PoleyKathi 120 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 Hola Roland/Snorlax/Laonza Is there a possibility u dev check and compare these magic def stats of 10+ rings/ammulet etc I see 10+ shamans,druids,mages locks hitting 190+ dmg on ranger classes Ofc i understand the ppl who amp 10+ should be rewarded with this def But serious whats with these castors who also amped 10+ and doing 190+ magic dmg because u guys give them the possibility to reach over 6k magic def ... I mean than give us cloth users the chance to reach 5k+ physical defence.... Also the 1v1,2v2 is ruined with the magic def + this enormous heal= everlasting fights (druids,shamans,) Also the castor nerf was unneccesary because of the "ampable" magic defence I mean if i meet enemies with 6k magic defence and i Hit them 190+ With a 10+ wep (404 magic attack) there is smth not right Idk how other people see this but im out till this system is balanced again good day everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shino90 0 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 You can read my suggestion about mage and warlock : http://forum.warspear-online.com/index.php?topic=101497.0 The only way to defeat them is to have much higher damage, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deltaman 4 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 Screw you, casters! ;D But srsly, I don't get why other classes than those who can wear heavy armor can have that much magic def. Heavyy arom classes are suppoused to be extra defensive, but all other classes can get as much magic def as them. Btw, wasn't you that +10 druid with 50% def against physical? I mean, if so, you casters can also get a ridiculous amount of def. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoleyKathi 120 Posted February 8, 2014 Author Share Posted February 8, 2014 Screw you, casters! ;D But srsly, I don't get why other classes than those who can wear heavy armor can have that much magic def. Heavyy arom classes are suppoused to be extra defensive, but all other classes can get as much magic def as them. Btw, wasn't you that +10 druid with 50% def against physical? I mean, if so, you casters can also get a ridiculous amount of def. Idk who spread the rumour tht casters are able to obtain 50% phy def ....Full 9+/10+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hourai 139 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 50% Physical def is impossible for a Caster Even full +10 and Guild buffs along with pot scrolls it's impossible, will say the same for lv5 barkskin/earth shield all together in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbabaroix 3 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 węw polęy my dŗųįd goţ moŗę dęƒ dāŋ ų +6 şţāƒƒ āgāįŋşţ. +10 şţāƒƒ dāţş āŋoţђęŗ ţopįç ālţogęţђęŗ :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frikid 0 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 I agree 100% Casters got so noob and this is talking about +10 casters hitting 190+ damage, not everybody can get +10 easily , so think about those little +5 casters who have around 280 damage, they will hit those guys what? 90+? What is this a joke? Moreover, rings and amulet of all classes provide same type of m.def , so cloth users can have as much mdef as heavy armour user. Please look into this issue :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lallouss 851 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 druid is meant for supporting, not engaging in tanking nor dealing more dmg over dmg dealer enemies :good: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoleyKathi 120 Posted February 8, 2014 Author Share Posted February 8, 2014 druid is meant for supporting, not engaging in tanking nor dealing more dmg over dmg dealer enemies :good: I still expect from a 10+ wep dealing more than 200+ dmg ...Even if the "support class" always raped and will rape palas in Arena :friends: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lallouss 851 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 I still expect from a 10+ wep dealing more than 200+ dmg ... Even if the "support class" always raped and will rape palas in Arena :friends: paladins meant for defence n support not offence, warspear is not all about arena u know :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoleyKathi 120 Posted February 8, 2014 Author Share Posted February 8, 2014 paladins meant for defence n support not offence, warspear is not all about arena u know :) Thank you for this information :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christiano 0 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 Are you saying that it was balanced before update ? Melee vs. Casters .... :bad: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoleyKathi 120 Posted February 8, 2014 Author Share Posted February 8, 2014 Are you saying that it was balanced before update ? Melee vs. Casters .... :bad: Read my topic again , i never said it was balanced before update Ofc melees rangers etc say " hey i love 5k magicdef let it be like tht" But if i make my staff 10+ i expect more than 200+ dmg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smilga 1 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 So +10 casters are noob? If I were a +10 druid, I wouldn't complain, because very few can achieve that 6k magic def you know... Every average player has 1-2k magic def and you have 400 damage and ~300 heal. That's pretty op to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christiano 0 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 Read my topic again , i never said it was balanced before update Ofc melees rangers etc say " hey i love 5k magicdef let it be like tht" But if i make my staff 10+ i expect more than 200+ dmg Then you should think twice about using money on mobile game. But we (Melees) can't still win any caster because of you (Casters) have over powered kiting system. Especially when we are talking about healing classes with their huge healing and longest cc in game. There is solution for this problem that will get my word.. Destroy whole amp system... