juniorcel 0 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 A sham would need a insane amount of lucky to beat a lock without a lsittle running... just face the facts if your up aginst a +9 or 10 without a kite u will loose. I have seen it. Many times with the best locks and shams on us sapp and experienced it to. The locks on eu must be some really dumb ♥♥♥♥s to loose to a sham without kite..... oh wait I forgot most eu players have no skill. Just amp +10 or kill some +10s tht don't know how. To pvp and you're pro. Huehuehuehue hmm wish I could pvp u . EU has some of best locks and shamans Spanish can kick ass of any sapphire shaman . And in team work tocino is one of best lock that comes to my mind . If lothain gets to +9 he will easily kick ass of any +10 sapp lock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frikid 0 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Then youve never seen a pro Shaman. I wouldnt be surprised if the top 5 US Shamans dont even reach 170 heal and use lv3-5 Quake, even lv3 is bad. what is wrong with lvl 5 quake, i like quake spam at nadir and arena , melee just watch me standing there. :lol: I think quake best skill, AOE+Stun+Damage. Blind also OP :aggressive: But if i have to set up my shaman solely for pvp lock, i would go for 3 ball 5 heal 5 blind 3 shield and 1 quake. quake useless against lock unless u want to run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shitzo 37 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Reread the post. I've had lv5 quake for my whole life, lv1 quake is just so bad I wouldn't even use it at all. Even 3 is not good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frikid 0 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Reread the post. I've had lv5 quake for my whole life, lv1 quake is just so bad I wouldn't even use it at all. Even 3 is not good enough. You said they use lvl3-5 quake as if its a bad thing. duck this, lvl 5 quake rocks, great minds think alike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shitzo 37 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 " Top 5 Shamans DONT have above 170 heal and lv3-5 quake " " even lv3 quake is bad " - Not good enough. And yes lv5 quake is so badass. It's like a free 5 second "kite" against locks except you are not running and they will probably fail circle or have fear locked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulla 127 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 If you cant kill a Lock without kiting then I bet I would. Before guild buff's, Spanish had to kite me 3x and heal up after once circle, at the time +7 lock vs +10 Best shaman ingame, to much dmg to not kite even at +7.now a +10 lock is able to get u around 1k hp in one combo most of the time, next circle dead if doesn't bug, unless luck out on crit heal's and have crazy dark def / mix or bug there circle's till non stop fails, will not win without a little kiting, depending amp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoleyKathi 120 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Before guild buff's, Spanish had to kite me 3x and heal up after once circle, at the time +7 lock vs +10 Best shaman ingame, to much dmg to not kite even at +7. now a +10 lock is able to get u around 1k hp in one combo most of the time, next circle dead if doesn't bug, unless luck out on crit heal's and have crazy dark def / mix or bug there circle's till non stop fails, will not win without a little kiting, depending amp. ty sensei Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shitzo 37 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Spanish has 170 heal and not even lv5 quake, he would probably lose to a BD without running the whole time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish 37 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Spanish has 170 heal and not even lv5 quake, he would probably lose to a BD without running the whole time. 169*, and you will copy it exactly if I let you know Launa loved it. You can ask her. If she ever capable to vocalize back again for reply ;) :) ;) :) ;) :) ;) :) No doubt too astral enchant over moon for 1 v 1 and can be double better for long fights but you will feel a +5 weaksauce when alone at crossing outnumbered vs healers or at arena if your partner rush and will be very short battle. About quake i always liked it maxed XD PvP a BD without quake but just blind is like a casino roulette where you put all your money to a 2% parry chance and praise god he get blinded far of your way. If Shitley can PvP +10 BD without kiting, advice me for watch I log my lvl 1 bank Shitza for offer condolences to Lex and cry over your grave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hourai 139 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shitzo 37 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Easy. 230 heal 3k HP. 5 Blind 5 Quake. Just tank the Hamstring, Quake move back 3 steps, Blind after Quake, by then you are full Hp and repeat til he dies from 200 moon. Same thing with Warlock except Warlock would be easier if he Circle'd like a tard while Quaked only to notice you are 1 yard from the Circle then he dies from 200 moon just like the BD. And this is assuming I'm +8. And you switched from 5 Quake to 5 Ball cuz it wasn't " enough damage for PvP " like every Shaman does. Shitza won't even be able to move cuz Ghostdark will spam exchange anyways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish 37 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Easy. 230 heal 3k HP. 5 Blind 5 Quake. Just tank the Hamstring, Quake move back 3 steps, Blind after Quake, by then you are full Hp and repeat til he dies from 200 moon. Same thing with Warlock except Warlock would be easier if he Circle'd like a tard while Quaked only to notice you are 1 yard from the Circle then he dies from 200 moon just like the BD. And this is assuming I'm +8. And you switched from 5 Quake to 5 Ball cuz it wasn't " enough damage for PvP " like every Shaman does. Shitza won't even be able to move cuz Ghostdark will spam exchange anyways That with moon enchant will be even faster, with astral you just make the BD agonize more and mad so the chance he pot raise and you can't tank 2 ham of good BD xd or 2 circle or 1 of Moreb with steroids and 550 dark I used many books when paranoid in same day same we did with paraRoid and Shy ranger at arena with 6 traps making +10 shamans and locks 0 dmg then feeling shit at cross without scatter but I always ended with 5 quake before day over lol Ghostdark still owe me annoy people and you know if I promise him 1m for kill he won't stop coming 24 h so watch out xd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shitzo 37 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Na 230 heal with 24% crit should be nuff to heal to atleast 80% HP, with +9-10 armour and 18% Resil it should be cake like when my Rogue takes a +10 Ham and doesn't die in one go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish 37 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 like when my Rogue takes a +10 Ham and doesn't die in one go. Wish shaman