stivemob 0 Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Hello. Bees vs earthquake is balance, both causing damage with different style, it's like periode heal of druid/shaman vs instant heal of necro/priest. So bees are stagger damage and earthquake is instant damage, you can't complain cuz there is already another skill with instant heal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yasirnoor21 0 Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Hello. Bees vs earthquake is balance, both causing damage with different style, it's like periode heal of druid/shaman vs instant heal of necro/priest. So bees are stagger damage and earthquake is instant damage, you can't complain cuz there is already another skill with instant heal. did.u even read the topic :facepalm:the bees sum.dmg = half of the quake's one the bees dmg arent critable whole quake dmg is crtiable the bees just slow.the enemy(redice crit of enemy was removed) quake completle stops enemy abilty to move bees target 1 enemy while quack size is 5X5 :crazy: in wars you can hit 20 enemy with 1 quack with such a size Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish 37 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Truth hurts? You rage and insult me instead talk, im done with this talking with you, goodluck in game ;) shaman with 5quack has more advantage then druid with 5bees lets say blind lvl5 gives enemy 10% dodge (and im sure it gives less) You crying about something you dont even know, blind adds 20-28% extra dodge and if you talking about being druid and go arena with lvl 5 bees for success.. Really open your eyes and watch overall not everything plain and simple :facepalm: it isnt devs proplem who cares if there was not any mc at all that isnt devs proplem so let me tell u in my eyes the "population" talk just downgraded u too a whining noob :facepalm: Isnt devs problem all mechanics about game? For you faction population doesnt matter? Ofc because we know what faction you playing and how are you being in this topic. just because alot of people like to have long elves ears doesnt mean devs should make mcs classes have ultra powerfull Most people used to like long ears because Elf classes owned easy MC ones pvp even if Elf was low lvl and MC top lvl with strongest gears in some cases, far before amplification updates. Elf 1st map was with better graphics and details till they changued later MC 1st map design, Elf 1st map quest was too easier and gave more gold, better boss locations at 2nd map.. at everything Elf was favoured for old players and new ones to want play.. At all servers there was a lot more Elfs players than MCs and a faction unbalance.. Saphire was 80% elfs 20% MCs lol.. If everyone plays only 1 faction means there cant be war in their war game but isnt devs business up to you right? And i didnt said because population MC & Forsaken are ultrapowerfull and Elfs shit like you saying, i said MC & Forsaken need some more area & control skills than elfs to get some chance to win wars. And if Elfs shit for you, why low amped druids are killing easy good amped shamans in pvp cave?? Why lot less amped rangers killing rogues easy 1 v 1?? Why medium amped BDs totally owning full amped barbs pvp?? Why not really high amped priest like Notawolf are killing pvp lvl 20 warlocks, shamans, rogues, barbs, DKs, necros PvP??? Go learn some from him about priest instead cry like hypocrite at forums, if your class is that bad for you, why the ♥♥♥♥ you still play priest than 1 of that "ultrapowerfull classes" ? Because you are a big hypocrite dear and priest is lot powerfull and you enjoy playing it, +10 priest could kill +10 shaman easy.. ♥♥♥♥ it, smart geared priest dont need +10 to own +10 shaman pvp. i made because players from lvl1-20 kill me with crossing without me hitting them a single hit is a lvl13 shaman with 120 dmg and 110 heal skilled enuagh to kill a lvl18 priest? yes he think he is because he kept crossing like shit and killed me and the worst is he thinks he is skilled :shok: Go balance yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsja 1 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 @Spanish druid dont take damage also and get 1x-2x stronger heals cause of passive skill (3% + astral & moon) Passive skill "Concentration: Increases characters's damage by 4%. Enchances Dark magic resistance by 5%". Where is the "heal"-upgrade in this skill? All shaman's keep talking about higher heal for druids but .... tell me, where is it? Addition; Even when druids have 4% extra, it is for 250 astral only 10 astral extra = 8 heal extra. Shamans have 4% extra HP. For 2500 HP it is 100 hp extra. A druid needs 12 heals for getting compensated. 