Jcbref 610 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 (edited) during horror qualification tournament some guilds have created new level 2 characters, soloed level 6 dg with high level character for 4 of them to get points. then after 5 runs those level 2 characters have been deleted and new ones have been created and cycle has repeated i feel like this isnt what devs had in mind when they made this qualification tournament and its point gain system, since they only make money for stams the high level character uses im suggesting that if a character leaves a guild then their contibution should be removed since they are not part of the guild benefitting from it anymore, same thing should be for gp but that isnt as substantial since high level dgs give so much more gp but not qualification points and creating and deleting new characters is also a way to circumvent the 1000 daily limit on points and you only need to create 7 characters and you can make more points other option that i could suggestt is to make it so higher the level of dungeon the more points it gives but that would make it so much harder for lower level guilds with lower level members this could make it so either those low levels stay in guild and use staminas if they want to do more runs so aigring makes money and its fairer for everyone or then those guilds would stay in guild with their high levels and maybe run dg of their own level to make same amount of points but more gp and possible drops these are the things devs need to think about if they are planning to make more similar events in the future Edited November 4, 2021 by Jcbreff Alone Zzzz, Mjtov, Higgings and 3 others 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthas 388 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 4 hours ago, Jcbreff said: during horror qualification tournament some guilds have created new level 2 characters, soloed level 6 dg with high level character for 4 of them to get points. then after 5 runs those level 2 characters have been deleted and new ones have been created and cycle has repeated i feel like this isnt what devs had in mind when they made this qualification tournament and its point gain system, since they only make money for stams the high level character uses im suggesting that if a character leaves a guild then their contibution should be removed since they are not part of the guild benefitting from it anymore, same thing should be for gp but that isnt as substantial since high level dgs give so much more gp but not qualification points and creating and deleting new characters is also a way to circumvent the 1000 daily limit on points and you only need to create 7 characters and you can make more points other option that i could suggestt is to make it so higher the level of dungeon the more points it gives but that would make it so much harder for lower level guilds with lower level members this could make it so either those low levels stay in guild and use staminas if they want to do more runs so aigring makes money and its fairer for everyone or then those guilds would stay in guild with their high levels and maybe run dg of their own level to make same amount of points but more gp and possible drops these are the things devs need to think about if they are planning to make more similar events in the future The same is happening on Tourmaline, really makes it pointless to even try and play the system as intended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alone Zzzz 20 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Really shameful I would say it's cheating, an infinite cycle of Farm tw lvl 6, in which a lvl 32 takes 4 lows and repeating over and over again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yinglun 36 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 I think he is just an application of the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcbref 610 Posted November 5, 2021 Author Share Posted November 5, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, yinglun said: I think he is just an application of the rules. It is otherwise using the game mechanics as intended except circumventing 1000 points daily limit from dgs for one character But the term "abuse" or "exploiting" can also be using intended game mechanics in unintended ways to get an edge Edited November 5, 2021 by Jcbreff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leesince 0 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 On 11/4/2021 at 12:24 PM, Jcbreff said: during horror qualification tournament some guilds have created new level 2 characters, soloed level 6 dg with high level character for 4 of them to get points. then after 5 runs those level 2 characters have been deleted and new ones have been created and cycle has repeated i feel like this isnt what devs had in mind when they made this qualification tournament and its point gain system, since they only make money for stams the high level character uses im suggesting that if a character leaves a guild then their contibution should be removed since they are not part of the guild benefitting from it anymore, same thing should be for gp but that isnt as substantial since high level dgs give so much more gp but not qualification points and creating and deleting new characters is also a way to circumvent the 1000 daily limit on points and you only need to create 7 characters and you can make more points other option that i could suggestt is to make it so higher the level of dungeon the more points it gives but that would make it so much harder for lower level guilds with lower level members this could make it so either those low levels stay in guild and use staminas if they want to do more runs so aigring makes money and its fairer for everyone or then those guilds would stay in guild with their high levels and maybe run dg of their own level to make same amount of points but more gp and possible drops these are the things devs need to think about if they are planning to make more similar events in the future wasn't this the same issue as last snow event when it was Elf vs MC, similar points gathering, it was also max 1k points per day high levels were using lvl 2's in their pt and going dg 6 for points yes, there was no guild requirement, but it was still dodging the 1k per day restriction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azerbaizan 10 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 it's same as ppl going 6lv dg for get 1st rank on weekly; it been happened for years, nobody's saying it's cool, but nobody stopping you/your friends from doing the same. It is just that "most active" wins on these Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcbref 610 Posted November 5, 2021 Author Share Posted November 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Leesince said: wasn't this the same issue as last snow event when it was Elf vs MC, similar points gathering, it