Demonhyde
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I have come across a few warlocks...but all sucked and didn't know how to truly use it. From what I've seen on their boards they're supposed to be pretty kick-ass, but I've yet to come across one that actually was.
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I know this already. I was just trying to get my point across that even though we druids CAN heal, we don't have enough heal to compensate for that kind of damage unless we root. Rooting is tricky though with rogues in stealth. Druids who know how to use root and heal with whatever other skill they have left are easy OP, but to complain that WE'RE the ones whining about AoE skill (even though we all SHOULD know roots is better) when balinor even made a topic on how devs are "bastards" for nerfing the stealth, that's absurd. I do admit, I have seen quite a few complain of wanting AoE, but these are mainly druids who do NOT know how to play correctly. Okay I understand resilience comes into the matter. However you are dodging my MAIN point....being that you should stop telling us to quit complaining when I see YOU complaining about you getting nerfed...rogues are the ONLY real enemies we druids have trouble rooting and killing because of their stealth.
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Not even kidding there is a guy (I can't remember the name) with his profile picture being a pic of him critting 4021...look up Odin, his profile is a pic critting 2643, that's enough to 1hit druids alone...
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Proof of YOUR whining. Yeah the cooldown is reduced, but guess what? The #1 thing druids complain MOST about is how a ROGUES crit can be up to 3-4k! Do you know how much it SUCKS being on the druid side of that? I'm not whining, I'm stating a FACT. Devs are only doing their jobs and making it even.
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The fact that you think you are a pro at this game because you were MC proves your immaturity. Any GOOD druid on this game KNOWS that entangle is a lot better than AoE because AoE you generally have to be within a 3 step radius of your opponent AND it isn't as effective as a druid. The only elf druids I see crying are the ones who haven't yet gotten to 20 OR complain because they haven't been able to reach far on their own because they don't know how to use skills properly. Quit bashing elf or go back to MC because if all you're going to do is act like you're a bad-ass because you were previously MC, we don't want you. Obviously, if you ONLY switched to Elf because you got nerf'd, you have no reason to complain about US whining. You're whining because YOU got nerf'd, so cut your crap kid and learn the real mechanics of this game.
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Question about Healer Druid Build
Demonhyde replied to dege19's topic in Discussions and Suggestions
Well it depends. ANY druid should have max heal, that's a given. The real question you should ask after that is what kind of druid do I want to be? PvP druid: I've not had a lot of experience with these but I have read a LOT of posts on these. They mainly have max heal, root, and lightning. Others have heal, barkskin, and lightning or bees depending on preference. If you want full support, Max heal, bark, and root. PvE druid: I'm currently working on this one. I've seen some max heal, bees/lightning, bark. Others max heal, bees, lightning (this is the one I prefer), but it all depends on what you're comfortable with and your preferences. -
Thanks for the info...I don't understand though because it seems a little more unbalanced. If cloth users are the ones that have lowest attack/defense ratings and need their healing (meaning need of mana) then shouldn't we get the smaller increase? It's still an increase, but even still...I see a lot of bd's or rangers barely ever get halfway down on their mana...and my only complaint as a druid is I'm constantly running low..
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Wait wait I have a question...I don't know if somebody asked or not but they say energy expense change dramatically with each skill level added...does this mean they will cost MORE to use or LESS?...cuz if more then that's crazy..I, as a druid, have a hard enough time keeping energy up w/out pots and using harmony crystals......Not trying to sound like I'm complaining, just curious.
