Will aigrind release the odds someday ?

[Aglaophotis 35]

The random is a predominant mecanic of the game. I'd like to see, for exemple, the odds of amping (instead of an inacurate "average" that hides something like 5%), the percentages associated with the different loot.

 

We all know this game is using the player frustration by telling them "everyone wins" altough awarding a very fews. 

 

Wouldn't it make the game healthier if players were playing mindful of the actual odds ? 

 

this aspect of the game is taboo for obvious reasons, but isn't it time to have a real discussion about that ?

[Khrone 648]

Example, every skill should be like new skills that show every %, even the damage?

[Jcbref 610]

If warspear is ever officially released in china then yes 

[Khrone 648]

5 minutes ago, Jcbreff said:

If warspear is ever officially released in china then yes 

China doesn't have WS?

[TheCaster 361]

1 hour ago, Jcbreff said:

If warspear is ever officially released in china then yes 

Why this condition specifically? 

[Khrone 648]

43 minutes ago, TheCaster said:

Why this condition specifically? 

Maybe because the asians are good at maths, so they can discover the skills formulas themselves

[Jcbref 610]

2 hours ago, Khrone said:

China doesn't have WS?

Not officially

[Jcbref 610]

1 hour ago, TheCaster said:

Why this condition specifically? 

Something to do with chinese laws, we have discussed something like this before

 

30 minutes ago, Khrone said:

Maybe because the asians are good at maths, so they can discover the skills formulas themselves

You dont even need to be that good at maths, you just need to have large enough sample size

[TheCaster 361]

27 minutes ago, Jcbreff said:

 

Have to admit, Kinda disappointed after reading this thread. Expected a bit more transparency at the end of the discussion instead of the abrupt hammer down. Thank you for answering anyway. @Jcbreff !

[Khrone 648]

11 minutes ago, TheCaster said:

Have to admit, Kinda disappointed after reading this thread. Expected a bit more transparency at the end of the discussion instead of the abrupt hammer down. Thank you for answering anyway. @Jcbreff !

The only part of this post that i agree is that the amp chance and drop rate of chests needs to be revealed

[Jcbref 610]

16 minutes ago, TheCaster said:

Have to admit, Kinda disappointed after reading this thread. Expected a bit more transparency at the end of the discussion instead of the abrupt hammer down. Thank you for answering anyway. @Jcbreff !

I mean, its not good business method because reason as to why people gamble is that they dont know how likely they are to get something and that builds dopamine in brains

[Sigma 363]

the concept of amplification is very abstract if the players were aware of the probabilities and amplification +10 as a guarantee of old age with a number x of stamps I believe that the expenses of the players would be lower say that amplification is just luck but there is a probability and this is the one I don't know how it works after +8 +9 +10.

[lore 318]

i just hope one day someone eught crazy goes to calculate those odds

[Ogull 421]

On 7/19/2020 at 7:03 PM, lore said:

i just hope one day someone eught crazy goes to calculate those odds

or just hack the game and see the code

[Lordeznuts 10]

On 7/21/2020 at 1:00 AM, FakeUser said:

or just hack the game and see the code

Hmmm yeah good idea. Maybe you can try to do some things...

[Aglaophotis 35]

On 7/22/2020 at 2:44 PM, Lordeznuts said:

Hmmm yeah good idea. Maybe you can try to do some things...

It's an online game, everything, from your character position to RNG is decided from the server. Players would have datamined long time ago.

[Akasha 2058]

On 7/17/2020 at 4:46 PM, Jcbreff said:

 

you didn't necropost that one

 

[Akasha 2058]

On 7/19/2020 at 7:03 PM, lore said:

i just hope one day someone ought crazy goes to calculate those odds

I imagine that Russians have their guess. 

 

On 7/17/2020 at 12:18 AM, Aglaophotis said:

We all know this game is using the player frustration by telling them "everyone wins" altough awarding a very fews. 

Interesting, I haven't heard such statement myself. 🤔

 

Every player can have a full experience by participating in all game activities with a regular amplification and have fun, with a set which you can obtain with a reasonable time and effort, if you progress wisely and actively do the free resource/reward earning events/quests/etc, and this is what is offered to users. If you want to go for +10 despite the odds. It makes your game easier and you will obtain advantage while competing for a status in PvP such as a top player in your server, top in a tournament, a mythical achievement, and so on. This is another possibility that is offered for the ones who can invest and want to do so, there is no need for +10 to enjoy the game and it doesn't make the your overall experience necessarily better. Because I personally have had a lot of fun playing with weak heroes which I wouldn't have if I was overpowered. In addition, the reward system doesn't choose what users obtain the best drops, so that everyone get the same chances. 

 Well, this is my view and I ask you to respect. I'm not open to discuss it, and by no means I am answering by the company. 

[Jcbref 610]

3 hours ago, Akasha said:

you didn't necropost that one

 

it is most recent relevant topic to this discussion that we have had

[lore 318]

16 hours ago, Akasha said:

I imagine that Russians have their guess. 

I have an general idea that all costumes droprates are between 1 and 2% (from bosses and dungeons)