Mateusz

Hello dear devs and mods, i have few ideas for upcoming rebalance. Last Wish: Reduces any incoming damage by H% and increases the character's healing gain by D% for 8 sec. once their health drops down to A%. While the skill is on cooldown, reduces incoming damage from monsters by M%. The effect can only trigger once per 90 sec. Warcry: Each applied Aggression reduces cooldown for Last Wish by H sec. for each target. The maximum number of player targets is Y, there is no limit on the number of monster targets. As we know there is a problem with last wish that many elfs complain about and I personally think it needs a rework for the good of barbs and enemies. First of all u can abuse last wish in wars, since warcry reduce cd of last wish (78 secs in defense branch) and it has no limit on the number of monster targets u can use life scroll on the elf flag and warcry will affect 6 player targets and unlimited numbers of summons, minions, npcs etc which means instant last wish, with good amount of cd and full resist set + resist scroll u can stay inside of elfs and spam warcry being immortal (bloodshed talent heal u from every minion and summon in range giving big heal from lifesteal). It is possible to get 100% resist with resist pot, resist castle scrolls, resist snow set and resist accesories so u cant be stunned and with double cd spring weapon + cd enchs/books u can spam warcry before current last wish ends so u get insta new last wish, you can be unstunnable and immortal hitting elf flag at war ( i practiced that personally). Another thing is 2h barbs have to rely on last wish in arenas/gvgs and pvp overall, being too paper without last wish and taking 0 dmg with last wish on is absurd. With orci scroll(30%) u can get last wish lasting for 10,4 sec, in that time u can use full dmg and full skills on any class not letting them to heal on u with life steal or to kill u during that time (3/4 last wish is enough to be immortal as long as it lasts bcs of deff and heavy mm buffs). Berserker Power: During the effect, any incoming damage dealt to the character increases by D% and the maximum amount of health decreases by H%. Permanent skill. Fury: increasing any incoming damage to the character by 5%. As i said barb during last wish is immortal, but due to berserker debuffs can get bursted by any dmg class within 2 seconds. So its 10,4 sec (with orci scroll) of being immortal and attacking enemies with full power that goes into dieing within 2 seconds or less to any high dmg class and thats another big problem in my opinion. Solution to the problem: Nerf last wish dmg reduction to: 1/4 20% 2/4 30% 3/4 40% 4/4 50% But as a recompense to last wish nerfs delete all debuffs from berserker without nerfing it buffs (or anything that recompense lack in tankiness from nerfing last wish). With those changes barb will be killable during wars, wont have immortal time in arena( u cant hurt barb during that time in any way), but at same time deleting all debuffs from berserker will help us stay alive longer while using 2h weapon (currently without last wish im getting bursted within 2 seconds by a rangers, bds, hunters or any other dmg class). Also playing 2h weapon and depening on 1 skill that can save u is wrong (stone is not enough bcs of berserker debuffs). Keep in mind barb is meele class so we cant stay in a range distance and do dmg like rangers or hunters (we are going into middle of fight and takin lots of dmg, only last wish save us with 2h nowadays). Second idea: Bloodletting Basic attacks and skills that deal instant damage have a 25% chance to inflict an additional Bleeding debuff on the enemy for 8 seconds. The effect deals physical damage equal to 20% of the character's physical strength every 2 seconds. The maximum number of effects from the talent on a single target is 4. Bloodletting is currently bleed talent that is dealing the lowest amount of dmg, on a single target only, with the lowest chance to apply. If u compare it to chief or blade dancer bleed talents, they deal few times more dmg, they work as aoe and have much higher chance to apply. Im aware of that barbarian class isnt developed as a dmg class, but talent is placed in a branch that was meant to be dmg branch, aswell as barb have possibility to use 2h weapons thats make him kind of a dmger. Since barbs is meant to be a mix of a dmg and tank (not a pure dmg) im not asking for dmg buff (even thos its very low and single target only), im asking to change the way we apply the bleeds so its easier and faster to put them. My ideas for solution: 1. Change chance of applying bleed from 25% to 35% 2. Give us more chance to apply bleed each time bleed is not applied. For example X% chance at first hit, if bleed is not applied then 2nd hit have X% +5% chance (Similiar to current chief bleed talent). Thats everything i have to say, thanks for listening me!

