lallouss 854 Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 which weapon is better in pvp or arena 17 arena or 18 doom.. Doesnt matter which class u are or ur pvping.. Just say ur opinion ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafa9876 149 Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 18 LIKE A BOSS 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSeby 0 Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 i go for arena... Ress=pvp. With my rogue with 22.6 ress and 1900def, low amps +4-+6 and weapons +7 and +6 i killed a bd full +10- withot ress i think but doom sword +10 and knife+10. So i go for arena for pvp ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darksoul II 0 Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 I'd definetily go for resilence for arena, penetration has 0% effect on resilence whereas resilence reduces all kinds of dmg, reduces chance for enemies to crit on you, and it also reduces their crit damage on you. Lvl 18 got higher damage, but is in my opinion, more suitable for pve battles. (One of the main reasons why i'm not going for doom weapon on my main CASTER class) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shitzo 37 Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 It depends on the stats for example Scout Gladius Mage/Warlock arena > SD You don't just pick arena weapon because it has resilience and you don't just pick sudden doom weapon cause it's the best in game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lallouss 854 Posted April 13, 2013 Author Share Posted April 13, 2013 It depends on the stats for example Scout Gladius < Blade of Sudden Doom Mage/Warlock arena > SD You don't just pick arena weapon because it has resilience and you don't just pick sudden doom weapon cause it's the best in game. best answer ive seen till now :good: i see 70% people thinking scout gladius is great but his acc is shitier than my grandmas aim.. dager arena 17 still better than the sword Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flaszek 1 Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 For warlock SD (Like a Boss :dirol: ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luvis 1 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 ;D i think Arena probably better....Except nahnnew sword which is probably lame....but for warlock is like cool(for pvp) 5% resilense we cant throw that away for a pemeation.... :tease: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panchen 90 Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 doom is for richs or lucky asses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbabaroix 3 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 17 cuz i just raped an obviously high amp necro with a +1 stave with astral bonus activated :spiteful: .....or maybe my dark def was too much for him to handle :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crossfit 4 Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 17 arena weapon better not only for the way for get it , depend ... waste on tickets and sd easy got on swamps or :spiteful: hunting it in eye on easy secret mode :spiteful: , you win more resilence and in my opinion is good than sd weapons I used sd weapons aloooooot of time till christmas I get hacked and got deleted many items and costumes.... anyway I was thinking to use full arena set mixted lvl 15 , 17 with critical and full runes resilence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodylipa 1 Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 (+) Stats goes before lvl of the item, dont think just cause its lv18 its the best choice. Still rocking full mix gear on my 1h DK, equiped lv13, lv15, lv17 and lv18 items. (+) Ask yourself, how do i wanna play this char? and then you pick a path and build stats according. You dont need maxed resi to preforme good in arena (though its cheap and easy way to reach good pvp preformance) For me the rest of my gear and my current stat situation would be what i base my decission on if i would want to use arena or SD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vamppire 2 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 ofc lvl17 arena weap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrack 0 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 For my warlock i have SD for hunts and pvp, but arena vs 2x ranger / rouges i use arena staff cuz with this i have 23% resi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hourai 139 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 For casters, obviously arena to survive if you get caught. I dont know melee so i cant help you. Whoever the duck says mage must use arena, kill yourself. As a mage, you only must think of damage. Kamikaze fast, kill it fast, or live long, die slow, do no damage. You have no chance. On mage, SD > Arena. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vamppire 2 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 sd only for mobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSeby 0 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Well for a rogue i think the best weapons are sd sword and arena knife lvl 17. :good: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midgeedoo 0 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 use mixed gears? if you think your resilience is enough why you will put more resilience? better you put other stats like penetration instead of resi, arena lvl17 belt with resilence enchant is enough in my opinion,(if have bg set or lvl18 gears) and other focus defence or dodge, resi bad in mobs :blush: so for me 5%-10% resilence is enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luvis 1 Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 use mixed gears? if you think your resilience is enough why you will put more resilience? better you put other stats like penetration instead of resi, arena lvl17 belt with resilence enchant is enough in my opinion,(if have bg set or lvl18 gears) and other focus defence or dodge, resi bad in mobs :blush: so for me 5%-10% resilence is enough. Midgee....U never go pvp....5% - 10% doesnt work When U fight with a Ranger or Well BD or other class.....Thats why We need more resilense.......And also Penetration and resilense is not the same one is crystal one is rune..... PS : Put Ur armor on :give_rose: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jswaaz 87 Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 It depends on the stats for example Scout Gladius < Blade of Sudden Doom Mage/Warlock arena > SD You don't just pick arena weapon because it has resilience and you don't just pick sudden doom weapon cause it's the best in game. my point exactly, arena 2h axe is better then arena 2h mace for paladin. however doom 2h mace is better then doom 2h axe. just an example Midgee....U never go pvp....5% - 10% doesnt work When U fight with a Ranger or Well BD or other class.....Thats why We need more resilense....... And also Penetration and resilense is not the same one is crystal one is rune..... PS : Put Ur armor on :give_rose: all that annoying cuntbucket does is gank then spam forums with cute emoticons forcing any weak-minded male to believe its not ganking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midgeedoo 0 Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Midgee....U never go pvp....5% - 10% doesnt work When U fight with a Ranger or Well BD or other class.....Thats why We need more resilense....... And also Penetration and resilense is not the same one is crystal one is rune..... PS : Put Ur armor on :give_rose: noo noo LUVIS thats not i mean.. iknow things about crystal and about runes :blush: okaay. look at this you see? arena gears auto have resilence but not arena gears not resi instead its penetration. and one more thing i always go pvp :blush: but if your a good player you dont need to receive and accept all rangers or other class attack think about that. so thats why i dont recomend to much resilence hehe. AND ONE MORE THINGS mister swazz all that i remember is your your the first gank. you gank me you gank low lvl compair to you, you gank and gank. you always like that then when i fight back to you,then you tell me im ganking? everytime i saw you in cave i attack you cos thats what you doin then you call its gank? noo :facepalm: its revenge for me . i have 4 videos showing you come pvpcave pump blessings and kill innocent 1 by 1 hahah have a good day ser :wacko: :bomb: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jswaaz 87 Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 noo noo LUVIS thats not i mean.. iknow things about crystal and about runes :blush: okaay. look at this you see? arena gears auto have resilence but not arena gears not resi instead its penetration. and one more thing i always go pvp :blush: but if your a good player you dont need to receive and accept all rangers or other class attack think about that. so thats why i dont recomend to much resilence hehe. AND ONE MORE THINGS mister swazz all that i remember is your your the first gank. you gank me you gank low lvl compair to you, you gank and gank. you always like that then when i fight back to you,then you tell me im ganking? everytime i saw you in cave i attack you cos thats what you doin then you call its gank? noo :facepalm: its revenge for me . i have 4 videos showing you come pvpcave pump blessings and kill innocent 1 by 1 hahah have a good day ser :wacko: :bomb: if your on my list once, your on my list for life. just because you went to bed and woke up the next day doesnt reset what happened. you or anyone touches me once ill continue to duck you up. have a good day ganker :crazy: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabraunth 0 Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 I think the arena weapons are better. The damage isnt that big of a difference between the two but wih arena you have a slight better chance at preventing a crit on you. And that slight chance can make a big difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midgeedoo 0 Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 if your on my list once, your on my list for life. just because you went to bed and woke up the next day doesnt reset what happened. you or anyone touches me once ill continue to ♥♥♥♥ you up. have a good day ganker :crazy: no problem and i dont care , do what you want almost all player here in ws know your attitude. ;D only weak mind you can feared off. :good: yeah gabraunth . #1doom #2arena weap #3 abyss for me :blush: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lallouss 854 Posted May 8, 2013 Author Share Posted May 8, 2013 THE ANSWER :crazy: i tested alot weapons and gears to see that doom weapon is better than the 17arena :) actually its not only about the dmg its about the enchants ;) most dooms have critic+acc +bonus speciality (hammer/att speed, 2h axe/pene....) for who said dmg is not a big difference well actually it is ;) at high amp it adds alot of dmg (in pvps this will add 2-3atts more than wht a 17 can do) :crazy: ur weapon is made for attacking not for defending.. U can get 15%-19%resi without using 17arena weapon :) those extra 20-30-40dmg will hunt u :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabraunth 0 Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 THE ANSWER :crazy: i tested alot weapons and gears to see that doom weapon is better than the 17arena :) actually its not only about the dmg its about the enchants ;) most dooms have critic+acc +bonus speciality (hammer/att speed, 2h axe/pene....) for who said dmg is not a big difference well actually it is ;) at high amp it adds alot of dmg (in pvps this will add 2-3atts more than wht a 17 can do) :crazy: ur weapon is made for attacking not for defending.. U can get 15%-19%resi without using 17arena weapon :) those extra 20-30-40dmg will hunt u :lol: Yes weapons are made for attacking, but with arena weps you have a better chance at staying alive longer to throw in a couple of more attacks. In any case they may both produce the same results, just in different situations. I would prefer a 2hand arena over sd, only because when im being kited by a ranged class, the extra res on the 2hand can help with crits. But sd cant help in any way while being kited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lallouss 854 Posted May 8, 2013 Author Share Posted May 8, 2013 The attack between an arena wep and a doom is the same difference at high amp and low amp. If there is a 17 attack difference at +1 then there will be a 17 attack difference at +10. Yes weapons are made for attacking, but with arena weps you have a better chance at staying alive longer to throw in a couple of more