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anyway if we talking about relics please let chief use vamp relics so we can use disto books

Just now, Babocool said:

nobody cares about seeker, this is a charmer topic. even if seeker crits 10k, it's not guaranteed by a relic, its them maxing out crit stat. 

I would love to see that any other class crits x3 cause of a relic. go on

 

ok hunter poison w same relic or bd bleeding

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I dont mean to brag but, i do 10k auto crits and 16k skill crits in spring dg with my ranger wkwkwk (just simple pot/card buffs)

 

at raids bosses this is what we have:

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if we could see the 4th row, you would see Charmers crit damage buffs too :d 

 

a pt full of buffs like this, full +10, full crit dmg books/minions/ 3 classes buff. events buffs. +9 books each. 

is not being able to outdamage a minion skill from a support class, 4 charmers dont even need crit damage buffs. just increase their physical damage number & pene. with the cruelty relic. 

 

 

 

this probably wont be fixed or changed anytime soon, but its funny to see people who are benefited from this relic are panicking to say anything to defend it :d bet they feel victorious 😅

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4 minutes ago, Maleknecro said:

Showww! Must not be underwater, must not have armistice, infection effects, has to be an auto attack. Im waiting <3

 

2 minutes ago, Ivoo said:

show me 1 charmer doing same please

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Just now, Ivoo said:

once again, we don't care about chiefs here. All we talk about is charmer, using a relic which let dogs crit  even tho they were spawned before the "rage" effect was activated. If you want to talk about chief, go to Chief section. thanks

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1 minute ago, Babocool said:

once again, we don't care about chiefs here. All we talk about is charmer, using a relic which let dogs crit  even tho they were spawned before the "rage" effect was activated. If you want to talk about chief, go to Chief section. thanks

just telling that charmers are balanced and making normal dmg maybe less than dmg classes cuz they are tank / supports and 1 rage relic doesnt change anything 

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3 minutes ago, Ivoo said:

All that dmg and yet charmers get to out dmg it, clearly the rage relic needs a fix

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Just now, Ivoo said:

just telling that charmers are balanced and making normal dmg maybe less than dmg classes cuz they are tank / supports and 1 rage relic doesnt change anything 

obviously charmers are balanced. the relic isn't working as it should. 

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Just now, Santa Claus said:

Bd do way more dmg than charmers just bcs u have outdated bds with def books in ur server doesnt change fact that they can do more dmg than charmer in same bosses

 

1 minute ago, Ivoo said:

try this relic w hunter poison u will see same results or bd bleeding once rage is on all hits become crit

once again, Charmer Section. Dont compare them with any class.:sadowl:

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20 minutes ago, Babocool said:

nobody cares about seeker, this is a charmer topic. even if seeker crits 10k, it's not guaranteed by a relic, its them maxing out crit stat. 

I would love to see that any other class crits x3 cause of a relic. go on

 

This relic works same way on every class, if you don't believe, try it yourself, it's just description bug

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1 minute ago, Babocool said:

 

once again, Charmer Section. Dont compare them with any class.:sadowl:

why u want to nerf this relic for charmers and not for hunters bds? but yeah they should change the text on relic 

"Character deals critical strike with the skill when rage is activated" 

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Charmer section on how u cant beat boss bcs charmers are "too op". This looks more like 1 server problem

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Just now, Azerbaizan said:

This relic works same way on every class, if you don't believe, try it yourself, it's just description bug

Yeah as i said they should change description "Character deals critical strike with the skill when rage is activated"  and its all good. because alot players built this relic and bought it expensive not worth to nerf or buff because every character dmg is fine if u compare charmers to other classes

1 minute ago, Santa Claus said:

Charmer section on how u cant beat boss bcs charmers are "too op". This looks more like 1 server problem

its eu emerald if phalanx doesnt win boss then forum is full of them 🤣

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3 minutes ago, Babocool said:

 

once again, Charmer Section. Dont compare them with any class.:sadowl:

You are the only one who doesn't get it, relic works as it is supposed to work on every class, although you can try suggest it to be changed on next skill/relics rework. 

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@Maleknecro

 

Refrain from using certain kind language here please. We can discuss without necessarily insulting people. Thank you for the understanding 

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29 minutes ago, God Emerald said:

its funny to see people who are benefited from this relic are panicking to say anything to defend it

This looks so good from the pencil who said "disto book was only thing that balanced ranger"  before it got nerf

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Nerf charmer Nerf relic that charmer can use soon delete charmer class bro  U want ecerything for ur self im pretty sure its all over the raid boss.

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6 minutes ago, Azerbaizan said:

You are the only one who doesn't get it, relic works as it is supposed to work on every class, although you can try suggest it to be changed on next skill/relics rework. 

