Gladiator 1142 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Because it doesn't takes a professional E-sports player to heal someone in dg, hunts or wars. See someone dying > click on heal skill > click on dying player> done . Any idiot can be good at a class, a priest that's played for a week is as good as any priest that's played for 3 years in pve, the only difference being the lack of basic game knowledge (magic,energy/regen, maps etc), same goes for every other class in the game. A +5 barb taking down a +8 paladin one on one; that takes skill. 1v1 is one of the few things in the game that requires skill and is why people use it as a means of gauging their strengths and capabilities, even if constantly AI is trying to break that kind of thinking with stubbornness and unbalanced classes... which brings us back to the topic at hand.I have to disagree with you about that point you made on priests in PvE, priest is not only a healer. Maybe that was the view of a healer back in old dungeons, but know not every priest can be taken in the new dungs, not talking about amps, I played with +7-8 priests and they do better than other higher amps.Also nowadays, less skill is needed in PvP, thanks to devs, a +10 bd can kill any healer with 1 ham combo. I see no skill with pointing the mouse on the target, clicking ham then spam the rest of the skills. The real skill that is left now is "gearing" the char. with suitable gears in different situations and amp as much as u can. But hey, skill is still needed in playing other classes. Just bds, they don't need that much of skill, maybe only against each other and there ppl can tell if this bd is better than the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bopp 15 Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Glad nailed it lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barb or die 2 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Shaman lock and rogue ? In pvp cave they die almost instantly +9 bd Vs +9 shaman once hamstring hits game over , lock ? I've seen locks in pvp cave do their thing fear hex circle stun hex kicks in and by the time bd is in front of their face lock drops dead from counter not hit one time from normal or skill dmg , and rogue is probably the only class who can stand up to bd but still die I've seen a one of my frinds who's a +9 rogue signal a bd , bd signalled back rogue gouged stealth attacked and git crit for 1400 damage then hit him again for 600 and died the bd just stood their now my friend is a pro 18 in full kw armor and the bd was a +10 26 but still , he couldn't even put up a good fight he killed himself also for me as a barb I'm +9 full arena armor I use to kill bd in pvp cave with stun shield 3/4 and I'd walk back charge stun 3/5 keep the bd immobilized for about 11 seconds I'd jump in front of em in damage and win , now they got that power of the blades and I got stone skin the new rune drops stone skin everytime I hit and these bds are dealing 500+ normal damage to me not to mention sskills and counter roar prolongs my death and it don't even do that because I get killed while bd damage is cut down by 35% and sometimes I survive using the og chop taunt stepback charge but usually I get hit by hamstring which is ticking about 200+ 4X and their normal hits me for 500+ to normal hits drops me 1K hp in 2 seconds when I +10 I'll have 7936 defense full arena armor with runes right now it's 7021 +9 and I already tested the def with a bd I know he hits me for 530+ at 7021 and at 7936 no bullshit this is +10 all the way around drops his damage to 512 .... Wow big difference each normal hit still gonna drop me 1K + ham 200 4X tick his counter hits me 450+ no roar and skill hits me 700 690+ .... Basically 700 so even if I'm +10 new gear oh and ! I have 5.2K hp and I still die in 9-10 seconds sometimes the second hamstring don't even come I'm dead before it , that class really needs a hard core Nerf I got no problems with bd as a class but it's damage honestly makes ranger look inferior , so if u need damage and a ranger pm u ? Tell em Nah we mean bd , heavy armor high hp hardcore damage and stuns ohhhrah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladiator 1142 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 ohhhrah Whaaaaa?? :scared: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoleyKathi 120 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 "Hurray- ohhhrah" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barb or die 2 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 United States marine Corp I'm joining up in about a year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barb or die 2 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 So you guys think devs will Nerf bd ? Earlier I fought a 5 man team of bd in 5v5 and hamstring after hamstring I don't even remember I charged in and it happened so fast we all died Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoleyKathi 120 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Simple answer Join the bd hype or get rekt Atm bd Meta but im sure smth will happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mailliwdxb 86 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Simple answer Join the bd hype or get rekt Atm bd Meta but im sure smth will happen Bd underop please give it hex as a separate skill and also passive heal in the form of double sap... Give it higher dmg also can't kill ayvo mobs in one hit yet Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barb or die 2 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Simple answer Join the bd hype or get rekt Atm bd Meta but im sure smth will happen but I don't like elf side is so boring , and every mc class I see in pvp cave gets destroyed in a matter of seconds lock is the best choice but because of counter they die from their own attacks even shamans with totem heal gets destroyed in a mater of seconds Necro was mc only really defense Vs bd , bd feared Necros 95% of em couldn't win , now they nerfed