Im 100% sure if u put that barb in a same scenario in arena as i show in video he would die in max 1 minute cus cant use hp pots. @Higgingsis there a chance devs see my video of wd and consider it for upcoming rebalance?

Barb tankiness is very situational and comes from 1 skill mostly that gives just 8 secs, while wd can stay alive like this every arena supporting his allies with dmg redu skill. Wd with tanky build is op for arena cus of that dmg redu skill, barb tanky build is useless in arena. Also wd dealing more dmg in a tank setup.

What would i be afraid of? I just explained problem with last wish that u couldnt do in 100 comments and im expecting devs to rework it so cant abuse it anymore. Can u refer to video of wd i sent? Is it broken or balanced? Does wd need nerf?

Also the only problem about barb in wars is that u can abuse last wish now. In rebalance year ago devs reworked last wish so u can reduce cd of that skill with warcry. It has limit vs players but has no limit vs monsters, so in wars u can use warcry and it works with minions/summons which elfs spam alot in war. So bcs elfs dont use brain we can get insta cd of last wish in wars. Im pretty sure devs will change that in next rebalance bcs in fact thats kinda broken, but still can counter it if elfs use brain. Also if elfs wasnt bots they could skip last wish making barbs useless in wars, but for that u need to use brain. And thats how u explain a problem with some skill. Also u should add a solution to that. But its easier to say "bArB iS bUgGeD" and cry 100 comments that devs wont ever read cus its just 1 guy yelling XDDD. The videos u showed has nothing to do with real problem. So im pretty sure things u showed here wont be changed.

This is why im calm, devs wont listen to u if u just cry about everything. What about video of wd i sent? wd is balanced class u think? Or u just scared to say about wds bcs ur friends play it?

@Wrathwe shouldnt rly care much about them bro. Guy who actually complaining didnt even read barb skills and dont know how u can counter it. Hes also playing blade dancer class that is getting buffed every single update, new dmg skills, almost all skills reworked and buffed, talents that give bleed doing most dmg in the game, talent giving dmg buffs, talent giving heal from parry, 100% chance for parry every X hit. Guy is playing class u can handle being blind so he complain when cant kill someone by randomly clicking few skills. Hes sending a video of 1 bd and 21 templar trying to kill barb as a proof XDDD. Also bro check video i sent up where we trying to kill a wd with 3x maxed dmg chars. But ofc bd and wd are so balanced. Only barb isnt balanced bcs u cant kill it without using ur brain XDDD. And i have pretty much same video of pala being so tanky aswell. But bro "bArB iS bUggEd" XDD

In all ur videos barb is being attacked by 1-3 ppl only plus only one of them is true dmg, rest is either templar/healer, low amp or even some low lvl, barb in the video is maxed barb using fully tank build, max block and parry which is very useless overall except being tanky dummy bcs he cant kill anyone and if u had 2 or 3 good dmgrs he would die very easy. There are 0 bugs about barb, tankiness in the videos comes from build and is achievable by many other classes such as dk, wd, pala, orci druid or orci shaman. As i said u have wd on ur side so u should keep that in mind and as a proof im sending a video of not 1 dmg and 2 healers, but 3 dmgrs full +10, all of them have 15 rare books, trying to kill 1 wd for whole arena long. In ur video barb was using hp pots, in my video wd cant use any pots bcs its in arena. Can u check my video too? @Robin @Dr Strange @Shimarin @Higgings received_946789980654569.mp4