was also max 1k points per day high levels were using lvl 2's in their pt and going dg 6 for points yes, there was no guild requirement, but it was still dodging the 1k per day restriction Most likely yes, where there are ways of circumventing limits there will be people doing it for their benefit 42 minutes ago, Azerbaizan said: it's same as ppl going 6lv dg for get 1st rank on weekly; it been happened for years, nobody's saying it's cool, but nobody stopping you/your friends from doing the same. It is just that "most active" wins on these In the case of weeklies there is no limit on players so anyone can spam those dgs to make progress but in the case of qualification tournament points there is a player specific limit after which spammings dgs doesnt make sense @Nolanwhat do you think, did devs have people creating level 2 characters over and over again to get points fo their guild in mind when they designed this event Nolan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azerbaizan 10 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 no, but probably hadnt on mind either people to spam at all 6 level dg for get weekly reward versus those who did 32 level dg, however it just happened. I think it doesnt matter as long someone spend stams there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcbref 610 Posted November 5, 2021 Author Share Posted November 5, 2021 37 minutes ago, Azerbaizan said: no, but probably hadnt on mind either people to spam at all 6 level dg for get weekly reward versus those who did 32 level dg, however it just happened. I think it doesnt matter as long someone spend stams there. probably not and that is one more reason to put rewards to mythical or heroic dgs completed instead of dungeons completed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgings 1824 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 35 minutes ago, Azerbaizan said: no, but probably hadnt on mind either people to spam at all 6 level dg for get weekly reward versus those who did 32 level dg, however it just happened. I think it doesnt matter as long someone spend stams there. That's the point: they don't spend stams there, if not the high level character who carries the entire squad of lv2. Once those lv2 won't be able to run dg anymore, they get deleted. And a new squad is created. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azerbaizan 10 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 4 hours ago, Higgings said: That's the point: they don't spend stams there, if not the high level character who carries the entire squad of lv2. Once those lv2 won't be able to run dg anymore, they get deleted. And a new squad is created. Yeah, there's one guy using stams mostly. But I think anyone can do this way, not just them 4 hours ago, Jcbreff said: probably not and that is one more reason to put rewards to mythical or heroic dgs completed instead of dungeons completed I've waited for it years and years, but every spring I get disappointed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcbref 610 Posted November 6, 2021 Author Share Posted November 6, 2021 13 hours ago, Azerbaizan said: Yeah, there's one guy using stams mostly. But I think anyone can do this way, not just them Anyone could do it of they too wanted to exploit game mechanics, unless you have 2 accounts full of characters you dont want to delete and later restore, so really not everyone can do it But anyway why should they have to use exploits too when they shouldnt be there in the first place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azerbaizan 10 Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 8 hours ago, Jcbreff said: Anyone could do it of they too wanted to exploit game mechanics, unless you have 2 accounts full of characters you dont want to delete and later restore, so really not everyone can do it But anyway why should they have to use exploits too when they shouldnt be there in the first place You dont actually have to delete anything, because those chars are as well full of gift stams from earlier events. people came up like this way long time ago, going 6lv dgs for costume events on weekly rating tournament, getting easy points on last snow side vs side tournament, and it was not changed, so I dont think why it would change now. Not like I'm into it or against it, either way it costs time to someone doing it, I think it is pretty cool if it costs time only, that's proves it's not just pay to win on this scenario, but just the effort Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyrai 290 Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 I suggest block tournament point from chars created on the week Because I considerated this abuse of exploits and more when this event gives you 1 stam free Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcbref 610 Posted November 7, 2021 Author Share Posted November 7, 2021 17 hours ago, Azerbaizan said: You dont actually have to delete anything, because those chars are as well full of gift stams from earlier events. people came up like this way long time ago, going 6lv dgs for costume events on weekly rating tournament, getting easy points on last snow side vs side tournament, and it was not changed, so I dont think why it would change now. Not like I'm into it or against it, either way it costs time to someone doing it, I think it is pretty cool if it costs time only, that's proves it's not just pay to win on this scenario, but just the effort if they just used previously created characters with free gift staminas there wouldnt be any problems but the problem is that they created new characters in order to circumvent the daily 1000 point limit and the need to use those gift staminas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hossein 64 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 its seems some players wants everything for top guilds lmao more chests more buffs gvg/chaos/wars/arena awards and ... not all players can join top guilds and missing most of rewards stuffs and still some players comes with this words! how about removing low level dgs 🧐 Higgings 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcbref 610 Posted December 7, 2021 Author Share Posted December 7, 2021 22 minutes ago, Puppymaster said: its seems some players wants everything for top guilds lmao more chests more buffs gvg/chaos/wars/arena awards and ... not all players can join top guilds and missing most of rewards stuffs and still some players comes with this words! how about removing low level dgs 🧐 Even without alliances same guild would be in top 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hossein 64 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, Jcbreff said: Even without alliances same guild would be in top 5 all i know u guys wants everything for top 2 3 guilds ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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