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gracious no, but i did only get 3 variables so this equation is not NEAR as precise as it should be. Let me add your input into the regression and see the outcome, thank you for that :good: Btw did you do this on a lvl 1 mob? I tried doing the regression and I need you to give me what your bees damage is at 0 moon please :blush:
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Bloodylipa maybe you, as well as many other Europeans, are looking at it differently than we in the US are. Nobody wants their guns taken away, we just don't. However I HAVE heard from many (this also went through my mind) that there should be a MANDATORY drug screening every month or every OTHER month for those that do own guns and a mandatory psychological analysis exam done every 6 months. Most of the gun crime in America is founded from a psychological issue, drugs, or even money problems(such as the idiots gambling away their lives in Las Vegas). I will admit, when I have enough money I will be the FIRST to leave America because of the fact that I KNOW America is going to crash. Look at every single democracy ever previously made in the world, after a lasting period of time they've ALL fallen, and that's exactly what the US is going to do. I don't wanna be stuck in the middle of that when it happens. The healthcare system, well I don't agree with our President's decisions on that one, but I do know that when my mom gave birth to me 16 years ago and then my brother and sister, it didn't cost her a dime (the fact that we are a military family may also have factored in to that). I don't blame Europeans for having their biased judgments on America, because we have only given them reasons to have those judgments. As well as that, we have our judgments of Europeans. The stereotypical European looks like a snob to us because when roaming in London, just basing off of them, a LOT of them looked high class even though they were just middle class. The thing the majority of us Americans don't see is that a lot of your currencies are twice the amount of ours, technically making you "richer" in our eyes. I don't know what the average salary is for a working person in any of the European countries, I'm just stating this as an example. A person with 100 Euros basically has 200 U.S. dollars. I'm not trying to argue, that is not at all my intention. I was just trying to resolve some of the thoughts that might be running in your mind about Americans. Not all of us are the same, you know.
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I've also gotten drops from minibosses such as paladin and the wizard (accompanied with the dark satyr), but those are even more rare than pirate merc or red crown bosses.
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Oh guys there's an easy explanation for that, go to my complete healing dew guide. You're not capped mate, not at all. The level 5 skill level equation is an upside down parabola(meaning there IS a cap, but you haven't hit it), meaning even though you're astral can increase by a lot, it won't affect your heal as much. So say you went from 270 to 300 astral, your heal would only go from like 270 to 290 because the rate of incline is less. It's weird, I understand, but I think devs purposely did it like that so the druid wouldn't be able to heal like a mad man in pvp and the game would be more balanced.
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There shouldn't be a cap..I've never heard anything of that sort. In my opinion, though, you shouldn't need that much heal unless you're a pure support pvp.
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In order to calculate this formula, and because you have 2 variables (moon and skill level) you have to use a quadratic regression, which is found in any TI-84 calculator. This produces a parabola on the calculator, and you can enter what your moon is for x. So let's say I use my moon right now for my lower character, which is 88, we substitute for x, and also for the level 5 equation, because all of the equations for each level are different. 0.0003x2 + 0.3587x + 16.1096, so 0.0003(88)2 + 0.3587(88) + 16.1096 = 50. However, because I am higher level than now than when I posted these, the equation will be under what my real DoT is. My real = 52, so I was only 2 points off. And no, I'm not using any translator. If you are actually from the British UK or anywhere in Europe, your English will be different from mine because I'm in America and there are 2 distinct dialects of English that seperate America from Europe. Also, I look forward to seeing this all-out druid post. If you can successfully get all the information on bees, lightning, and heal then more power to you. I'm just trying to help the druid community, because nobody had yet to put up ANY real druid guides.
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It does, yes. However one of the factors that I can't rule in is the physical power. Yes, physical power DOES effect the amount you heal, but it varies upon level. These equations were made at level 10, so these are the very medium equations. Anyone lower level will have less heal than these equations, and anyone higher will have more. It's weird, I know.
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Welcome to Warspear. I prefer elf side, but good luck in your travels as mc/forsaken :good:
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Sorry man, I haven't gotten to level 5 healing yet. Only lvl 11 and about to get level 4 heal.
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Yes, whichever level you have, use that equation and substitute your astral magic for x. Or what you can do is find a graphing calculator and trace the parabola to also find your outcome.