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamoae 1 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 seriously poley, are you really complaining about high magic defense? as a caster class, you do achieve around 50% damage reduction against melles. you now have enough heal and defense to just stand in front of a melle class and tank. even if the guy is +10. feels bad to have your attacked lowered by 40-50%? well, melles have this feeling all the time facing each other or even facing casters like yourself, acridtwo n others +9 +10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladygi 33 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 Arena time limit is too short, really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoleyKathi 120 Posted February 8, 2014 Author Share Posted February 8, 2014 seriously poley, are you really complaining about high magic defense? as a caster class, you do achieve around 50% damage reduction against melles. you now have enough heal and defense to just stand in front of a melle class and tank. even if the guy is +10. feels bad to have your attacked lowered by 40-50%? well, melles have this feeling all the time facing each other or even facing casters like yourself, acridtwo n others +9 +10. 50% Physical def is impossible for a Caster Even full +10 and Guild buffs along with pot scrolls it's impossible, will say the same for lv5 barkskin/earth shield all together in Just saying that u can bet ill make myself the highest possible magic def for druids Just saying that this system of magic def will affect nearly all lower amped ppl Castors 7+ and down will Do much dmg... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jswaaz 87 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 +10 support character can heal a ton + do decent damage no problem here maybe if you want to do damage, do a dps class not a support class :) druids arent supposed to be able to deal a ton of damage, aww do you want casters to be overpowered again? :cray: the fact your heal was buffed but you neglected to mention it really shows how biased your opinions are and in reality all you want is to be able to kill every class possible but thats NOT possible when theirs a COMBAT TRIANGLE let me get this straight, you want highest heal + highest damage? are you ignorant? my lv14 priest has over 2300+ physical defense WITHOUT a guild, as somebody mentioned before youre lying and just mad you cant kill support characters whos main job is to keep themselves alive :facepalm: i dare you to say im wrong, i have alot of other stuff worth mentioning if you feel the need to complain more about your max heal :snorlax: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoleyKathi 120 Posted February 8, 2014 Author Share Posted February 8, 2014 +10 support character can heal a ton + do decent damage no problem here maybe if you want to do damage, do a dps class not a support class :) druids arent supposed to be able to deal a ton of damage, aww do you want casters to be overpowered again? :cray: the fact your heal was buffed but you neglected to mention it really shows how biased your opinions are and in reality all you want is to be able to kill every class possible but thats NOT possible when theirs a COMBAT TRIANGLE let me get this straight, you want highest heal + highest damage? are you ignorant? my lv14 priest has over 2300+ physical defense WITHOUT a guild, as somebody mentioned before youre lying and just mad you cant kill support characters whos main job is to keep themselves alive :facepalm: i dare you to say im wrong, i have alot of other stuff worth mentioning if you feel the need to complain more about your max heal :snorlax: decrease my heal i came along with 175 heal on 404 dmg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jswaaz 87 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 youre lying about max physical defense for druid AND max heal for druid my lv14 druid has more heal then you and only 200 less physical defense then what youre saying you have stop lying, deal with the fact you play a support character not a dps character :facepalm: dps beats healers healers beat tanks tanks beat dps its no longer druid beats everything, keep crying one can argue further that rangers/rogues are different dps then mages/warlocks for instance, ranger/rogue beats healer but not tank warlock/mage beats tank but not healer theirs a combat triangle for a reason, everything is balanced according to class type, no certain class can beat every class anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoleyKathi 120 Posted February 8, 2014 Author Share Posted February 8, 2014 youre lying about max physical defense for druid AND max heal for druid my lv14 druid has more heal then you and only 200 less physical defense then what youre saying you have stop lying, deal with the fact you play a support character not a dps character :facepalm: dps beats healers healers beat tanks tanks beat dps its no longer druid beats everything, keep crying one can argue further that rangers/rogues are different dps then mages/warlocks for instance, ranger/rogue beats healer but not tank warlock/mage beats tank but not healer theirs a combat triangle for a reason, everything is balanced according to class type, no certain class can beat every class anymore i never said its max defence as you can see my magic def is 1,6k i put magic def on my gear i can reach over 3k+ defAcridtwo hit even 3,5k+ but with that you give up resilence and other stats i mean what the heck you want from me i play druid since i began and know everything about my class Dps > healer Bring me any char in sapphire as an enemy i promise you he/she wont be able to kill me 