Necro buffed bds counter and gave em a damage skill that increases their damage by 17% or so which normal attack deals equal damage as skill and hits more often then skill , what do we do as mc to fight bd ? They literally destroy 5K hp wit 7K def full arena in 9 seconds no lie I can't imagine how quick death must be for poor casters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barb or die 2 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 The worse part is that they act like it was 90% skill on their part and 10% amps , they legit think their not op and will call u a noob if u think so , u have to just accept your lose cuz your a weak +9+10 player go amp more lol cocky son of a ♥♥♥♥♥es Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mailliwdxb 86 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 (edited) Learn to kite them with tanks xD Works most of the time even against high amps Running as a tank isn't wrong when it's against a bd Edited January 6, 2016 by mailliwdxb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladiator 1142 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Learn to kite them with tanks xD Works most of the time even against high amps Running as a tank isn't wrong when it's against a bd "OMGNNOOBRUNNERBLABLAPUSSYNOOBWHYURUN ]:>"-Some people Anyways, yeah you're right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barb or die 2 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Kite as a tank .... Maybe pala can't with banner and stun , but barb Nah I can chop but chop does 20 dmg X4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barb or die 2 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Can* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mailliwdxb 86 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Dk... Run sharp shadow exhale silence gg hit the living duck out of the bd run again wait for cd.. You win But that was before counter buff :terminator: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raislin 337 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 (edited) Guys i heard from a reliable source that bds are completely balanced. What are your thoughts? Edited January 26, 2016 by Raislin Cybernem 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoleyKathi 120 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Guys i heard from a reliable source that bds are completely balanced. What are your thoughts? Put some oil into the fire! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raislin 337 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 (edited) Put some oil into the fire! I wish i was actually joking when i heard two people say bd is completely "balanced". My sides swiftly exited this galaxy when i actually read what they were saying Other one has a full +10 bd and other one has a +9ish druid that runs from every good player he sees. As a side note they were complaining about warlock which is the best counter to both classes. And complaining about me multying against multiple people. Edited January 26, 2016 by Raislin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoleyKathi 120 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 I wish i was actually joking when i heard two people say bd is completely "balanced". My sides swiftly exited this galaxy when i actually read what they were saying Other one has a full +10 bd and other one has a +9ish druid that runs from every good player he sees. As a side note they were complaining about warlock which is the best counter to both classes. And complaining about me multying against multiple people. u still play (amp) ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raislin 337 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 u still play (amp) ? Yes when i can. lock is full 9 atm which is why they keep complaining about it. Sucks against full mdef ppl tho. Have only 2.2 pene, need to change my equips around at somepoint. Also working on billion other characters which makes progress really slow. I keep saying i'll get there. Eventually. xd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoleyKathi 120 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Yes when i can. lock is full 9 atm which is why they keep complaining about it. Sucks against full mdef ppl tho. Have only 2.2 pene, need to change my equips around at somepoint. Also working on billion other characters which makes progress really slow. I keep saying i'll get there. Eventually. xd there is always a little mecha in all of us goodluck tho ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barb or die 2 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Yes when i can. lock is full 9 atm which is why they keep complaining about it. Sucks against full mdef ppl tho. Have only 2.2 pene, need to change my equips around at somepoint. Also working on billion other characters which makes progress really slow. I keep saying i'll get there. Eventually. xd how do you not die from counter ? My buddy is a full +9 lock pro lock , throws all basic wl stuns at bd fear hex circle pool and drops dead , it will happen so fast you'll miss the fight if u don't watch closely it's over quicker then it began and my goodness if he say lags or whatever and doesn't get to fear 1st and gets hits by hamstring just wow all I can say wow done pvp over call the cops murder in the 1st degree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raislin 337 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 how do you not die from counter ? My buddy is a full +9 lock pro lock , throws all basic wl stuns at bd fear hex circle pool and drops dead , it will happen so fast you'll miss the fight if u don't watch closely it's over quicker then it began and my goodness if he say lags or whatever and doesn't get to fear 1st and gets hits by hamstring just wow all I can say wow done pvp over call the cops murder in the 1st degree I try not to use normals if theres counter active, only skills. And only sphere and arrow proc counter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladiator 1142 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Counter is 24/7 active lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raislin 337 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Counter is 24/7 active lol. Not against locks and dks with maxed stuns Baryon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barb or die 2 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Not against locks and dks with maxed stuns idk dude I seen wl claim alot of shit Vs bd and in the heat of the moment die like they were nothing ..... Vsing bd level 26 makes u feel like your only level 14 next to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mailliwdxb 86 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 (edited) Max stun dk here, bds use counter as signs.. Hence even in stun (3 shadow 2 silence or even more if i keep space) counter seems to just melt before i can For some odd reason ham can be stacked and used in silence if the bd is fast enough... So yeah Edited January 30, 2016 by mailliwdxb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baryon 56 Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 ♥♥♥♥♥ please if u guys are so mad at bd..try to play one now and see how hard it is to kill lock or amped rogues after new skill update. The secret to kill other classes with ur class is nt crying bt to understand other classes weakness So,stop crying and try to study all class good luck and good night to all buddies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladiator 1142 Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Duh.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Usama Tayyab 7 Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Rouge using CD crystal can do what none can. MC keep on cry bd op op op it's op cause U +7-+8 lv 21 equip and him +10+rare enchant+high level gear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jzargo 256 Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 CD crystal and you can play hide and seek with BD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabnecro 304 Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 (edited) ♥♥♥♥♥ please if u guys are so mad at bd..try to play one now and see how hard it is to kill lock or amped rogues after new skill update. The secret to kill other classes with ur class is nt crying bt to understand other classes weakness So,stop crying and try to study all class good luck and good night to all buddies Dude please stop, +10 BD vs +10 caster = BD does 1k damage with counter (don't forget now BD can keep counter active 100% of time). BD is completely capable of tanking 2 enemies for quite some time, the damage potential with counter on this kind of situation surpasses any damage a rogue or sniper can dream of. That alone is enough proof that this class is totally broken. Edited March 28, 2016 by nabnecro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baryon 56 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Dude please stop, +10 BD vs +10 caster = BD does 1k damage with counter (don't forget now BD can keep counter active 100% of time). BD is completely capable of tanking 2 enemies for quite some time, the damage potential with counter on this kind of situation surpasses any damage a rogue or sniper can dream of. That alone is enough proof that this class is totally broken. brother....if u always compare +10 vs +10 then it wouldnt be right. Most of the players arent even +8 Im nt denying bd has become a bit over powered bt its nt impossible to defeat bd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladiator 1142 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 It is not, but look and compare how easy BDs take down their foes to how hard it is and how much luck needed for BDs' opponents to win. The class shouldn't be undefeatable to be OP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baryon 56 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 It is not, but look and compare how easy BDs take down their foes to how hard it is and how much luck needed for BDs' opponents to win. The class shouldn't be undefeatable to be OP. yupZ Glad....i have told earlier im nt denying BD has got a bit overpowered compared to other classes when high amped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Usama Tayyab 7 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Necro with high hp and CD can win against bd.use Sleep when U low HP run >high cooldown U can use sleep again in 8-10seconds.use damage skill kite and sleep again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxt 1 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 most true, unfortunately bd this very unbalanced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabnecro 304 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 (edited) brother....if u always compare +10 vs +10 then it wouldnt be right. Most of the players arent even +8 Im nt denying bd has become a bit over powered bt its nt impossible to defeat bd : 1) +0 vs +0 would still be the same. So comparing +10 vs +10 is right. 2) Discussion is about being unbalanced and not undefeatable. Think about this way, one skill press for BD (counter) can easily cause 2k damage or more on more than 1 target. And that can happen even id BD is stunned. Is there any other classes (even rogues or snipers) who can press a button and have guaranteed 2k+ damage on enemies? Not only that, new passive skill is still affecting damage of all Blade Dancer skills. Including the counter itself. Counter needs a MAJOR nerf and the new passive skills should affect only normal attack. Edited March 29, 2016 by nabnecro Cybernem and Wargoon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Usama Tayyab 7 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 It depend on HP.if ur HP high U will not die in a single combo(U dead if U are using retribution rune).comparing +0 vs +0 =necro win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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