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As you all know these aren't 100% accurate so here we go. Level 1 Healing Dew equation: 0.0007x2 + 0.3439x + 38.9644 Level 2 Healing Dew equation: 0.0002x2 + 0.4878x + 40.9044 Level 3 Healing Dew equation: 0.0006x2 + 0.5611x + 42.9772 Level 4 Healing Dew equation: -0.0001x2 + 0.716x + 45.9129 Level 5 Healing Dew equation: -0.0001x2 + 0.8101x + 49.087 I don't understand why level 4 and 5 equations are negative, but when I put in the numbers this is what the outcome was. It's weird...Anybody who has any healing amounts that completely disagree with any of these equations (such as a difference of 15 or so healing than the outcome of whichever equation)feel free to post or message me. Edit: Okay everyone so far anyone who's been watching this guide, you will see mine and Barge's discussion, and I found interesting news. In my opinion the optimal level is 3, because even if you get lvl 5 skill, there is only a 20 point difference between the healing when looking at both equations with the same amt. of moon. (If you don't understand, go to https://www.desmos.com/calculator and plug in equations 3 and 5 and look at the difference when moon is at 190 and 250. Only 20 points). Thanks barge for helping me see this :friends: :good: :yahoo:
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Okay everyone, everyone has seen my Bees Guide I imagine. This is a new topic that WOULD have been a lightning equation guide, However.... I have discovered that the amount of physical damage you have(for druids it's +1 every level) ALSO affects how much damage you do, so I will post 2 other forums for lightning and heal. For example, a level 2(meaning 2 physical damage) druid with level 1 lightning and 19 moon does 63 lightning damage...however a level 9(meaning 9 physical) druid with level 1 lightning and 19 moon does 76 damage. See the 13 point difference? The devs included what your physical damage is into the equation...making my job MUCH harder... So with this being said, I will still work with these equations, but know that due to this new discovery, it will be a few points off.. I'm thinking you just add 2 to the damage every point added to physical damage (like if i make the equation while I'm level 20, subtract 2*the difference of our levels...ex: lvl 14 player sees my equation for 5 lightning is 30x^2+5x+30, he would take 6*2, which is 12, and subtract it from the 30, so the equation for him would be 30x^2+5x+18), but I'll have to check upon new levels. This is also true for Healing Dew. My level 2 druid heals 33 every heal, my level 9 does 38(these are both with no astral)....so it's gunna be weird coming up with good equations. The physical power doesn't affect healing as much, though. Also same for Bees...but the mechanics of that are in my Bees Guide I'm sorry I can't be faster with these, I have a LOT of school to do, along with doing extracurricular activities and making all my plans go forward for college. Be patient and I'll have these equations up as soon as I can.
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Sange put that quite nicely. The fact that you are 15 years old and spend THAT MUCH in a game is stupid, oh btw I LOVE how you kept going on and on about WoW...and then when we catch you for good you try to slip by and say it was "Mercurial"...what a failure kid. Here's what you need; go give all that money you spend on these games and go do something USEFUL for everyone BUT yourself. You spoiled rich kids are a burden to society, because you don't know limits. I'm going to go into my inner kid and say you're like that girl London Tipton from The Suite Life of Zack and Cody (and everyone most likely knows this t.v. show)...you don't know how to control yourself and that amount of spending SHOULD put you in counseling for compulsive spending... Just sayin'.
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ok adding level 2 equation to main body
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I'm still lost at why you're using your daddy's money to pay for these pixelated games... 1. Why aren't you using money that YOU earn..instead of mooching off your dad.... 2. You know what kind of things you could do in the REAL world with that amount of luxury? I'm not saying don't spend any at all on the game...heck if I had the money (which I don't have seeing as I come from a military family with low income and I'm only 16) I'd spend some...but that's a LOT to spend on a single game bro. Quit complaining about your +9 stuff that won't go to +10...I'm barely able to get +4, and I know a lot of players have trouble with JUST THAT with the rate of successful amp'ing. Play like a NORMAL player for once, then MAYBE you'll have a glimpse of what difficulties there are OTHER THAN not being able to max amp. Oh and as for your BS comments about WoW (which I'm glad Sange caught you)...Sange is right. My parents and I played for a few years back when it was the very original all the way through the Lich King, and there was NEVER anything you could BUY to increase anything. WoW was a VERY good and balanced game.
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ahhh! lol ok i need 1 more..try with like, 100 moon. In order to find the Quadratic Regression of specific points I need 3+ points; the more points I have, the more precise the equation is. If you could just get me 1 more variable, that would be awesome :) Same, if you can get me 2 more variables (maybee 100 and 200 moon) I could find out the formula. Thanks to everyone who's contributing and trying to make this a better bees guide :good: :clapping:
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You need to test the bees on animals such as the mice or snakes with only 1 health, as they have no defense and give you the real damage produced. Higher level things (such as level 12? panthers) have defense and the attack numbers will vary.