2time in a row in a pvp Your years too late to instruct me about this class PS: 6k magic def ...have fun with any castor not only druid/shaman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecha 118 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 50% physical def on cloth? Then what is heavy armor, 80% def? :lol: whats a "melle"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jswaaz 87 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 >complains people can amp magic defense which balances the game for melee >doesnt use penetration rings gloves or amulet against high magic defense seems legit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoleyKathi 120 Posted February 8, 2014 Author Share Posted February 8, 2014 >doesnt use penetration rings gloves or amulet against high magic defense Doesnt help u against 6k+ magic def Instead of lurking on forum and crying for attention on my threads better go with your lowlevel -know-how to a different section , This is Level 20 Arena not Ur "oldench im stuck on 8+ " section Dont compare lvl 14 druids with lvl 20 druids Ps: yes i accept any pvp i told you chicken ^~^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsja 1 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 Level 14 is not exactly the same as level 20... Other values of gear, skills, HP, etc. So also other rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jswaaz 87 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 i made my point, and you countered my point with accusations of being stupid hey instead of name calling, why dont you prove me wrong? you realize penetration cuts down defense based on %? do you even know what your complaining about? you said nothing that proved me wrong ps. you didnt accept pvp ^_^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkzain 0 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Problems >+10 casters hit 180-200 on hassn >endless pvps healer vs healer >no fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jswaaz 87 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Problems >+10 casters hit 180-200 on hassn >endless pvps healer vs healer >no fun >hassn doesnt have a heal skill or long ranged attacks >stop being stupid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherrybia 17 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Darkzain, Hassn is a case apart. Full +10, max resi, max HP becouse of his guild, extra % dmg cus of rings and amulets. Also the cape whit 10% dmg cus he was #1 in arena. Don't talk about Hassn, he is 1 in one million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamoae 1 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Just saying that u can bet ill make myself the highest possible magic def for druids Just saying that this system of magic def will affect nearly all lower amped ppl Castors 7+ and down will Do much dmg... well, as long as you dont make 60% defense against melles, go as high as you can on magic defense :lol: and dont worry about +7 and below, they will have a heal of at least 210, and if they smart, i sure they wont die so easily :blush: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherrybia 17 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 But he was using pots sis! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sternriter 0 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 guys just wait for new skill and ayvondil, this update is coz future updates, it will balance when the time is come, mage and warlock more weak now, poley u a druid, u have heal and root, u can run and kill easy, u pro and rich. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoleyKathi 120 Posted February 9, 2014 Author Share Posted February 9, 2014 guys just wait for new skill and ayvondil, this update is coz future updates, it will balance when the time is come, mage and warlock more weak now, poley u a druid, u have heal and root, u can run and kill easy, u pro and rich. Lol its ok :D ill just make myself highest amount of magic def ;D im talking for lower amped people and their ways to break through this "magicdef" i made my point, and you countered my point with accusations of being stupid hey instead of name calling, why dont you prove me wrong? you realize penetration cuts down defense based on %? do you even know what your complaining about? you said nothing that proved me wrong ps. you didnt accept pvp ^_^ that what i mean u compare lvl 14 arena with lvl 20 arena :Dpenetration on druids/shamans :unknw: just proving me that u really are stuck on ur low level- know- how how about you accept the fact ur "arena advice is worthless"? go back to pve and don't put ur nose into pvp where you dont belong :clapping: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladygi 33 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Kathi be like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoleyKathi 120 Posted February 9, 2014 Author Share Posted February 9, 2014 Kathi be like ;D sis always make me smile! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladygi 33 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 ;D sis always make me smile! devs be like this too XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jswaaz 87 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 edit: :blush: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maleshaman 15 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 No need to look up on it, theres still strategies to kill 6k mdef users. Not gonna lie, it is a hell of a challange ._. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sternriter 0 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 this game unbalance *hi*, even if have magic def high, healer still OP, crap update, amp high, high heal too, unbalance game, now called it unbalancespear *hi* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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