Whiteholy 7 Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 (edited) I have Shaman lv 24, I think for use accessories halloween for my shaman and fill it with Vampirism Rune. I'll ask, Shaman is good for use Life Steal or not? Should I use halloween accessories with life steal and fill rune with Vampirism or use ordinary accessories with more HP? I know, shaman just have less damage skill, just lightning ball, fire totem, earth quake, lightning shield. Its different when compare it to mage or warlock, they have many skill damage and life steal is good for them. Edited January 5, 2017 by Whiteholy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jzargo 256 Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Lel priest only have 2 attack, Harad's tear and payback. Can I ask the same question , Priest is good for use Life Steal or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladiator 1142 Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 I think you wanna put Vampirism if you're more of a PvE Shaman, because the heal skill won't be on you most of the time. But I'd say keep HP if you are into PvP. Speaking general experience I don't play Shaman so I might be wrong :3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiteholy 7 Posted May 6, 2016 Author Share Posted May 6, 2016 (edited) I think you wanna put Vampirism if you're more of a PvE Shaman, because the heal skill won't be on you most of the time. But I'd say keep HP if you are into PvP. Speaking general experience I don't play Shaman so I might be wrong :3 I think PvP with healer can take a longer time. More time = more HP can I steal. Life Steal can add more heal to my Shaman. If my damage to enemy player 300 x 20% life steal, its can absorb 60 HP x how many attack. If combo lightning ball + fire totem + earth quake, how much HP can steal to my shaman? I think more than 500 ++ HP If I use 0% life steal with more HP, I can add 200 HP (HP rune in 3 accessories). All I use Skyfire Ring x2, Amulet with HP and steal, and Chiton of the Fiery Skies, the different is in the rune between HP or Vampirism. I think Steal can give more HP CMIIW Edited May 6, 2016 by Whiteholy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiteholy 7 Posted May 6, 2016 Author Share Posted May 6, 2016 Lel priest only have 2 attack, Harad's tear and payback. Can I ask the same question , Priest is good for use Life Steal or not? I think priest and necro are bad for use life steal. The dont have many damage skill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logrimy 70 Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Sure Life steal is good, rune of Hp ad too low hp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaleidoscope 142 Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Life Steal bonus in ws is always good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dozy 2 Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 I think PvP with healer can take a longer time. More time = more HP can I steal. Life Steal can add more heal to my Shaman. As a healer, I find that shamans with high HP are harder to kill. Life steal doesn't really affect the outcome of the battle; since healers don't do huge damage very quickly (apart from other shamans). Your faction passive adds a percentage of your HP, so this passive will benefit you more with higher HP. I think you would find it more useful to have enough HP to tank classes like the immortal bladedancer, especially with this bullshit ferocity update. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiteholy 7 Posted May 7, 2016 Author Share Posted May 7, 2016 As a healer, I find that shamans with high HP are harder to kill. Life steal doesn't really affect the outcome of the battle; since healers don't do huge damage very quickly (apart from other shamans). Your faction passive adds a percentage of your HP, so this passive will benefit you more with higher HP. I think you would find it more useful to have enough HP to tank classes like the immortal bladedancer, especially with this bullshit ferocity update. Oh, thats true.. Maybe shaman is better using HP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logrimy 70 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 As a healer, I find that shamans with high HP are harder to kill. Life steal doesn't really affect the outcome of the battle; since healers don't do huge damage very quickly (apart from other shamans). Your faction passive adds a percentage of your HP, so this passive will benefit you more with higher HP. I think you would find it more useful to have enough HP to tank classes like the immortal bladedancer, especially with this bullshit ferocity update. yes is you go vs druid who stun you as hell, life steal useless But vs other melee class if you have good dmg and put totem, quake and ball lifesteal is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiteholy 7 Posted May 9, 2016 Author Share Posted May 9, 2016 (edited) yes is you go vs druid who stun you as hell, life steal useless But vs other melee class if you have good dmg and put totem, quake and ball lifesteal is good. Which better: To build shaman become hitter or support? Hitter: ball, quake, lightning shield, fire totem (life steal is usefull) Support: heal, earth protection, heal totem (life steal is useless) Edited May 9, 2016 by Whiteholy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logrimy 70 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Which better: To build shaman become hitter or support? Hitter: ball, quake, lightning shield, fire totem (life steal is usefull) Support: heal, earth protection, heal totem (life steal is useless) No, simply