Flarelyred#1 0 Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 When ever I go online to see if a druid or shaman is better, I think and I'm not sure if Shamans are better healers than Druids because I always hear people on EU Server saying that this Shaman beats me or that shaman healed so many times I couldn't beat. Can someone tell me if a Shaman is better than a Druid because I can't choose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodylipa 1 Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Just for healing? Druids stronger. Why? Cause druids faction skill gives them a 5% buff on moon and astral magic, so druids will always have better astral if both classes can have any gear. All gear is identical when it comes to stats. now the reason why people dont like druid is cause they arnt using 'bees'. Most players take 1 look and decide to leave it lv1. Bees are highly underrated, slowing the movement of target and cutting their crit by 19%! That would leave my shaman with a 3% crit rate O.o and dps classes around 5% maybe (and this is an instant cast spell). Still no druid spends 5seconds attention to this skill. My shaman does not use quake 5 and I dont think I would spend 4 points on bees but I would have it 3+ easy if I had a druid. Without bees druids are sitting ducks after roots and no chance tanking rouges and barbs criting 1k+. It would be fun to hear from a drruid playing with bees here, its not worthless. Being without you leaves you far to vulnarable. some things to reflect on for the firstborn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knoxvillle 1 Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Bees are highly underrated, slowing the movement of target and cutting their crit by 19%! level 5 bees = only cutting ur crit by 12% Without bees druids are sitting ducks after roots and no chance tanking rouges and barbs criting 1k+. well, my Druid not really to bees tho but still I can tank Barbs and Rouge if its come 1 on 1. and now, Shaman/Druid gonna have Crit Heal. even 1k+ crit from any melee class, you can still run and region ur hp. both class are beast anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flarelyred#1 0 Posted June 6, 2012 Author Share Posted June 6, 2012 oh ok thank u for telling me :pleasantry: ill check back in and see if there is any replies to this post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gradex 0 Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 But dont forget what playing druid /shaman is most expensive... 2staffs and 2gears if u wana be ready for anything ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flarelyred#1 0 Posted June 6, 2012 Author Share Posted June 6, 2012 oh thank you gradex! ::) ;) i forgot about that :rofl: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xiranceovi 0 Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Shamans are best in war Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skadii 0 Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 They are both good it's just that Druid has +10-20 heal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gradex 0 Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 And shaman have better skills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flarelyred#1 0 Posted June 7, 2012 Author Share Posted June 7, 2012 lol but what about druid skills like defense which is comparing to healing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gradex 0 Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 lol but what about druid skills like defense which is comparing to healing? ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay 2 Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 lol but what about druid skills like defense which is comparing to healing? leave the defense skill coz at lv5 only give +5%, leave it at lv1 since it still give u +3% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecha 118 Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 wrong. Barkskin at lv5 is +7% def moon sun and dark res. And lasts 4 heal cycles Bees at lv 5 reduces enemy critical by 12% and atk speed by 30% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skadii 0 Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Druid has more support skills Shaman has more offensive skills they are two different things so don't act like Druids are weak and say things like this And shaman have better skills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gradex 0 Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Druid has more support skills Shaman has more offensive skills they are two different things so don't act like Druids are weak and say things like this Shaman is stronger against Druid in 1on1, but yea Druid is OP too :bad: My DB is nothing against them :bad: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay 2 Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 wrong. Barkskin at lv5 is +7% def moon sun and dark res. And lasts 4 heal cycles Bees at lv 5 reduces enemy critical by 12% and atk speed by 30% are u sure lv5 bees will reduce the speed by 30% ? How come? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecha 118 Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 are u sure lv5 bees will reduce the speed by 30% ? How come? So I did a quick test with a lv20 shaman.. crit% without swarm was 17.6 with Lv5 swarm was 5.6 attack speed without swarm was 2.3 with Lv5 swarm was -27.6 ..and another with a Lv17 rogue crit% without swarm was 24.1 with Lv5 swarm was 12.1 attack speed without swarm was 12.9 with Lv5 swarm was -17 ..so, it looks like Lv5 swarm is a 12% crit and 30% speed debuff. :D I have lv 5 bees. Lasts til about 2 secs before cooldown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay 2 Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 have u seen enemy with speed -10 attacking u? how slow is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodylipa 1 Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 I thought bees cut movement? Or do they cut all speed (swing/walk)? cause quakes cut melee atk speed (2 yards) by -20% at lv5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecha 118 Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 have u seen enemy with speed -10 attacking u? how slow is it? Im never aware of enemy' atk spd, but they do hit slower. Animation and all. Makes shamans lightning ball move slow mo towards enemy. Look at the weak blue rank mobs to the left of citadel of dinalt. They atk in slow mo like them. I thought bees cut movement? Or do they cut all speed (swing/walk)? cause quakes cut melee atk speed (2 yards) by -20% at lv5. bees only reduce critical rate and atk speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flarelyred#1 0 Posted June 10, 2012 Author Share Posted June 10, 2012 Got a point Mecha ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flarelyred#1 0 Posted June 11, 2012 Author Share Posted June 11, 2012 I took votes on EU Server of which is better a Shaman or Druid SHAMAN is in the lead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecha 118 Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 I think shaman better at pvp but druid better at hunting due to insect swarm and slightly higher heal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flarelyred#1 0 Posted June 11, 2012 Author Share Posted June 11, 2012 Shamans now have critical heal and now usually have 680 critical heal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gradex 0 Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Shamans now have critical heal and now usually have 680 critical heal lol :rofl: so normal heal 340? :facepalm: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odin 1 Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 lol :rofl: so normal heal 340? :facepalm: Lol that must be new skill no one noticed 680 crit heal :shok: ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flarelyred#1 0 Posted June 11, 2012 Author Share Posted June 11, 2012 My friend healed that :dirol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gradex 0 Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 My friend healed that :dirol: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flarelyred#1 0 Posted June 11, 2012 Author Share Posted June 11, 2012 :mega_shok: :nea: :pardon: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flarelyred#1 0 Posted June 11, 2012 Author Share Posted June 11, 2012 i have lvl 2 character - Redmenace - Has 70 critical heal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodylipa 1 Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Ive not heard of a player ever having 340 as base heal... Usually healers have 230-260 base heal. I heal 234 in heal gear but truely maxed out I could probably have 20-25 more astral, but thats not going to give me 340. Check my shaman spell book thread for a big healing spirit table, youll find heal for 8 astral values up to astral=226. shamans are good healers and for now the only choose for mc, so I dont get the poll really... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flarelyred#1 0 Posted June 11, 2012 Author Share Posted June 11, 2012 Ive not heard of a player ever having 340 as base heal... Usually healers have 230-260 base heal. I heal 234 in heal gear but truely maxed out I could probably have 20-25 more astral, but thats not going to give me 340. Check my shaman spell book thread for a big healing spirit table, youll find heal for 8 astral values up to astral=226. shamans are good healers and for now the only choose for mc, so I dont get the poll really... ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flarelyred#1 0 Posted June 23, 2012 Author Share Posted June 23, 2012 new thing is that now druid is over rated :wacko: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdead 0 Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 druids makes higher heal with same equips thats inequal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecha 118 Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 and shaman has 4% higher hp inequal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flarelyred#1 0 Posted June 23, 2012 Author Share Posted June 23, 2012 wow so many words and numbers :wacko: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neelam 13 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 agreed ;D wow so many words and numbers :wacko: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meysam 1 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 druid has 4% higher heal & dmg than shaman. so druid is better of heal & dmg! but shaman has 4% higher health! & strong skills! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkzain 0 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 This is a stupid topic ofc shamans are good healers duh without there heal your lab team can get ducked as well as druid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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