12 heals takes 36 seconds. How many arena's take that amount of time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish 37 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 @SpanishPassive skill "Concentration: Increases characters's damage by 4%. Enchances Dark magic resistance by 5%". Where is the "heal"-upgrade in this skill? All shaman's keep talking about higher heal for druids but .... tell me, where is it? It increases moon damage 4% and astral as well or used to do while i played.. Description should be changued or its bug and shouldnt increase astral 4%.. At high lvls its like have extra ring moon& astral but for some symbian priest isnt powerfull enough :lol: Even when druids have 4% extra, it is for 250 astral only 10 astral extra = 8 heal extra. Shamans have 4% extra HP. For 2500 HP it is 100 hp extra. A druid needs 12 heals for getting compensated. 12 heals takes 36 seconds. How many arena's take that amount of time? Its not only 4% more astral is 4% more moon also that make it best passive skill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsja 1 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 I made a calculation and indeed my astral is improved 4% extra too. I got 10 extra ;D The text needs to be changed. For arena i think priests should focus on enery-drain. Even my druid with nice energy regen faced that problem against a good priests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yasirnoor21 0 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Truth hurts? You rage and insult me instead talk, im done with this talking with you, goodluck in game ;) You crying about something you dont even know, blind adds 20-28% extra dodge and if you talking about being druid and go arena with lvl 5 bees for success.. Really open your eyes and watch overall not everything plain and simple :facepalm: Isnt devs problem all mechanics about game? For you faction population doesnt matter? Ofc because we know what faction you playing and how are you being in this topic. Most people used to like long ears because Elf classes owned easy MC ones pvp even if Elf was low lvl and MC top lvl with strongest gears in some cases, far before amplification updates. Elf 1st map was with better graphics and details till they changued later MC 1st map design, Elf 1st map quest was too easier and gave more gold, better boss locations at 2nd map.. at everything Elf was favoured for old players and new ones to want play.. At all servers there was a lot more Elfs players than MCs and a faction unbalance.. Saphire was 80% elfs 20% MCs lol.. If everyone plays only 1 faction means there cant be war in their war game but isnt devs business up to you right? And i didnt said because population MC & Forsaken are ultrapowerfull and Elfs shit like you saying, i said MC & Forsaken need some more area & control skills than elfs to get some chance to win wars. And if Elfs shit for you, why low amped druids are killing easy good amped shamans in pvp cave?? Why lot less amped rangers killing rogues easy 1 v 1?? Why medium amped BDs totally owning full amped barbs pvp?? Why not really high amped priest like Notawolf are killing pvp lvl 20 warlocks, shamans, rogues, barbs, DKs, necros PvP??? Go learn some from him about priest instead cry like hypocrite at forums, if your class is that bad for you, why the ♥♥♥♥ you still play priest than 1 of that "ultrapowerfull classes" ? Because you are a big hypocrite dear and priest is lot powerfull and you enjoy playing it, +10 priest could kill +10 shaman easy.. ♥♥♥♥ it, smart geared priest d ont need +10 to own +10 shaman pvp. Go balance yourself im not a hypocrite and you are changing supject :facepalm:out talk here is druid and shaman but you keap changing about other classes i give u it priests Do own shamans though i dont remember lossing a single match against a shaman but you and like 2 others with just +7 lab stick ever since lvl18 even though we are talking druid and shamans cuz it wasnt that long devs added chosen and forsaken i give you that +4% moon and heal isnt even comareable to your HP bonus even after what tsja explained i give you that elves population used to own mcs alot though on Ru server i used to go mcs labd till their port killing every one alone cuz i only face like 1 high lvl melea which i destroy with kite before he touch me and i never seen lvl17+ shaman till like 2months before the crossroads update even though today things are changed so so mutch and you can see that in haydra,pvp cave,aa,bg,nadir things today are quite balanced in population and no mc can say elves more then mcs and let me ask you a question since you think population is devs proplem: if there wasnt any lvls ib first islands can any newbie come and ask devs to make first islands bosses easier? can anyone say make bg shadows easier cuz very few players? DID elves complain from the fact that till 2days after snow boundries update only like 2 elves had