could dodge x 5 in a row to Mdea/Bestmaan as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shitzo 37 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 without dodge xD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluguyy 1 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Before guild buff's, Spanish had to kite me 3x and heal up after once circle, at the time +7 lock vs +10 Best shaman ingame, to much dmg to not kite even at +7. now a +10 lock is able to get u around 1k hp in one combo most of the time, next circle dead if doesn't bug, unless luck out on crit heal's and have crazy dark def / mix or bug there circle's till non stop fails, will not win without a little kiting, depending amp. wise man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulla 127 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Spanish has 170 heal and not even lv5 quake, he would probably lose to a BD without running the whole time. nope, 170 heal only when used full violent acc build, which he never did in arena unless trolling, and 90% of the time he had 5 quake, and +9 armour couldn't tank mdea or any +10 bd, there dots hit 200. Easy. 230 heal 3k HP. 5 Blind 5 Quake. mofh shaman has them stat's. couldn't tank my +9 arena staff without kiting, and he was good on shaman, locks can catch people without heal if timed right + leave leech and puddle on them after a blind, and wont heal up much before next arrow > circle , fear combo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shitzo 37 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Assuming the Shaman doesn't Quake and move. I think everyone forgot the range difference of Blind and Fear, who do you think will have control of the fight. A smart Shaman with +10 Astral enchant with GT mix with arena or a smart +10 Lock? I dunno with you guys but I'd definitely not walk towards that Circle. All he even has to do is Quake him and move like 2 steps back for that 7 yard distance and then wait for blind to cd and heal up norming the Lock. I don't think you guys even understand, not running doesn't mean you're just gonna stand there like an idiot, it litterally means not running from the enemy. And I bet my arse that Lock would even do the same, he's not just gonna stand there and eat the Blind and lose control of the fight. Plus I would like to see full Dark def +10 astral set, if the Lock doesn't get lucky crits then he's most likely ♥♥♥♥ed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulla 127 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 All he even has to do is Quake him and move like 2 steps back for that 7 yard distance and then wait for blind to cd and heal up norming the Lock. which is kiting, can't tank a +10 lock without a little, very little, or big, doesn't matter, kiting, that is all, life is dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shitzo 37 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Exactly. Now you understand. Kiting and running are two completely different things because when you are running you look like a pussy, when you are kiting you look like a boss. That was my whole point. Only a dumbarse would PvP standing on the same spot, if moving 5 steps when using a CC is illegal then the person who made that rule should be hung. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoleyKathi 120 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 teach me ur both proness :'( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulla 127 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 had to kite, to much dmg to not kite.will not win without a little kiting,. If you cant kill a Lock without kiting then I bet I would. Kiting and running are two completely different things because when you are running you look like a pussy, when you are kiting you look like a boss. That was my whole point. Only a dumbarse would PvP standing on the same spot, if moving 5 steps when using a CC is illegal then the person who made that rule should be hung. 6 more posts and im out of here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shitzo 37 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Well it's all just common sense. When have you ever seen a PvP tournament or even just a normal one where the players weren't allowed to move nearly everyone define kiting as running here when it's actually just keeping distance from your enemy while you pull off cheapshots not stunning the enemy and running round half of the map taking 5 steps back for a shaman vs lock would be completely fair and not moving at all would be so unfair and stupid so taking 5 steps back when quaking in this tournament would be completely fair but some newbs don't even think and assume running from the lock while healing self is the only way a Shaman would beat a Lock Doing as I've stated wouldn't even look like kiting and would give no reason for the Warlock to bitch about it and that was my entire point. Since obviously what everyone here is thinking is that the Shaman would Blind the Warlock and run for heal, I doubt anyone would think otherwise aswell, it was also my first thought before remember how to rape Barbarians with lv4 trap and lv2 scatter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princeka 0 Posted January 25, 2014 Author Share Posted January 25, 2014 Any 1 join more ? :unknw: Its pvp topic not Discuss topic :cray: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish 37 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Yes better back to main topic, will be fun follow thread xD >In b4 players complaints about PvP photoshoped pictures or scammed gold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melfice 20 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Necro not allowed 8) right ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x 52 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Necro not allowed 8) right ... Idk if ur a stupid/trying to be a stupid/acting like a stupid. Dude all this discussion & the title of the topic n u didnt understand :facepalm: .Omg! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princeka 0 Posted January 28, 2014 Author Share Posted January 28, 2014 some one more for join? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melfice 20 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Idk if ur a stupid/trying to be a stupid/acting like a stupid. Dude all this discussion & the title of the topic n u didnt understand :facepalm: . Omg! OMG kid XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkzain 0 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 OMG kid XD no you really are stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXxwarlockxXX 0 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 1 think u miss caza , dnt run in pvp when range vs range xD warlock vs shaman dnt run like u .... runner . xD u run when u pvp same on u lol ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayThug 0 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Shit Im in. Quevo lvl 19 shaman. ABC? I think. lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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