Hike Tyson 41 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Elves are masters of any weapon they can use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vavavi 240 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Lol no, bd has more damage and the only way a barb can have higher def is by using shield. Don't forget 2h is slower than axes, sword and dagger BDS are having higher damage as well as DPS, more than rogue also because BDS have 4% damage buff. Comparing 2h damage and DPS to axe, sword really? Next person who will argue about this is dumb afif it wasn't for counter barbs would be perfectly balanced with their skills. And don't forget barbs having an extra stun whilst using shield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cybernem 157 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Extra stun? Can you compare them with hamstring or rush? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hike Tyson 41 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[email protected] 7 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 how to kill an opponent with a bd 1)run to them 2)hamstring 3)??? 4)profit tell me it is wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hike Tyson 41 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Not All Blade Dancers are powerful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosotraes 350 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Not All Blade Dancers are powerful. And I am a living example of this statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vavavi 240 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 ^ that's why you shouldn't give an internet access to childrens before they reach their eighth years. Or legalize the euthanasia simply. Do you realise that this "extra" stun have a shield requirement (which stincks shits for pvp) while bladedancers have an aoe skill (also a gap closer) and the hamstring ? people seem to be so frustrated with their incapability of beating bds that all they do is whine and say they're false. Learn your way around them instead of complaining and you'd see results. Hike Tyson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A male 180 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Wish i had that undead ability that barb has Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bdsc 41 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 (edited) Hey, I know it will be hard for you, but try to use your softened neurons, and stop talking for saying nothing. Ima make a quizz. What's the weakpoint of blade dancers ? Some of them can be kited without you getting dmg ofc any noob with 4/4 counter can screw you but you should always look at the bright side you can kite them for 5 sec before you die Edited September 27, 2015 by Kitige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A male 180 Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 What's the weakpoint of blade dancers ? Low accu and ham be dodged or something , wait till counter attack ends , then it is easy blah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hike Tyson 41 Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Power Overwhelming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cybernem 157 Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Low accu and ham be dodged or something , wait till counter attack ends , then it is easy blah Ever heard of enlightenment skill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosotraes 350 Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 A lot of Bladedancers don't have it. 'Less they reach level 26 now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A male 180 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Ever heard of enlightenment skill? Most do not have it like me , i find it unimportant as i dont have dodge set , for some accu , nah. Few use it. A good barbarian can beat blade dancer if he wants to, i am talking in general not always having in mind dope +10s because not everyone is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vavavi 240 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Of course any full +10 char with latest gear is hard to beat, doesn't mean the class is bs. Bds can be kited easily and counter can be avoided. Even rogues can kite them. Dks have non ending stun cycle with silence which should be plenty to win, if you have the brain capacity to play right. Barbs can keep you stunned for ages, and even after ham, they can heal and use taunt to lower dmg. Lvl 5 taunt does work. Build your char better if you can't beat bds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cybernem 157 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 (edited) Barbs can keep you stunned for ages and use "taunt" to lower damage, Lolololol Edited October 1, 2015 by Cybernem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raislin 337 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Barbs can keep you stunned for ages and use "taunt" to lower damage, Lolololol Quess you havent fought 1h barbs with 5 charge and 4 shield strike. Combine that with lots of pene and a fast weapon and rekfast is served. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
342621117mk 12 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 (edited) Guess you haven't fought 2 weapons BD with 4 counter strike, 4 shield and 2 axes. With your build, the BD will just need some life steal. And just because you play on a defensive way, there is no point combat fury will heal you back enought. Not saying you're wrong but 4/4 cs and 4/4 shield is not possible to have at the same time. You only get 5 sp after lv 18, and that's at lv 26. Edited October 1, 2015 by 342621117mk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cybernem 157 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Quess you havent fought 1h barbs with 5 charge and 4 shield strike. Combine that with lots of pene and a fast weapon and rekfast is served. It's funny when people thinks charge is good, one of the worst stun skill in game and it fails most of the time even at 5/5. Can't compare charge with hamstring, and "taunt" doesn't lower the damage, roar does and bd sap can do the same. Anyways wasn't talking about if bd is op or barb is, I was saying bd has more damage and DPS than rogue and rogue is an attack class and a dumbass compared speed & damage of 2h with axe or sword. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[email protected] 7 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 in what universe elves use axes? axes are barbarian like weapons. I think it was stupid to add them to bds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cybernem 157 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 True Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A male 180 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Whats the point of this discussion ? Bd is mortal like all classes , immortal if you know to play like all classes too . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cybernem 157 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 So because a class is mortal, it's balanced ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