avenger key while mcs done it twice and always x10 mcs near ice-castle door blocking? :facepalm: i give you that it was my bad to not check things first and i do agrea that +25% dodge is enaugh bonus to balance the fact that no shaman dies at norlant,aa cuz always have a toy elve to push away and the +25% dodge is far better then being able to cast attacks :facepalm: what i DON'T give you is that mid amped druids can defeat full amped shamans but again I'm not talking about pvp cave it doesnt give anything it is just a place made by bored lvl20s to have fun but the Aoe effect makes shamans mid amped far better then high amped druids in arena,aa,wars and let me tell you something: it is NOT something side effect all lvl16 cc sets and lvl17 arena sets, till now alot of players treat arena sets as best sets available and i DIDN'T see a single lvl17 shaman till today not using arena stick cuz he own arena except for shamans who use lvl14 queests weapons and equips only cuz he clearly ultra noob :facepalm: while alot of druids i know dont have arena wep or arena sets cuz their KDR in arena isnt as shaman's one also who told u low amped rangers can kill mid amped rogues? 2 rogues in arena are not beatable and i seen alot of 2 mid amped rangers loss arena towards 2 mid amped rogues before they even inflict 1k dmg to the rogues :facepalm: again this talk ISNT about these classes it is about druid s and shamans also i didnt say that shamans confuce ball is the unbalance if u happened to read my posts my main proplem was bees and quack and dont even say that they are balanced . if not added my suggesion above to make aoe bees the least devs can do is make thunder Aoe with a 3X3 spot since you say mcs are less what will be a proplem if druid with 3X3 face shaman in 1 vs 1? also lag and slow connection,bugges posision isnt an excuse to make shamans quack this powerfull cuz after all it is not devs proplem that players don't have the minimum required internet spead to play :facepalm: im having a real talk with you spanish it is just your keap talking about population is way wronge now even EU mcs are mutch more then elves and that pissed me so mutch that you just keap excusing with the population, give me a real talk and tell me if you forget the damn population for a second wouldn't making bees Aoe as i stated above in my post 1 or 2 pages ago make think balanced for druids vs shamans :drinks: ? 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Melfice 20 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Spanish hv right,not is that simple like u all see. for me only lock and bd are much strong(wind shooting sword technique) ;D Shaman is not op ,Like Spanish write Blind skilu can use to your win coz most shaman hit not get u,and eartquake not alway work. About population is also the true.Now is like 1 vs 3 and u think MC win cos we are op,wrong. We just dont count on numbers,ypur brain is your best weapon. Mc block bridge go by cave,simple. Look on kottarava Sometimes i think elfs sleeps here... my record is 38 dies at hydra ;D (one day) Its just game,relax...i died many times... unbalanced is only one think... PEOPLE :clapping: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yasirnoor21 0 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 eartquake not always work. sorry alice but it always workwith 5X5 area of affect i dont think anyone can miss hit enemy unless he had 1KB/sec connectio :crazy: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tung4u 2 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 sorry alice but it always work with 5X5 area of affect i dont think anyone can miss hit enemy unless he had 1KB/sec connectio :crazy: so true +1 for u. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yasirnoor21 0 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 +1 to this xD and, for those who say mage / pala stun skill aoe, is only MELEE! u have to be like at less 2 steps from enemy to stun them...! warlocks / shamans can cast their stun skills from distance.. see the difference? so true +1 for u. does people enjoy to promise me.eith +1s without actually giving me one :crazy: :crazy' !