I think heal rune increase your max hp for 200-250? For me useless. HITTER: I prefer life steal (if you enchant all accessories have like 13%) with one simply combo (quake,totem,ball,hit) you can regen like 150-200 hp. SUPPORT: if you go in dg for support....with life steal can heal yourself (if you not spam attak) and use heal skill to tanker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlrDmGx 8 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Which better: To build shaman become hitter or support? Hitter: ball, quake, lightning shield, fire totem (life steal is usefull) Support: heal, earth protection, heal totem (life steal is useless) life steal if u have more than 450+ matk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bdsc 41 Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Get life steal with hp rings and amulet and a life steal caoe if possible I have 17% life steal Anyone say life steal is useless its 1 of 2 cases 1st your a priest or necromancer both classes has low dmg skills 2nd your enemy kill you in 3 hit If you wanna know how life steal affect shaman Lets say you heal 300 Normal hit 36 life / skill 56 critical skill 100+ Sham can do dmg rapidly 2 low cd skill and totam Imagine any combos you like you will find life increase survival greatly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiteholy 7 Posted June 21, 2016 Author Share Posted June 21, 2016 Get life steal with hp rings and amulet and a life steal caoe if possible I have 17% life steal Anyone say life steal is useless its 1 of 2 cases 1st your a priest or necromancer both classes has low dmg skills 2nd your enemy kill you in 3 hit If you wanna know how life steal affect shaman Lets say you heal 300 Normal hit 36 life / skill 56 critical skill 100+ Sham can do dmg rapidly 2 low cd skill and totam Imagine any combos you like you will find life increase survival greatly But I set my shaman's skill: lightning ball 3/5, fire totem 3/4, and earth quake 1/5.. So damage from skill no much higher. I think when I use life steal to my shaman, thats cant add more HP.. Or I should to change my shaman's skill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgings 1821 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 (edited) In my opinion, we should increase what the character already has. I mean, shaman is a beautiful class with 4% more hp than the other classes. Also its a class that is used to gain time in any way, slowing down ur opponent and damaging him at the same time. Ergo you will have a lot of time to use for your healing skills. I'd put hp runes on rings, and gather as much hp stuff as possible. In dungeon, if you become the target, you can simply use earthquake and run away until your tank does his job. Also, having a good health can replace a possible lack of def ( is the way i've built my shaman lv 14, and i am #2 in 3x3 ). Summing up, I'd chose an hp set up instead pf a life steal one. Obviously, Shaman won't suffer if you allow him to steal some health from your opponent. But I'd see a life steal set up for a necro, because he needs hp to use almost half of his skills, so why wasting 1 healing on him when you can steal it from a mob? ( i'm talking in pve wise ). Idk about priests, but as far as i know, they are more support classes than attacking ones ( except in pvp, which are kinda a thug class to defeat ). As a player said, in fact, they have only x2 attack skills, so life steal might not be convenient xD but... Speaking general experience I don't play Priests so I might be wrong :3I hope i have been useful and clarified your doubt Edited June 21, 2016 by Higgings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bdsc 41 Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Look at it this way I wont sacrifice 10% life steal for 180 hp If you want high hp use gt and star wisdo get 500 hp as bonus if you get 2 set About pve thing lvl 14 doesn't have to fight mini bosses that hit 550+ dmg or to deal with 1k critical dmg Im 3.8 k hp no gt set or star wisdom. Arena only but i can kill t3 mini bosses solo and im full set arena SW and GT should get you like 4.5k hp if you have hp rings Necro and priests not recommend high life steal it will be a waste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgings 1821 Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 He asked for some advices, I have expressed my opinion . Ayvondil mini bosses are easy with any caster. Stay away as much as possible from them and here is the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiteholy 7 Posted September 4, 2016 Author Share Posted September 4, 2016 (edited) So thats accessories is good? Medallion of Fear with Vampirism Rune = 5,4% Skyfire Ring x2 with Vampirism Rune = 6,8% Chiton of the Fieryskies with Vampirism Rune = 3,4% So I have 15,6% Life Steal for Shaman.. Thats enough? If I use full life steal accessories, instead cloak and ring.. I get 20,7% life steal but thats bad because life steal ring and cloak decrease HP and magic damage. If I use full HP on my accessories, I get 180 HP but just 5,6% life steal from my amulet and rune cloak So I think, maybe combination between life steal and non-life steal accessories is better.. and fill them with Vampirism Rune How do you think with my accessories? Edited September 4, 2016 by Whiteholy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logrimy 70 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 So thats accessories is good? Medallion of Fear with Vampirism Rune = 5,4% Skyfire Ring x2 with Vampirism Rune = 6,8% Chiton of the Fieryskies with Vampirism Rune = 3,4% So I have 15,6% Life Steal for Shaman.. Thats enough? If I use full life