The suggestion was given already, that is by givin the permanent crits to the dogs summoned After the rage, the class obtains insane value from this relic. As a class with 1handed weapon its kinda dum

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1 minute ago, Azerbaizan said:

This looks so good from the pencil who said "disto book was only thing that balanced ranger"  before it got nerf

Tbh there is alot overpowered relic why we dont nerf icy relic of capactivity, terrible relic of vampirism etc why should relics buff disto book and vamp books?, magic def relics etc why they work w octo orcinus books? relics should just not affect passive books

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7 minutes ago, Azerbaizan said:

You are the only one who doesn't get it, relic works as it is supposed to work on every class, although you can try suggest it to be changed on next skill/relics rework. 

Every other class must have rage on. Charmers can spawn their 3 dogs already without rage on. ( all 3 start critting once rage activates.) As the description says. Dogs should only crit if the dog was spawned DURING RAGE effect. This is the issue. 

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4 minutes ago, Puppymaster said:

Nerf charmer Nerf relic that charmer can use soon delete charmer class bro  U want ecerything for ur self im pretty sure its all over the raid boss.

The topic is about a relic that overpowers charmer, not about nerfing it. Put some glasses on i heard they help

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2 minutes ago, Babocool said:

Every other class must have rage on. Charmers can spawn their 3 dogs already without rage on. ( all 3 start critting once rage activates.) As the description says. Dogs should only crit if the dog was spawned DURING RAGE effect. This is the issue. 

Other classes can use skills too before rage is on, and benefit from the rage when it turns on, same on every class, don't you see?

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1 minute ago, Maleknecro said:

The topic is about a relic that overpowers charmer, not about nerfing it. Put some glasses on i heard they help

it's working completely as it should. even i have perma rage without rage books

p.s i am not a charmer

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Nerf vamp relics, give octo / orci book limits and dont make them getting buffed with magic defence increasing relics, Make distortion book not work with relics and pots only with character main life steal. 

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5 minutes ago, Ivoo said:

Tbh there is alot overpowered relic why we dont nerf icy relic of capactivity, terrible relic of vampirism etc why should relics buff disto book and vamp books?, magic def relics etc why they work w octo orcinus books? relics should just not affect passive books

That is because these relics have the same impact on every class genius! While the rage one turns a tank into something that outdmges other dps classes! Is this simple enough?

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1 minute ago, Maleknecro said:

The topic is about a relic that overpowers charmer, not about nerfing it. Put some glasses on i heard they help

all I see the sweet tears falling down by words  . This topic wouldn't exits if 2 of eu guilds not missing raid bosses .

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1 minute ago, Maleknecro said:

That is because these relics have the same impact on every class genius! While the rage one turns a tank into something that outdmges other dps classes! Is this simple enough?

So, other dps class outdmg other dps class? Who said charmer can't be dps? Never insult charmer a tank again:Penguin8:

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1 hour ago, vavavi said:

I'd love to see anyone come up with an actual argument trying to justify one relic doubling a whole classes damage.

20 replies and yet this fact about said relic is being dodged constantly. The same old "but x class does this" or "but person y complained about this before", instead of even trying to address the relic itself.

 

It's like having 2,5 bds old POBs active, with no cost. A skill that was widely considered broken and in need of a fix, which it deservingly got. It was almost universally agreed that this change was needed. Why is something over twice as strong not deserving of that same treatment? 

 

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nerf octo book🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

1 minute ago, Higgings said:

Can we please not go off topic? We are mentioning several non-constructive items/arguments... 

Its not really just about the single relic

Just now, Puppymaster said:

 

Its not really just about the single relic

 

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Just suggestion to Moderators / Developers @Nolanand others idk names 😂

 

Just change the description to "The characters deals critical strike when the rage is activated" 

Because most bought this relic already expensive af and used it there is no need nerf or buffs. 

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3 minutes ago, Puppymaster said:

Its not really just about the single relic

 

 

In this topic, it is.

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3 minutes ago, Ivoo said:

Just suggestion to Moderators / Developers @Nolanand others idk names 😂

 

Just change the description to "The characters deals critical strike when the rage is activated" 

Because most bought this relic already expensive af and used it there is no need nerf or buffs. 

dont have to ruin charmers and make them boring again

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10 minutes ago, Maleknecro said:

That is because these relics have the same impact on every class genius! While the rage one turns a tank into something that outdmges other dps classes! Is this simple enough?

??? you just answered your own question, if this relic was made by dev for such purpose then it exists for this purpose.

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8 minutes ago, Puppymaster said:

 

Its not really just about the single relic

 

 

In this topic, it is. 

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2 minutes ago, Ahmed Didar said:

??? you just answered your own question, if this relic was made by dev for such purpose then it exists for this purpose.

Nice all classes have a skill that summons 3 mobs that have permanent crit. Thank you genius ur so helpful lmao

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Just now, Puppymaster said:

 yea for some people it is.

 

Other people may just refrain from going off topic then, if they have got nothing constructive to add in this topic.

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