Absolute Reflexes (Passive)

[Speedom 281]

What's the percentage you get for dodge and attack speed each level? 1/4 - 4/4?

 

Also, does the skill stacks per dodge or you received the buff according to it's level?

 

Off topic:

Daggers with attack speed vs swords with attack speed.

How faster are daggers with attack speed vs swords with attack speed? 

 

Edited November 7, 2020 by Speedom

[Speedom 281]

Duration - 5-7-10-14 seconds.
Increase the "Evasion" parameter - 5-7-10-15%
Increase the "Attack speed" parameter - 8-12-18-22%

 

I found it and your welcome for those who needed the information.

Edited November 7, 2020 by Speedom

[Ogull 421]

On 11/7/2020 at 12:56 PM, Speedom said:

Off topic:

Daggers with attack speed vs swords with attack speed.

How faster are daggers with attack speed vs swords with attack speed? 

quoting someone who knows more about rogue than me...

 

 

i would say daggers for rogue, because rogue have easier job of reaching max attack speed without speed stats on gear giving him more options to increase other stats like crit, accuracy, etc..

 

the formula for attack speed goes as following:

weapon base attack speed * character attack speed

(you would add another one cuz rogue hold 2 weapons) so it goes like that

((weapon base attack speed * character attack speed) + (weapon base attack speed * character attack speed)) % 1.5

 

so for daggers it would be like that (considering the rogue has max attack speed)

((1.7 * 0.3) + (1.7 * 0.3)) / 1.5 = 0.68

so roughly daggers attack twice every second

 

for swords its

((2.0 * 0.3) + (2.0 * 0.3)) % 1.5 = 0.8

 

just if you are interested about axes

((2.2 * 0.3) + (2.2 * 0.3)) % 1.5 = 0.88

so considering these numbers, for every 2~3 attacks the axe do, daggers do 1 more

Edited November 9, 2020 by 0gull

[Speedom 281]

5 minutes ago, 0gull said:

quoting someone who knows more about rogue than me...

 

 

i would say daggers for rogue, because rogue have easier job of reaching max attack speed without speed stats on gear giving him more options to increase other stats like crit, accuracy, etc..

 

the formula for attack speed goes as following:

weapon base attack speed * character attack speed

(you would add another one cuz rogue hold 2 weapons) so it goes like that

((weapon base attack speed * character attack speed) + (weapon base attack speed * character attack speed)) % 1.5

 

so for daggers it would be like that (considering the rogue has max attack speed)

((1.7 * 0.7) + (1.7 * 0.7)) % 1.5 = 1.58

so roughly daggers attack once every second and half

 

for swords its

((2.0 * 0.7) + (2.0 * 0.7)) % 1.5 = 1.86

 

just if you are interested about axes

((2.2 * 0.7) + (2.2 * 0.7)) % 1.5 = 2.05

so considering these numbers, for every 4 attack the axe do, daggers do 1 more

Oh nice thank you!

[Zurp 462]

6 hours ago, 0gull said:

so for daggers it would be like that (considering the rogue has max attack speed)

((1.7 * 0.7) + (1.7 * 0.7)) % 1.5 = 1.58

You need to multiply with 0.3 (or 1-0.7) to get the correct delay between attacks. Daggers with max atk speed hit every 0.68 seconds.

[Ogull 421]

On 11/7/2020 at 8:56 PM, Zurp said:

You need to multiply with 0.3 (or 1-0.7) to get the correct delay between attacks. Daggers with max atk speed hit every 0.68 seconds.

that's not how it work unfortunately, i don't know how you calculated it, but just by observing  a 2 dagger wielder attack without calculation you would see that he hit much slower than every 0.68 seconds

 

i presume you did your calculation like that

(1.7 * 0.3 + 1.7 * 0.3) / 1.5 = 0.68

which is actually wrong, this how it should be done

you would need to reduce the 0.3 from the base attack of the weapon as following

1.7*0.3 = 0.51 < this would be reduced from the base attack speed

thus 1.7 - 0.51 = 1.19, then we add the other weapon

1.19+1.19 = 2.38 then we divide by 1.5 thus 2.38/1.5= 1.58

 

this is the easier way to calculate it

N = (R * x + L * x)/1.5.

R = Initial speed of the right weapon.

L = Initial speed of the left weapon.

x = Amount of attack speed in %.

 

(1.7 * 0.7 + 1.7 * 0.7)/1.5 = 1.58

Daggers with max atk speed hit every 1.58* seconds

 

shoutout to @ Kunka for sharing all this as i said above i don't know much about rogue

 

Edited November 13, 2020 by 0gull

[Speedom 281]

Enlightening Me!

[Zurp 462]

9 hours ago, 0gull said:

that's not how it work unfortunately, i don't know how you calculated it, but just by observing  a 2 dagger wielder attack without calculation you would see that he hit much slower than every 0.68 seconds

 

First hit is done at 4.16, 10th hit is at 11.01. Average delay between hits is 0.685 seconds. Download the video and check in editor if you don't believe me.

 

9 hours ago, 0gull said:

this is the easier way to calculate it

N = (R * x + L * x)/1.5.

R = Initial speed of the right weapon.

L = Initial speed of the left weapon.

x = Amount of attack speed in %.

 

(1.7 * 0.7 + 1.7 * 0.7)/1.5 = 1.58

Lets use your equation with 10% atk speed.

(1.7 * 0.1 + 1.7 * 0.1)/1.5 = 0.2267

Something doesn't add up. I possibly can't hit faster with less atk speed..

 

9 hours ago, 0gull said:

you would need to reduce the 0.3 from the base attack of the weapon as following

1.7*0.3 = 0.51 < this would be reduced from the base attack speed

thus 1.7 - 0.51 = 1.19, then we add the other weapon

I don't know where you got that reducing part from. 

Edited November 8, 2020 by Zurp

[Ogull 421]

hmmm you might be right, look like how much should be taking off the base attack speed from how much should remains got confused due to Russian to English google translation, i need to correct my numbers for anyone that might read this later on...

Edited November 9, 2020 by 0gull

[Ogull 421]

On 11/8/2020 at 10:33 AM, 0gull said:

you would need to reduce the 0.3 from the base attack of the weapon as following

1.7*0.3 = 0.51 < this would be reduced from the base attack speed

thus 1.7 - 0.51 = 1.19, then we add the other weapon

1.19+1.19 = 2.38 then we divide by 1.5 thus 2.38/1.5= 1.58

this still is correct but you need to reduce how much the attack speed reduced which is 70% of 1.7 so

1.7*0.7 = 1.19 < this would be reduced from the base attack speed instead of the remaining 0.3 or 30% attack speed

1.7-1.19 = 0.51, then we add the other weapon

0.51+0.51 = 1.02 then we divide by 1.5 thus 1.02/1.5 = 0.68

Edited November 9, 2020 by 0gull

[Ogull 421]

16 hours ago, Zurp said:

(1.7 * 0.1 + 1.7 * 0.1)/1.5 = 0.2267

this would also work if you reduced the 0.2267 from the base 1.7 so 1.7-0.22 = 1.48, almost 1.48 attack speed from each weapon

Edited November 9, 2020 by 0gull

[Gamander 1]

So an easy formula is (1.7*(1-0.7))*2 all / 1.5

(Base speed weapon( base speed - ur speed))* number of weapons / 1.5