight 39 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 You can BECOME BD I have an aversion to BD ; which class should I play then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgana 780 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 I have an aversion to BD ; which class should I play then? Rogue. You can sneak away at anytime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladiator 1145 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 You can BECOME BD Then that ain't balance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight 39 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Rogue. You can sneak away at anytime No way; my ranger completely hates rogues So rangers should be op Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0land 1101 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Lol that Rolando comment doesn't make sense. The game is 50%? PvP based. When you're in arena how are you supposed to "call your friends" against BDs? I've actually never told something like this. My point was that 1v1 PvP battles is never a good way to make any conclusions about in-game battle balance. Our PvP system is team based, you should combine classes for a perfect result, nothing more. But no one of those complainers never want to actually PLAY a game, to find out interesting ways of winning as a team, they want to win here and now thinking that forum whining is a good way to start winning. Ok, take your time, you're always welcome. benjaminbt and MCocktail 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjaminbt 325 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 I've actually never told something like this. My point was that 1v1 PvP battles is never a good way to make any conclusions about in-game battle balance. Our PvP system is team based, you should combine classes for a perfect result, nothing more. But no one of those complainers never want to actually PLAY a game, to find out interesting ways of winning as a team, they want to win here and now thinking that forum whining is a good way to start winning. Ok, take your time, you're always welcome. I actually like yer honesty, Sire... Tho I don't think anyone whined here. Not Gladiator nor me or anyone commenting this topic. We simply state something. And you can support or attack the statement, but calling it whining... Well, many other players do in other topics on this forum, but then that particular part of your sentence doesn't really fit here.Good day (or midnight) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urscrewed 142 Posted September 8, 2016 Author Share Posted September 8, 2016 Certainly not whining, you could just call this a convinient yell of rage, for *unbalance* in game, cant beat em? Join em. Well then imagine the entire elf and mc population comprising of bds and rogues respectively, (genius idea) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akasha 2058 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 I've actually never told something like this. My point was that 1v1 PvP battles is never a good way to make any conclusions about in-game battle balance. Our PvP system is team based, you should combine classes for a perfect result, nothing more. I'm glad to read, thanks for clarifying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja 82 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Like me and r0land, most players don't care of 1v1, but some do Vlakiller (best barb EU) deleted after losing vs some bd And he was active+mcoiner, so I agree with this thread title Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jzargo 256 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Wut? vlakiller deleted he must be create new BD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjaminbt 325 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 He deleted it months ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A male 180 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 You can BECOME BD Best solution in every problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabnecro 304 Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 (edited) We get 1v1 is not a valid basis for balancing the game but we have arena, which is a BIG PART of the game and SHOULD be balanced. Telling the players to either stop playing their class and pick Blade Dancer or telling them to call their friends to kill a single Blade Dancer is a lousy excuse to deny your inability to balance out a broken class. I known you guys are tired of listening to this but they have too much survivability and dish out too much damage. Blade Dancer OPness is so alarming the only thing I can take from this is that the very people who develop the game don't play the game themselves. Balancing the game is not about having the exact same class played by all players. It's about giving different classes TOOLS to deal with other classes. And in the state the game is now, no class has tools to overcome Blade Dancers in arena or in war encounters. You developers can deny all you want but people WILL start losing interest in the game because of this lack of balance. It's way worse than Paladin fetters, Necromancer mental pit or druid secret link when they first came out and weren't nerfed. Remember, a unbalanced game is not fun to play. Edited September 9, 2016 by nabnecro Logrimy, benjaminbt, kimkaa and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjaminbt 325 Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Wisdom speaks here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urscrewed 142 Posted September 9, 2016 Author Share Posted September 9, 2016 He speaks the truth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCocktail 183 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 This topic cured my cancer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tung4u 2 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 (edited) @Nab, still talking 1v1 i see. There is no such thing as balance in 1vs1. People like you will never learn on how WS works. Always using BD as your tremendous excuse. Never know why this guy hate this class so much eventhough it got nerfed MANY times. Maybe deleting BD will suffice your lust. BD isn't immortal/invincible, all class can counter BD, it isn't unstoppable, it isn't unstunable, it isn't unCCable and it isn't unsleepable and i think all class have those skills to overcome BD. Edited October 3, 2016 by Tung4u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urscrewed 142 Posted October 3, 2016 Author Share Posted October 3, 2016 feels balanced now :[ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladiator 1145 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabnecro 304 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 BDs received their much deserved nerf. But it's too soon to say the game is balanced, wait until you start seeing druids with duration extend relic (increased root duration) running around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galaxymika 3 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 (edited) BDs received their much deserved nerf. But it's too soon to say the game is balanced, wait until you start seeing druids with duration extend relic (increased root duration) running around. Druids, locks and rogues are most unbalanced classes right now, lock has permanent control, druid permanent stun, rogue dont need it, he just one hits u hue bds always have been ez to kill Edited October 3, 2016 by Galaxymika Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba James Austin 25 Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 (edited) Once this game is balance. It'll be boring and I will quit. Every class will have the same attacks, same defense, same stun, etc... This game if fun because all classes are different and have skill for certain reason. Relics give you the chance to active you dream skill on the class you're using... Edited October 4, 2016 by Buffguyx Headcheese 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tung4u 2 Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Devs really made a smart move by making relics. it may not enough for most people but its a start. Balance is impossible but strategy is possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baryon 56 Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Dont cry anymore! now both bd and rogue is nearly shit but previous so called weak classes (ranger/mage/idk whats weak in mc) have become awesome and more fun to play ! ENJOY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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