Can some dev explain to me why u give basically same talent to 2 classes, but 1 class (pala) have 0 requirements for that to work and it works as aoe for his allies while another class (barb) need to meet the requirements to make it work and it works on himself only? U basically giving a buffed version of barbs talent to paladin. If u rly goin to do that then buff % heal or lower cd time of barbs talent since it has requirements and works on barb only (not aoe)... In fact barbs talent wont work every 3 secs since need someone in range of 7 yards to put stun on enemy, which is basically impossible except of gvg to do that frequently every 3 secs, in fact it will happen every 5 secs, 6 secs or even more while pala has 100% granted heal for him and his allies every 3 secs.

Do u think we have enough active players for that? If they do this arena will be dead.

Nothing is bugged, mcs (barbs) have advantage in wars only bcs elfs dont know how barb skills works. All we do is using game mechanics that can be countered by elfs, its not our fault elfs dont know how to counter barbs. Elfs are overpopulated in every server, its not possible for mcs to win wars basing just on the player numbers. Also if u check war results in all servers, some wars win elfs and some wars win mcs, its not one-sided.

New diaries come with each arena season? Is there any chance for cross server arena in the future? Arenas at test server are always best fun bcs of so many different ppl doing arenas there and its most active. New ranked mode with cross server arena and that performance rating system would be best thing ever that can happen to arena.

Do u know that in many or most of the servers there are enough ppl dmd for only 1 team in arena, how that performance rating system will work when only 6 ppl from each side dmd for 5x5? It will be the same as now anyway right? Or what if at 2x2 dmd 4 weak ppl and 2 op players, they wont have a chance to meet so in the end that op players wont get into arena at all? Do u know that after 2 weeks when 2x imps end most arenas are semidead? How that performance rating system will work when there is enough ppl just for 1 arena? Also is there a chance in the future for cross server arena? That performance rating system would work so good but on cross server arena where have plenty of ppl who dmd.

fix the gvg

Delete all mc classes so u can win. I suggest u to start thinking instead of asking for nerfs everytime u lose.

Thats actually very good idea, would be exactly the same thing that beastmaster already has. Also i wonder why charmer still doesnt have any aoe/party buff?

