SakKiimil 0 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 First, Sorry my english is very bad Paladin Is a tank? I have a paladin, for me is good, but the paladin for me no is a good tank, because the expert skil are unutil. Why? 1.- Illumination: a)In PvP is very bad alone hit fosakens. Mountain clan, chosen and First born are inmune In PvE alone hit ghost and dead npc (no hit a demons) 2.-Sun Seal: a) In PvP: is good In PvE is bad you can have 4/4 but the boss evade the hit, alone can use in normal mobs 3.-Sacred Shild a) In PvP alone is good (2vs2) can protec your team in PvE is bad, example in the lab you active the skill, lost the shild in 3 seconds and need wait 40s for activve again The paladin is the only no have a pasive skill, and are very easy of kill barbarian ignore the damage, dnight recovery health and the Bdancer make more damage one rogue kill me with 2 critital hits, i have 3.5k of life in these moment my shild are active (400), alone active my shild and dead The barbarian hace two skill very good "last wish" "Stone Skin" you are inmune (3 hits), you can´t dead with the last wish during these time you can kill your enemy Blade Dancer he have "counter strike" with this and the high damage he can kill very easy Dead Night have the "Dark shild" with this and life steal you are inmortal example Omercix I want a Pasive for paladin please the paladin is the tank more weaknes. Change Illumination for a Pasive. Paladin What pasive you want? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgana 780 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 (edited) Paladin is an awesome tank, you shouldn't compare its tank abilities with pvp :/ two whole different kinds of sections. A tank class needs always a support class to actually fullfil the definition of a tank. Edited August 30, 2016 by Julie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladiator 1145 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Soooo, how turning Illumination to passive would solve the problem? What could it actually do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SakKiimil 0 Posted August 30, 2016 Author Share Posted August 30, 2016 Soooo, how turning Illumination to passive would solve the problem? What could it actually do? the problem is, illumination is a sh.... of skill, is best change illumination for one pasive or activer but this new ability are for tank o more defence example Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaleidoscope 142 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Soooo, how turning Illumination to passive would solve the problem? What could it actually do? It's just what he wants, he is also asking what other paladins would want for their class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaleidoscope 142 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Paladin is an awesome tank, you shouldn't compare its tank abilities with pvp :/ two whole different kinds of sections. A tank class needs always a support class to actually fullfil the definition of a tank. The point is, compared to other classes he's not as good. And also seems to have skills that need some imporvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urscrewed 142 Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Paladins need some kind of magic shield or something, which was based on their mdmg, similar to dks fifth skill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladiator 1145 Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 the problem is, illumination is a sh.... of skill, is best change illumination for one pasive or activer but this new ability are for tank o more defence example Yeah, but Illumination is bad and it doesn't help with tanking. However, turning Sacred Shield into passive would sound more fair. It could activate by itself every x amount of seconds or hits like mage, but it'd lose its support role. So, I don't mind not having passive, but at least fix those active ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omercix 277 Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 First, Sorry my english is very bad Paladin Is a tank? I have a paladin, for me is good, but the paladin for me no is a good tank, because the expert skil are unutil. Why? 1.- Illumination: a)In PvP is very bad alone hit fosakens. Mountain clan, chosen and First born are inmune In PvE alone hit ghost and dead npc (no hit a demons) 2.-Sun Seal: a) In PvP: is good In PvE is bad you can have 4/4 but the boss evade the hit, alone can use in normal mobs 3.-Sacred Shild a) In PvP alone is good (2vs2) can protec your team in PvE is bad, example in the lab you active the skill, lost the shild in 3 seconds and need wait 40s for activve again The paladin is the only no have a pasive skill, and are very easy of kill barbarian ignore the damage, dnight recovery health and the Bdancer make more damage one rogue kill me with 2 critital hits, i have 3.5k of life in these moment my shild are active (400), alone active my shild and dead The barbarian hace two skill very good "last wish" "Stone Skin" you are inmune (3 hits), you can´t dead with the last wish during these time you can kill your enemy Blade Dancer he have "counter strike" with this and the high damage he can kill very easy Dead Night have the "Dark shild" with this and life steal you are inmortal example Omercix I want a Pasive for paladin please the paladin is the tank more weaknes. Change Illumination for a Pasive. Paladin What pasive you want? "...example Omercix" Ty