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK 57 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 The game is not balanced because valentines day is close and I am single and loanly also there are no chilly cheese available in my area Developers please make the game balance, give warlocks boiled potatoes so they become fat and cant run and look ugly My suggestion is still the best. Boiled potatoes will balance it all :good: You know why pvprange made his bow +9? Coz he eats chilly cheese and cant run so decided to simply stand and electrode anyone with his lazer pew pew bow :lol: He was killed in caraven by two rogues between all the elfs standing there, then he comes back saying he was in kitchen eating :rofl: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juoppoja 2 Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 My suggestion is still the best. Boiled potatoes will balance it all :good: You know why pvprange made his bow +9? Coz he eats chilly cheese and cant run so decided to simply stand and electrode anyone with his lazer pew pew bow :lol: He was killed in caraven by two rogues between all the elfs standing there, then he comes back saying he was in kitchen eating :rofl: hhahahahahahahaa ;D this was so ducking funny story :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladygi 33 Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Range, pew pew my kidney stones! Dont forget to active bless! :crazy: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgtvader 0 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Rangers are a bit overpowered because of blessing. It can kill cloth casters in 1-3 hits if you are lucky enough. But still its a not balanced game. So dont worry. They will find ways. 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lallouss 851 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Rangers are a bit overpowered because of blessing. It can kill cloth casters in 1-3 hits if you are lucky enough. But still its a not balanced game. So dont worry. They will find ways. 8) stop it with op.. Nobody is op, all classes has weakness maybe rangers can kill cloth classes but they r weak and very weak vs dk and paladin and sometimes barbs (use shield and ranger will be helpless) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgtvader 0 Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 stop it with op.. Nobody is op, all classes has weakness maybe rangers can kill cloth classes but they r weak and very weak vs dk and paladin and sometimes barbs (use shield and ranger will be helpless) Damage is very high. A Critical based ranger is a powerhouse. If you hit with ps then crit 800 and blessing affects it can double the damage which is devastating for us cloth casters. I know what is the ranger's weakness. Close combat can kill a ranger. Especially with tanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadHunter 1 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 The game is fine and best. The rule of all wars, usually dark forces are always much more powerful, but it's the power of mind and intelligence who have great taste of victory. Ok tell me, any mc can go through caravan for kratt, dinalt and makasha? But Elf reach and sometime do the quest of GG, GS, lake, etc. Elf are always better, I guess coz they are best in defence yet all bossy not united, if all is to be united then it will be problem for mods and developers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akimbaslt 0 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 first, mc hard do quests and mc not many. elfs soo very many, cuz elfs quests very easy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arshiz 0 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 lol at right Answer I disagree, in the back this guy writes:- but im a weak noob player :rofl: so that all players choose other fully wrong options :wacko: nice trick dude... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadHunter 1 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Why do you make Mc race better then elf? Is it because you play mc? First... Warlocks... Aoe spell and a stun spell, two of these very hard to beat. Shamans... Quake and also a blind skill... and... Rogues... Omg actually disappear. Damn, Elf doesnt have one skill as useful or cool as all of those. Elf doesnt have one AOE spell... Warlocks also stops all attacking (Face Palm). I know many of you may be thinking im weak and noob, but just really take a look at elfs then mcs... Mcs clearly are better. Why Snorlax? Do you do this on purpose because you hate elfs? Everyday i so MANY more noobs making warlocks because its to OP OP OP OP. Give druids a AOE spell dang... They have root but... Shamans and Warlocks have two spell to hold you and push you back WTF? Also game feels dead, have you not noticed every one wants a real 1v1 option? Re-balance the game so its fair... PVP, set your little mind on small things and try to speak big. In the game, you ignore someone, sent pvt msg, ang get freaked for not replying. You just did it today :facepalm: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PvpRange 2 Posted April 21, 2013 Author Share Posted April 21, 2013 lol at right Answer I disagree, in the back this guy writes:- but im a weak noob player :rofl: so that all players choose other fully wrong options :wacko: nice trick dude... Haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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