Hello im Bigego from eu emerald. Here are some of my thoughts and ideas for skill changes based on years of playin as a pvp focused barb. To gather all of following info i tested many different skill and eq builds as well as done alot of arenas/raids/gvgs/open world pvps vs every possible class in the game. Last Wish: When health is reduced to H% from the maximum, the damage received by the character is reduced on D% for 8 sec. Cannot trigger more often than once per 90 sec. First and very simple change that every barb in the game is waiting for, reset cd of last wish after arena. We are not asking for reset after death bcs that would be propably too broken, but reset cd after arena wouldnt have any negative outcome, its impossible to abuse that, it would change the fact that last wish basically always works in 1 out of 2 arenas only. Imagine we have expert lvled to 4/4 and can use it in 50% of arenas only. Stone Skin: Every T sec, the character accumulates the "Stone skin" buff. The effect allows you to ignore D% of the damage from the next auto-attack or skill that deals instant damage. Blocked damage instantly accumulates one effect, but no more than once every 2 sec. Skill that is fine in general in my personal opinion as long as u use 1h, however it becomes totaly useless and gives 0 deff when we use 2h. Someone may say there is talent that gives stone buff if we parry, but noone use that talent with 2h since we need "fury" talent in that case. So it just doesnt work in any way for 2h. My suggestion is to add some perma % dmg reduction while using 2h or % dmg redu based on our hp (similiar to paladin skill) while using 2h. Berserker Power: Applies the "Berserk power" buff to the character for the duration of the skill. The effect increases the "Penetration" parameter by R%, as well as the "Attack speed" parameter by R% if equipped with a one-handed weapon, and the physical power of the character by R% - if equipped with a two-handed weapon. During the effect, any incoming damage dealt to the character increases by D% and the maximum amount of health decreases by H%. Permanent skill. Skill that is crucial for 2h build and 1h speed oriented builds aswell. However the debuffs we are getting from skill which are -15% hp and 10% more dmg taken makes 2h barb a paper without any deff since stone doesnt work for 2h and last wish doesnt reset every arena and lasts for 8 secs only then we are naked without anything to save us from getting bursted. My suggestion is to lower % of debuffs or delete both or 1 of them. Its worth to notice barb is propably the only class in the game thats getting debuffed while buffing. Scream of Fury: Decreases the "Penetration" parameter by P% for all enemies within 2 yards of the character and increases the character’s "Block” parameter by B% for T sec. The maximum number of player targets is Y and the number of monster targets is unlimited. Skill that in theory may look usefull but in reality there are 0 barbs using it. Skill doesnt rly buff our deff, is easy to resist + debuff isnt that op aswell, also duration time is low. In the end completely noone use that skill bcs there are no benefits from putting skill points into it. I dont have any specific idea in my mind right now but for sure that skill need to be completely reworked, for example some party buff may be added or 2h deff skill or aoe dmg, there are so many options that would work for barb. Bloodshed: The "Warcry" skill additionally applies the "Bleeding" debuff to all opponents for 9 sec. The effect deals periodic damage of 33% of the character's physical strength every 3 sec. Dmg should be increased while lvling up warcry skill or change it for instant dmg aoe skill with %dmg depending on skill lvl. I covered that in previous post. Combat Fury: Deals the "Combat frenzy" buff to the character for T sec. The effect increases the "Accuracy" parameter by A%, restores H% health from maximum instantly and J% health from maximum every 3 sec. for 12 sec. My suggestion is to give heal over time effect from the skill to whole party. I covered that in previous post aswell. Charge: The character instantly moves to the enemy from a distance of two or more yards, deals physical damage in the amount of P% of the physical strength of the character and deals the "Stun" effect for T sec. The effect does not allow to move, attack or use skills I suggest to add % chance for aoe stun or dmg to enemies around target. I mentioned that in previous post too. Warcry+ Increases the strength of the skill's buff effect by 2 \ 4 \ 6%. Very useless talent, its not neccesary in pve and completely useless in pvp, i suggest to increase effect of bloodshed talent aswell. Strong plates Increases the character's maximum health by 3% and reduces incoming damage to the character by 1,5% for each heavy armor equipped. As long as hp buff is good, dmg redu % is basically unnoticable. Since the whole "defense" branch is oriented to make us more tanky i would like to notice there are actually not many talents that gives us real tankiness comparing to other tank classes branches like dk or wd or pala. I suggest to increase dmg redu % from 1.5% per heavy pc equipped to 2.5%. Execution Increases additional damage from the “Defeat” skill against targets with the “Bleeding” effect by 5% per effect, up to a maximum of 20%. Guaranteed to inflict a critical hit with a skill if the target has 4 or more “Bleeding” effects, it is impossible to dodge, parry, or block the strike. Bloodletting Basic attacks and skills that deal instant damage have a 25% chance to inflict an additional Bleeding debuff on the enemy for 8 seconds. The effect deals physical damage equal to 20% of the character's physical strength every 2 seconds. The maximum number of effects from the talent on a single target is 4. I want to cover both talents at once bcs they are highly connected. As long as we wont get bleeds from bloodletting we cant get any benefit from execution talent. Its good move to give us some dmg oriented branch that would buff our dmg abit for 2h in pvp and pve. However the whole branch is too much based on luck. The bloodletting talent in most cases wont let us get 3 or 4 bleeds or it takes too much time to get them. Alot of times we put just 1 bleed on enemy untill we get stunned or our enemy manage to move away from us or will just die(especially in dgs when mobs dieing so fast), in that case 2 main key talents of dmg branch give us 5% more dmg on 1 skill and 1 weak dot in total and that happens alot in pvp and pve. My suggestion is to make both key talents less luck based. As an example can change dmg buff in execution talent for 7% from each bleed and make it works with 3 bleeds max instead of 4. Dmg output will be the same but it will be easier to get max bleeds needed for execution talent. Can do pretty same with bloodletting, increase % chance to inflict bleed and increase bleed dmg but make it 3 bleeds max from talent. In current state its almost impossible to use those talents in its full potential. I also want to bring last years rebalance developers commentary. Developer commentary: Recently, the Barbarian has added abilities to their combat arsenal that greatly increase their offensive potential. Since this direction is showing great results, we want to continue the hybrid development of a class that can both take damage from opponents and deal high damage. The main task at the moment is to separate these areas so that the class does not turn out to be too strong. As its said devs wanna make barb abit more of an offensive class instead of tank dummy. I very like that idea but lets look closer. In last rebalance we got some of the skills % dmg buffed but our dmg buff from combat fury was changed to accuracy buff, which made whole offensive changes less noticeable since we lost 1 kinda strong dmg buff. With the idea of making barb more offensive class we also lost some of tankiness. In the end we have a class that is way less tanky than other tanks like dk, warden or pala and do way less dmg with 2h (as a pure dmg without deff) than basically every dmg class. Tankiness and dealing dmg is already separated for barb since we need 1h to tank and 2h to deal dmg. I dont see a reason for not changing some of the skills (not making it broken) in a way i suggested in this post to slightly increase our capabilities. I think 2h barb has too many skills that works for 1h only in current state which gives us very low variety of playstyles. 2h definitely need more usefull skills that would increase our capabilities of playstyles (and maybe variety of 2h builds aswell). Also i wish to see barb move from being mainly solo class with solo abilities to more guild and group friendly class which was suggested with skill changes in this post aswell. I hope and tried to give my ideas in balanced way to not make any skill and whole class too broken (playing broken class is boring actually and i dont want that happen to barb). Also i wish some of my suggestions can be considered and maybe in some way and form (no need to be exactly the same) implemented into the game. Thanks for listening!