bro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poiofrito 14 Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Then i think u dunno as well how build pala. Most palas skills has magic dmg as main. And a tank meed a healer for being complete. Look, palas can hesl +1k! In crit, aslo helps druifs and priest to heal more, pala has banner, tht reduce def and aslo deal many magic dmg in area, shield is ussed for cover, like necros shields. Chains reduce enemy dmg and they arent able to use skills. So, maybe, against 1 boss, dk or barb, or even bd is better tank. But if that mobs spawn mobs, or against group of mobs like in technopolis dg, u will really need a pala. Right now, pala is equilibrate, maybe just sun seal should work in boss, but i dont think they need several changes. (im not pala user, but focusing their skills, its even better TANK SUPPORT than all other tanks) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erta06 25 Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 First, Sorry my english is very bad Paladin Is a tank? I have a paladin, for me is good, but the paladin for me no is a good tank, because the expert skil are unutil. Why? 1.- Illumination: a)In PvP is very bad alone hit fosakens. Mountain clan, chosen and First born are inmune In PvE alone hit ghost and dead npc (no hit a demons) 2.-Sun Seal: a) In PvP: is good In PvE is bad you can have 4/4 but the boss evade the hit, alone can use in normal mobs 3.-Sacred Shild a) In PvP alone is good (2vs2) can protec your team in PvE is bad, example in the lab you active the skill, lost the shild in 3 seconds and need wait 40s for activve again The paladin is the only no have a pasive skill, and are very easy of kill barbarian ignore the damage, dnight recovery health and the Bdancer make more damage one rogue kill me with 2 critital hits, i have 3.5k of life in these moment my shild are active (400), alone active my shild and dead The barbarian hace two skill very good "last wish" "Stone Skin" you are inmune (3 hits), you can´t dead with the last wish during these time you can kill your enemy Blade Dancer he have "counter strike" with this and the high damage he can kill very easy Dead Night have the "Dark shild" with this and life steal you are inmortal example Omercix I want a Pasive for paladin please the paladin is the tank more weaknes. Change Illumination for a Pasive. Paladin What pasive you want? change illuminacion for a pasive that skill is not good . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erta06 25 Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 it needs a passive skill to protect like a dk and help it to avoid negative effect. could be named Divine protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djpalxd 26 Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 (edited) Paladin good as a class for fun. New spear change the paladin. Now the paladin can produce a good one-time damage and at the same time can heal themselves. In instances paladin is good tank-support, apply a good damage, can withstand a lot of damage. Аrmor should be strengthened to at least 7 8! Edited August 31, 2016 by Djpalxd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SakKiimil 0 Posted September 1, 2016 Author Share Posted September 1, 2016 "...example Omercix" Ty bro "The moment" in these moment with my baner make 400dmg you only recibe 14dmg , the best tank Omercix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCocktail 183 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 i pvpd dopknight once. i was first hit, unleashed full stun combo on him, he recieved only 200-300 damage. he stopped doing anything and so did i after awkwarldly realizing it. ALSO: noob, if you know pala well, you know he is very good as a tank. I see you use a 2h weapon, and then you are complaining about your def, and how rogues can 2 shot you. if you want to go tanky, go shield. also, with shield bash, and simple stun, it is quite easy to succeed when fighting. SakKiimil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mailliwdxb 86 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 i pvpd dopknight once. i was first hit, unleashed full stun combo on him, he recieved only 200-300 damage. he stopped doing anything and so did i after awkwarldly realizing it. ALSO: noob, if you know pala well, you know he is very good as a tank. I see you use a 2h weapon, and then you are complaining about your def, and how rogues can 2 shot you. if you want to go tanky, go shield. also, with shield bash, and simple stun, it is quite easy to succeed when fighting. dont tank something that hits the hardest on server he is still a tank..lock him, keep distance nuke him and repeat. if you stand there expecting a win in a pure melee fight you will die silence exhale (let him use silence) shadow catch simple and elegant win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCocktail 183 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 dont tank something that hits the hardest on server he is still a tank..lock him, keep distance nuke him and repeat. if you stand there expecting a win in a pure melee fight you will die silence exhale (let him use silence) shadow catch simple and elegant win you literally thaught me how to fight a death knight. ps: thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba James Austin 25 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 you literally thaught me how to fight a death knight. ps: thanks I know how to beat them.. I just like pve more lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCocktail 183 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 dont tank something that hits the hardest on server he is still a tank..lock him, keep distance nuke him and repeat. if you stand there expecting a win in a pure melee fight you will die silence exhale (let him use silence) shadow catch simple and elegant win Well ik how to fight a dk allready* Because you forced me to change my playstyle when fighting against you in pvps Also the point was i couldnt nuke him, MY full combo did only 200-300 damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SakKiimil 0 Posted February 17, 2017 Author Share Posted February 17, 2017 i pvpd dopknight once. i was first hit, unleashed full stun combo on him, he recieved only 200-300 damage. he stopped doing anything and so did i after awkwarldly realizing it. ALSO: noob, if you know pala well, you know he is very good as a tank. I see you use a 2h weapon, and then you are complaining about your def, and how rogues can 2 shot you. if you want to go tanky, go shield. also, with shield bash, and simple stun, it is quite easy to succeed when fighting. I never say "i use 2h weapon" these time and nos i hace 47% reducción of damage and whit the shild skill, the rogues can kill me whit 2 hits and only see "2200!" "1700" in red. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgings 1824 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 This is an old topic anyway. Many things have changed since the moment of the pubblication of the topic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urscrewed 142 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jzargo 256 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Paladins are BD's assistant, they have lowest HP for tank. They aren't pure tank, their job is to make dungeon faster to clear with their AoE skills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhoenixFire 7 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 I hope - devs will make cool pvp skill for paladin. Most pala skills are useful only for teams... he needs good passive for himself (barbs stone skin or last wish for example...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgana 780 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 I hope - devs will make cool pvp skill for paladin. Most pala skills are useful only for teams... he needs good passive for himself (barbs stone skin or last wish for example...) That's because this game is mostly about teamplaying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pecleb 62 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 pala is less tanky than barb and dk, just like bd, but elves got more heal pala is certainly not a pvp char for many reasons, but he got unique skills. pala is a unique mix of tank, dmg, and healer, with some cool possibilities with team skills and AoE I think it's great like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jzargo 256 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Pala good at PvP watch this Russian dude give a good fight against warlock https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lkVNY5NI1w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq6zLt0G6hk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pecleb 62 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Ok perhaps i exagerated a little bit. But that man plays very well. and got very good skills build too. It's hard to choose how to build pala, here he managed to go full magic (i think), but it's hard to use skills as good as he did, and if u waste them u left with 300 pdmg... also if u fight ppl with more def and hp like dk and barb it will be hard to kill them in one harad-fetter-banner. Perhaps a mixed build or pdmg would be better in that case. this video it's impressive, still i think it is easier to make dk or warlock full stun, or healer full resi, or barb with 10s immunity if u want pvp. Again u convinced me, pala is ok at pvp, i just think it's hard to handle in pvp and his essential qualities or party support abilities Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jzargo 256 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Pala also good at massive PvP like war, you can kill 5+ people at one time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pecleb 62 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 elves OP at war (i mainly play elves) redemption destroys all mc stuns and even if area heal is lower than totem it's stationnary so maybe more efficient at war +mage ennoblemnt+all aoe dmg combo +rush, harad call and other pala skills, harad trees... XD the problem is idk how devs could solve this... u can't change all skills of the game... perhaps limit number of stun resisted by ennoblement or barbarian nature (depending on lvl) and limit as well number of debuff removed by redemption. just a suggestion if im right elf won last war 3-0 on all servers loool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgings 1824 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 if im right elf won last war 3-0 on all servers loool Seems that in all servers Mcs do not care of the war. I rage quitted too today due to the lazyness of the side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayr 57 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Aura could be turned to passive if you want to turn one into passive XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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