342621117mk 12 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 So because a class is mortal, it's balanced ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuggar 25 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 weapons should have been exclusive to classes. Daggers=Rogues Swords=Bd neither should be able to use axe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vavavi 240 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Rogues have easily more dps than bds lol, bds just got more def Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle 198 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Rogues have easily more dps than bds lol, bds just got more def Noob Response. Dps is damage per second it does not factor in Skills. its a plain hit which therefore is effected by what weapon you use. Rogues can Nuke out of stealth bds can Nuke 24/7 a +10 Blade dancer if used correctly cannot be beaten Sorry not sorry Counterstrike htis 1.5k on ppl with 4k Defence. Sonic boom easy 800 at lv1 Shield lv4 Is like 2k External Damage Hamstring power hit ontop of this makes blade dancers invincible I see +10s die in 5 seconds to my blade dancer which uses sword rondel combo +1-8 lv18 and there lv26. and i dont have shield or counter strike A blade dancer can deal much more damage in 5 seconds then a rogue ever can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cybernem 157 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Noob Response. Dps is damage per second it does not factor in Skills. its a plain hit which therefore is effected by what weapon you use. Rogues can Nuke out of stealth bds can Nuke 24/7 a +10 Blade dancer if used correctly cannot be beaten Sorry not sorry Counterstrike htis 1.5k on ppl with 4k Defence. Sonic boom easy 800 at lv1 Shield lv4 Is like 2k External Damage Hamstring power hit ontop of this makes blade dancers invincible I see +10s die in 5 seconds to my blade dancer which uses sword rondel combo +1-8 lv18 and there lv26. and i dont have shield or counter strike A blade dancer can deal much more damage in 5 seconds then a rogue ever can. + BDs have 4% damage passive skill, means they have higher DPS as well as damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle 198 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 + BDs have 4% damage passive skill, means they have higher DPS as well as damage. yes now with full arena rewards a Blade Dancer can Surpass 1,400 Damage. and 9k Defence with Resi Enchants to Bounce along with the Armor. With the Rewards Resi Buff aswell? and the experts and passive impossible to defeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cybernem 157 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 yes now with full arena rewards a Blade Dancer can Surpass 1,400 Damage. and 9k Defence with Resi Enchants to Bounce along with the Armor. With the Rewards Resi Buff aswell? and the experts and passive impossible to defeat. xD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A male 180 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 If bladedancer passes 1400 damage and 9k def (rly now) , then ranger will nuke everything for real with the damage (aw where are the complains on that). You all think that every bladedancer is dope 10 with 1k damage and smart to kill all in 5 second (lol?). Dps matters when using daggers , axes bla bla is all the same thing , just shows what you deal doesnt make difference in something. There will come a day that another class will be *ruling* in everyone's opinion , everything is in the mind . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cybernem 157 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 If bladedancer passes 1400 damage and 9k def (rly now) , then ranger will nuke everything for real with the damage (aw where are the complains on that). You all think that every bladedancer is dope 10 with 1k damage and smart to kill all in 5 second (lol?). Dps matters when using daggers , axes bla bla is all the same thing , just shows what you deal doesnt make difference in something. There will come a day that another class will be *ruling* in everyone's opinion , everything is in the mind . I thought turtle was trolling, no BDS can surpass 1400 damage or 9k defence with resilience enchants. No offence but what you just posted makes zero sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle 198 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 actaully a bd can easily surpass those stats without resi enchants idk someone would have to try it. next update 22 armor with set bonus Def use that and Golden dawn all +10 two Amplifed Polaxes of Death +10 crit all arena rewards Lv22 Belt should hit aprox over 7k atleast. 1,4k damage easy considered voonz is using Halloween equip and 1 ice item and is hitting 1064 using eternal frost and how much more base dmg does all destroying get like 45? plus amplify eqaution = like 80 more per weap + 30 % damage boost all together = 24 = 104 =104 = 208 1064+208=1272 oh well pretty close guess ill have to wait till next update till i can find a bd that can hit 1.4k Defeated my own point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[email protected] 7 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 go to ws-db.ru and use the calculator to prove it. Bds can be op. Its not just the def and dmg but the skills. Paladin can get 1100-1200dmg with spear too. Or a death knight or a barbarian. It doesnt change the fact that bd has awesome expert skills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cybernem 157 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 (edited) actaully a bd can easily surpass those stats without resi enchants idk someone would have to try it. next update 22 armor with set bonus Def use that and Golden dawn all +10 two Amplifed Polaxes of Death +10 crit all arena rewards Lv22 Belt should hit aprox over 7k atleast. 1,4k damage easy considered voonz is using Halloween equip and 1 ice item and is hitting 1064 using eternal frost and how much more base dmg does all destroying get like 45? plus amplify eqaution = like 80 more per weap + 30 % damage boost all together = 24 = 104 =104 = 208 1064+208=1272 oh well pretty close guess ill have to wait till next update till i can find a bd that can hit 1.4k Defeated my own point Defence less than 7.8k with defence runes (golden dawn + dd with defence bonus) no where near 9k with resilience enchants. Damage less than 1100 with guild power 3/3, not even close to 1400. Edited October 5, 2015 by Cybernem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle 198 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 wat i just did the math homie. with 3/3 power 15% if im correct would hit 1400 as an all +10 bd and i said over 7k read last post u mustve skipped over all the math Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cybernem 157 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 wat i just did the math homie. with 3/3 power 15% if im correct would hit 1400 as an all +10 bd and i said over 7k read last post u mustve skipped over all the math Voonz had war buff and it is still not possible to reach 1400 on bd, anyways Hazelnut 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tictoc 1 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Sad story here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikafati 148 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 (edited) Balance the classes properly and I believe we could turn this into a happy story. I can post a wall of text with suggestions on how to balance everyone Edited October 6, 2015 by Shil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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