In my opinion barb is in rly bad state in terms of group fights. Have 0 really usefull skills in gvgs/raids etc. Here are my suggestions to change that issue: Warcry: Deals the "Aggression" debuff to all enemies around the character within a certain radius for T sec. and the "Mountain defense" debuff to the character for T sec. The "Aggression" effect causes monsters to attack the character, and only knocks down the target of the attack for players. The "Mountain defense" effect increases the physical and magical protection of the character by D%. The maximum number of player targets is Y, there is no limit on the number of monster targets. Bloodshed: The "Warcry" skill additionally applies the "Bleeding" debuff to all opponents for 9 sec. The effect deals periodic damage of 33% of the character's physical strength every 3 sec. In last rebalance year ago our talent warcry got added the maximum amount of targets depending on skill lvl. Before there was no limit of pvp targets which wasnt that bad since skill deal about 200 dmg per tick to pvp player. With last rebalance we need to waste 3 skill points (1lvl is 3 targets) just to get 3 more targets at 4lvl. Since dmg is very low, very slow and the amount of targets isnt great too it makes skill and talent completely useless in terms of group fights. My suggestion is to add more dmg from bleed if we lvl up skill and 1 instant tick when we use skill. Just as an example(numbers of % can be different than my example): 1lvl-33% 2lvl-40% 3lvl-50% 4lvl-60%. This is basically the only aoe dmg skill that barb has and its useless in current state. Combat Fury: Deals the "Combat frenzy" buff to the character for T sec. The effect increases the "Accuracy" parameter by A%, restores H% health from maximum instantly and J% health from maximum every 3 sec. for 12 sec. Since barb has 0 support skills and mc side lack in aoe healing overall here we can change skill mechanics so when barb use combat fury he get same effects as now but his party will get that buff which heals them % health from max hp every 3 secs for 12 sec. Thats something which wont make any big change but would make barb a little more usefull in pt. Scream of Fury: Decreases the "Penetration" parameter by P% for all enemies within 2 yards of the character and increases the character’s "Block” parameter by B% for T sec. The maximum number of player targets is Y and the number of monster targets is unlimited. This is the skill that noone use, even with new talent its still very useless bcs talent % is too low and takes too much time to use the skill. As much as i tested it does basically nothing also doesnt work for aoe stuns like zone or circle + talent is located in very bad branch that noone choose. I suggest it should be completely reworked for something that deal aoe dmg(if aoe bleed wont get buffed) or buff our allies. Charge: The character instantly moves to the enemy from a distance of two or more yards, deals physical damage in the amount of P% of the physical strength of the character and deals the "Stun" effect for T sec. The effect does not allow to move, attack or use skills. I suggest to add to this skill % chance to land aoe stun or aoe dmg in radius of 1 yard around target. It wouldnt be broken since there wont be 100% chance to land aoe stun/dmg + enemy still can resist that stun. There are just some ideas, u may not agree with some of them but the 1 thing is sure, barb need improvements in terms of aoe/group fighting like gvgs/raids/castles etc. The current "debuffs" that barb has are completely not up to date with nowadays reality of group fighting. All the changes i suggested are in good faith to change barbs solo playstyle oriented role to more group/guild friendly and usefull class.