steal accessories, instead cloak and ring.. I get 20,7% life steal but thats bad because life steal ring and cloak decrease HP and magic damage. If I use full HP on my accessories, I get 180 HP but just 5,6% life steal from my amulet and rune cloak So I think, maybe combination between life steal and non-life steal accessories is better.. and fill them with Vampirism Rune How do you think with my accessories? For me enchant hp is useless very low hp added, your accessories are good, just enchat that with LS, 15.6% is enought. i have 14.8 and is enought for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiteholy 7 Posted September 5, 2016 Author Share Posted September 5, 2016 (edited) For me enchant hp is useless very low hp added, your accessories are good, just enchat that with LS, 15.6% is enought. i have 14.8 and is enought for me Whats skill do you build for your shaman? Its my Shaman skill lv 24: Lightning Ball 3/5 Heal 5/5 Earth Protection 1/5 Blind 5/5 Earthquake 1/5 Fire Totem 3/4 Heal Totel 3/4 Anchestor Hand 1/4 Thats skill good for arena and PvP? Or what I should change? Edited September 5, 2016 by Whiteholy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logrimy 70 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 Whats skill do you build for your shaman? Its my Shaman skill lv 24: Lightning Ball 3/5 Heal 5/5 Earth Protection 1/5 Blind 5/5 Earthquake 1/5 Fire Totem 3/4 Heal Totel 3/4 Anchestor Hand 1/4 Thats skill good for arena and PvP? Or what I should change? Well, idk what are your stat (dmg and def), But For me is better go: Lightning Ball 1/5 Heal 5/5 Earth Protection 3/5 (if you decrease blind go 4/5) Blind 5/5 ---or---4/5 (is enought) Earthquake 1/5 Fire Totem 3/4 Heal Totel 3/4 Anchestor Hand 1/4 (or shield) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimkaa 55 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 I would use 2 points on earthquake instead of lightning. That way you will get a little longer stun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiteholy 7 Posted September 6, 2016 Author Share Posted September 6, 2016 I would use 2 points on earthquake instead of lightning. That way you will get a little longer stun No, thats the worst skill than ever.. Always miss, hard to targeting the enemy because the area is too small Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieinpeace 48 Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 No, thats the worst skill than ever.. Always miss, hard to targeting the enemy because the area is too small I think it is already big enough. I keep telling those guys not to hit any other target with earthquake if they want their totem to hit the correct target... And yeah it often does not even hit the target because of screenbugs, but it should work again if you use "Lightning blast"...but after a few seconds it fails again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiteholy 7 Posted September 6, 2016 Author Share Posted September 6, 2016 I think it is already big enough. I keep telling those guys not to hit any other target with earthquake if they want their totem to hit the correct target... And yeah it often does not even hit the target because of screenbugs, but it should work again if you use "Lightning blast"...but after a few seconds it fails again I agree.. If GM won't make quake become little wider, so they must fix the screen bug or remove the skill and change it with other useful skill. #LoL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCocktail 183 Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Abuse lifesteal. 20% lifesteal is way more sick than 200-300 bonus hp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiteholy 7 Posted October 5, 2016 Author Share Posted October 5, 2016 Abuse lifesteal. 20% lifesteal is way more sick than 200-300 bonus hp What do u mean? Life steal is better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCocktail 183 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 What do u mean? Life steal is better? No i just pretend its better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimkaa 55 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Life steal is better than hp runes. You can steal more HP than you would get from runes in every pvp unless you get killed during the first stun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akasha 2058 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Lifesteal is better than Hp, but you should mix them. the best set pvp is amulet and rings with Hp bonus and lifesteal runes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggeredAF 138 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Important attributes: hp, energy regen, accuracy and critical chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggeredAF 138 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Life steal is good for rogues/bd/ranger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akasha 2058 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 (edited) Important attributes: hp, energy regen, accuracy and critical chance depends on how much life you regain when use lifesteal / damage and then you need consider the purpose of your build as well. I won't suggest lifesteal for beginners. this is a good attribute for players who use bonus hp or aura.. or have a high dmg. Edited November 26, 2016 by Aкasha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggeredAF 138 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Life steal is good if you have high mdmg, and anyway, it may be better than the hp rune Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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