attacks. In any case they may both produce the same results, just in different situations. I would prefer a 2hand arena over sd, only because when im being kited by a ranged class, the extra res on the 2hand can help with crits. But sd cant help in any way while being kited. well i can say this :crazy: if a paladin with 18 weapon +8 vs a paladin 17 arena weapon +8.. ik for sure doom will win ^-^ ive seen in arena even when they use arena shield they lose lolz cuz dooms got extra ench bonus+dmg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabraunth 0 Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 well i can say this :crazy: if a paladin with 18 weapon +8 vs a paladin 17 arena weapon +8.. ik for sure doom will win ^-^ ive seen in arena even when they use arena shield they lose lolz cuz dooms got extra ench bonus+dmg Maybe not because arena will get more crits than sd, and arena can reduce damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodylipa 1 Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Balance guys balance How much resi depends highly on your class and game style. You don't need 23% resi if you don't want to. For classes low on dodge/parry/block resi is the easiest defence stat to stack and it's effective. However if you play a burst dmg char or tank you should lower resi priority to push on attack or other def stats. For such chars I'd say around 14% resi is ok. I play with 14% resi myself, but then I have 21%dodge, 10%parry, 12%block that negates tons of dmg. Beat a barb the other week when I had 6 dodge/parry/block in a row. Similar builds can be adapted (but offensive or course) for nuke classes like rouge and mage. Hp also is something I balance in to my resi equation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lallouss 854 Posted May 8, 2013 Author Share Posted May 8, 2013 Balance guys balance How much resi depends highly on your class and game style. You don't need 23% resi if you don't want to. For classes low on dodge/parry/block resi is the easiest defence stat to stack and it's effective. However if you play a burst dmg char or tank you should lower resi priority to push on attack or other def stats. For such chars I'd say around 14% resi is ok. I play with 14% resi myself, but then I have 21%dodge, 10%parry, 12%block that negates tons of dmg. Beat a barb the other week when I had 6 dodge/parry/block in a row. Similar builds can be adapted (but offensive or course) for nuke classes like rouge and mage. Hp also is something I balance in to my resi equation. yup yup xD here lemme guess u use half set 18 gear and half set arena gear + arena belt with a 18doom weapon for ur dk? :aggressive: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jswaaz 87 Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 no problem and i dont care , do what you want almost all player here in ws know your attitude. ;D only weak mind you can feared off. :good: yeah gabraunth . #1doom #2arena weap #3 abyss for me :blush: >implying most of ws is worthy to talk to me let alone judge me >implying your not a fake piece of shit attention whore :crazy: >implying if i hit a lv15 first it makes me the ganker, if they ganked 5 mins ago Any more inbred remarks until you resort to emoticons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodylipa 1 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 yup yup xD here lemme guess u use half set 18 gear and half set arena gear + arena belt with a 18doom weapon for ur dk? :aggressive: I do use half divine set, but I also use 1 lv13 and 1 lv15 piece. Belt, 1h, shield is lv17 arena and accessories are lab of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FFFSerbia 0 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 For casters, obviously arena to survive if you get caught. I dont know melee so i cant help you. Whoever the ♥♥♥♥ says mage must use arena, kill yourself. As a mage, you only must think of damage. Kamikaze fast, kill it fast, or live long, die slow, do no damage. You have no chance. On mage, SD > Arena. Arena better then doom, doom suck for mage :good: mage with +9 arena stronger then mage with +9 doom :dirol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jswaaz 87 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Arena better then doom, doom suck for mage :good: mage with +9 arena stronger then mage with +9 doom :dirol: your free to have your own biased opinion but include facts. if i recall a "pro" mage said the complete opposite of what you said in an earlier topic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baskentli 57 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 only fags use resil O:-) O:-) if u wanna be strong amp all +10 :dirol: :dirol: :dirol: :dirol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriska 0 Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 I userd full arena warlock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maleshaman 15 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Winding scepter +9 Bg fury body+8 Bg fury hood+8 Silverd signets. Amulet of inward power. Violent storm bracers+7 Violent storm shoes +7 Lvl 17 Lab belt (forgot name) Lvl 17 Lab cape. Thats my main and old-school set-up. I`ll re-gear after the update :D so as you see, im not a fan of arena armour(nor do I have interest of going) Lvl 18 however... well that was obtained even before Swamps was released! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanah 0 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 i prefer arena set , high crit, high resil, n can hit enemy with couple of crit :lol: couple of crit will make u win even your deff is not really good, i love the stats :diablo: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lallouss 854 Posted June 21, 2013 Author Share Posted June 21, 2013 i prefer arena set , high crit, high resil, n can hit enemy with couple of crit :lol: couple of crit will make u win even your deff is not really good, i love the stats :diablo: doom has more critic and more ench than arena weapon how u say u love stats if u dont know them? ::) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legionn 88 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 I never saw a player using arena weapon while he/she has a doom weapon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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