Idk if u talkin about 2h only but what u said propably gonna work worse for 1h than actual stone. Stone is in good and balanced state with 1h, the only problem is with 2h where its completely useless. But u shouldnt nerf it for 1h only to make it better for 2h. Some ppl still using 1h.

Actually no need to reset after death cus it would be broken, but it should reset after arena, there is no badside of resetting it with arena, u cant even abuse it. If it doesnt reset, most of the times u can use last wish only once every 2 arenas, so u cant use 4/4 skill in 50% of arenas which is big waste of skill points in that case.

I pray it wont be gvg style in term of numbers, we already have so much big group fights like many gvgs, wars, raids etc. I hope it will be focused on small scale pvp like 1-5 ppl fight each other cus we already lack of that.

Is that only about enemy side players? Like mcs can kill and get "Information" from elf players only? Or mcs can fight mcs in that place too? What do u think about to make it fight vs all except ur pt? Like mcs can fight mcs, elfs can fight elfs, mcs vs elfs too, be able to fight all except ur pt. It will also stop ppl from blocking area with whole guild, fights would be way more interesting cus it wont be just about how many ppl u can bring, but how good is ur pt or how ur pt can counter another pt.

Then why u keep sayin chiefs are overpopular? It doesnt have anything to do with ur post following your logic. Its so not true. U should start counting chiefs during our fights. You keep sayin 50% are chiefs while its max 20% and half of them are phys chiefs. Also it has nothing to do with skills. Everytime im in pt i see many ppl killing elfs not just chiefs with 1 skill. We push our ppl to quit useless classes and make chiefs/locks while i see elfs bring more seekers than templars for raids. Not even sayin half of elfs at raids are rangers, noone of you care to make gvg/raid classes. You want to win us bringing pve classes 60 elfs vs 100 mcs by making post at forum. Its fair and logic for you? There was no locks in mc side untill we made them by ourselfs, i advise you to do same if u want to win ever again. You were owning everything for years and all mcs classes were balanced for you. Now when u started losing you come to forum with "unbalance".

"templar being bad and useless" meanwhile other servers IMG_5708.mp4 U can add to this tens of aoe healing skills from other classes.

Thats also not true at all. I did count our numbers of diff classes in fights. Chiefs, shams, locks and hunters are mostly same number in fights. Chiefs are maybe like 20% of all classes in mc side. Soon u gonna make post about nerfing lock bcs many of us quitted their chars and made locks? You losing by playing wrong classes and getting outnumbered by us and you want change the game mechanics thats really funny xDD