Motedon 0 Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 Hi bro's, just want to ask you what combination foe bladedancer is good for PvP (i will give examples with arena axe, dagger and sword) thanks for the help (if u help ofc)... (ALL ITEMS ARE ARENA): 1 axe 1 dagger - 331 hit 1.95 sec2 BLADES 340 dmg 2sec hit 1 axe 1 sword - 357 hit 2.1 sec 2 arena AXE 374 dmg in 2.2 sec. normal axe arena 187 hit time 2,2normal blade arena 170 hit time 2normal dagger arena 144 hit time 1,7 Quote
#zakuty 5 Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 Hi bro's, just want to ask you what combination foe bladedancer is good for PvP (i will give examples with arena axe, dagger and sword) thanks for the help (if u help ofc)... (ALL ITEMS ARE ARENA): 1 axe 1 dagger - 331 hit 1.95 sec 2 BLADES 340 dmg 2sec hit 1 axe 1 sword - 357 hit 2.1 sec 2 arena AXE 374 dmg in 2.2 sec. normal axe arena 187 hit time 2,2 normal blade arena 170 hit time 2 normal dagger arena 144 hit time 1,7 you are wrongu play as bd and you dont know how dual wield looks like? You should calculate like this: 1.0*dmg of main wpn (wpn in right hand + 0.4*secound wpn so you would get diffrent numbers Quote
Garahel 0 Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 The actual formula for dual weapon damage is: (1.0*main wpn dmg + 0.6*off hand wpn dmg + char lvl) * 1.04 (elf passive) This means that you should never put the weapon with more damage to your off hand because you'll have less total damage. As for the attack speed, this is the formula by Mioco: ((main hand speed - x) + (off hand speed - x)) / 1.34 where weapon speed is the number in the weapon info (dagger 1.7, sword 2.0, axe 2.2) and x is attack speed (percentage of a second), eg. 10% attack speed means x = 100 ms or 0.1 s So, assuming you're lvl 24 using lvl 19 arena weapons with no crystals and you have 0% attack speed, it should look like this: 2 daggers 264 dmg 2.53 s main sword + off dagger 291 dmg 2.76 s 2 swords 307 dmg 2.98 s main axe + off dagger 309 dmg 2.91 s main axe + off sword 325 dmg 3.13 s 2 axes 336 dmg 3.28 s Most people I've seen use 2 axes, because it offers high damage despite being slow. I personally use an axe and a dagger because I think that's the best compromise between damage and speed. Quote
absalom 54 Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 It depends on what your purpose with that character is. Two daggers can steal boss aggro easy, which is nice for events where you dont want to wait forever. Axe/Dagger looks best for PVP, and two axes is good for arena and wars. Quote
Motedon 0 Posted March 16, 2015 Author Posted March 16, 2015 woo guys, thanks for the formula i will use it, helps a lot, thanks !!!!! Quote
Robin Brar 16 Posted June 22, 2015 Posted June 22, 2015 Ok here we go I think use 2 axes better against range attackers( shaman,warlock,necroman,Druid,ranger,priest,Mage) But 2 axe same effective against others but axe + sword works well High dmg and pane matters Quote
Nosotraes 349 Posted June 23, 2015 Posted June 23, 2015 Use axe/axe for huge damage, but not so high attack speed. Use sword/sword for moderate both. Use dagger/dagger for not so high damage, but very high attack speed. Quote
A male 180 Posted June 23, 2015 Posted June 23, 2015 What to do pene when have too low accu ? Better get your attack succeed and deal something or get dodged/parried/blocked ? On PvP etc accuracy matters Quote
Bdsc 41 Posted June 24, 2015 Posted June 24, 2015 It depends on what your purpose with that character is. Two daggers can steal boss aggro easy, which is nice for events where you dont want to wait forever. Axe/Dagger looks best for PVP, and two axes is good for arena and wars. I ccan't believe that I believed that stuff at sometime 2 axes are best and don't care about Dps shown in state there is other factors include this matter Best are axes for all but I can say it's known that dagger is anti healers in old times but things changed so you can't be that much sure whether you need dps or high dmg for healers but I would go to high dmg Quote
Thiefmastr 9 Posted June 27, 2015 Posted June 27, 2015 I ccan't believe that I believed that stuff at sometime 2 axes are best and don't care about Dps shown in state there is other factors include this matter Best are axes for all but I can say it's known that dagger is anti healers in old times but things changed so you can't be that much sure whether you need dps or high dmg for healers but I would go to high dmg nah, imo 2x axe is the worst u can go... asuming you are lvl 24 and use lvl 21 wpns +8 with normal ench and full lvl 22 dmg build this is the ranking ordered by dps axe + axe: 747 dmg, 254.8 dps axe + sword: 728 dmg, 260.2 dps sword + sword: 696 dmg, 261.4 dps axe + dagger: 697 dmg, 268.4 dps sword + dagger: 666 dmg, 270.1 dps dagger + dagger: 615 dmg, 271.4 dps I'd choose axe + dagger... It's still high burst dmg and 25 more dps than axe + axe Quote
ninjamato 12 Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 Dagger + axe is my favorite. Good dmg + arena daggers give accuracy. Also I don't have that much money to amp so amping dagger to +4 and axe to +6 is good option for me Quote
fews 0 Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Got a dagger lvl 22 I don't know worth selling or amplify ... Quote
nabnecro 304 Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 (edited) Lmfao people still think more dps = better. The "dps" show on status box takes only the "normal attack damage"/"delay between normal attacks" ratio into account. Don't forget raw damage increases the damage of normal attacks AND damage of all the skills. It is broken, there's no reason to trade raw damage for attack speed, it is NEVER worth it unless you only use normal attacks and don't use skills. Edited July 21, 2015 by nabnecro Quote
A male 180 Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 (edited) Axe and axe / axe dagger has difference and is obvious , indeed is faster attack . Edited July 21, 2015 by heavybowus Quote
Tood 66 Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 Speed isn't much effective nowadays, dmg is the biggest factor, I myself prefer akse + akse (dem Engrish doe) Quote
Nosotraes 349 Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 Speed isn't much effective nowadays, dmg is the biggest factor, I myself prefer akse + akse (dem Engrish doe) Speed/damage mix is the best you can get. Quote
Thiefmastr 9 Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 Speed/damage mix is the best you can get. ^ Thats why i use axe + dagger Quote
Tood 66 Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 (edited) Lol idc about speed, it only adds 0.195 which is bs, even you use axe + axe so don't talk bs please Also the dmg diff is big since as stated above at the arena weps, that's a 43 dmg diff for what? 0.195 speed... Edited July 21, 2015 by Abduction Quote
Draconir 6 Posted February 19, 2021 Posted February 19, 2021 On 3/16/2015 at 11:18 AM, Garahel said: 0.6*off hand wpn dmg I did my calculations and found that the damage of the second weapon is halved, not halving the damage of the crystal... On 3/16/2015 at 11:18 AM, Garahel said: no crystals why without crystals? everyone uses crystal at this level... but we can use https://wsdb.xyz/calc/ to calculate... Quote
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