warspearbrasil 0 Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 firstborn as we all know this new rogue ability "Stealth" which makes him invisible and can attack your enemy off guard without giving any chance to defend can kill a druid he can not do anything. enter any area of our faction without being perceived as facilitating in quests (avanger stelar) may have easy access to a boss without taking damage (guards) (underground horror). this new skill "Stealth" is a rogue Trapasso, I can not believe that a skill so approved. I know that no first-born will accept this skill in the game so I created this topic to vote on the exclusion applied to rogue this ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulla 127 Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 then they must remove rogue class, learn what rogue is every mmo rogue has that skill.... i could make a topic remove scatter shot and double dmg skill, and many mc say yes cause it kill them easy before update, now most would agree in 1 v 1 it is balanced, secondly rogue is a "mage killer" but against bd and ranger we lose, sorry this class isnt crap anymore, but before update everybody could kill it and was most boring class, now we have a fun skill like elfs been having every update, and you noobs cry everywhere. adywijaya 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainbowZ 1 Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 then they must remove rogue class, learn what rogue is every mmo rogue has that skill.... i could make a topic remove scatter shot and double dmg skill, and many mc say yes cause it kill them easy before update, now most would agree in 1 v 1 it is balanced, secondly rogue is a "mage killer" but against bd and ranger we lose, sorry this class isnt crap anymore, but before update everybody could kill it and was most boring class, now we have a fun skill like elfs been having every update, and you noobs cry everywhere. Agree with you :clapping: But to remember that usually even rangers have that skill. As well dont remove invisib.. is balancing population between factions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warspearbrasil 0 Posted November 6, 2011 Author Share Posted November 6, 2011 then they must remove rogue class, learn what rogue is every mmo rogue has that skill.... i could make a topic remove scatter shot and double dmg skill, and many mc say yes cause it kill them easy before update, now most would agree in 1 v 1 it is balanced, secondly rogue is a "mage killer" but against bd and ranger we lose, sorry this class isnt crap anymore, but before update everybody could kill it and was most boring class, now we have a fun skill like elfs been having every update, and you noobs cry everywhere. but none of our abilities makes him off guard in the attack without giving any chance of defense or easier quests that difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurfer 0 Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 I officialy announce this topic as the "Stealth whining" thread! Please whine here, while you keep other topics stealth whining free. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcin 7 Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 this is from wiki: Thieves usually have a stealth ability, allowing them to disappear from sight, often this is combined with attacking an unaware opponent to inflict high damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulla 127 Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 but none of our abilities makes him off guard in the attack without giving any chance of defense or easier quests that difficult. wathc wow videos of rogue , we are meant to catch u off guard as our class is weak in combat, low hp, lower dmg than bd and ranger, low def.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson 0 Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Why some elfs players are such a cry babies :facepalm: when ranger was overpowerd almost no one from mountainers complained about it,accept it or cry in all forum topics :tease: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainbowZ 1 Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Why some elfs players are such a cry babies :facepalm: when ranger was overpowerd almost no one from mountainers complained about it,accept it or cry in all forum topics :tease: Are you sure? :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luksxxt 0 Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 nothing wrong with invisible, play ragnarok, u will see its normal for rogue as they are "assassins" in future and assassins walk in front of u whitout u notice them, usually they will kill u 1sec after u see them, so invisible here isnt any compared with invisible outside... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warspearbrasil 0 Posted November 6, 2011 Author Share Posted November 6, 2011 nothing wrong with invisible, play ragnarok, u will see its normal for rogue as they are "assassins" in future and assassins walk in front of u whitout u notice them, usually they will kill u 1sec after u see them, so invisible here isnt any compared with invisible outside... warspear not is ragnarok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odin 1 Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Why some elfs players are such a cry babies :facepalm: when ranger was overpowerd almost no one from mountainers complained about it,accept it or cry in all forum topics :tease: Lol I did. :lol: however I feel justified bc I specifically said when all classes get pvp skills then rangers are balanced. That day has come. Now I'm not going to give away secrets to the enemy, but there are built in counters to stealth. Stealth simply allows first strike to a melee class. Every Target they're trying to kill has at least one kiting skill sometimes two. Learn to use them effectively. If you don't know what kiting is you probably shouldn't play a ranged class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koskiller 0 Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Why some elfs players are such a cry babies :facepalm: when ranger was overpowerd almost no one from mountainers complained about it,accept it or cry in all forum topics :tease: for the firet time since update there is a reason to laugh....thnx dude...lolbut yest rouges can go sanctury n bg n avengeer quite easily....i hope rangers too get something like it...cos ranger=rouge in many respect...in warcraft i think elf archers could go inviz if it was night time....nvm i wnt good ranger skill cos last skill is garbo.. @sulla ...rouges do much more dmg than ranger....2tested gladius against tested longbow...glad do much more dmg...if u want i can show u too...ranger only have ranger blessing skill ehich turns tide in favor if us cos we do 170x2 dmg sometimes but u guys do 250...about that...not sure of fugiurs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koskiller 0 Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 >:D I officialy announce this topic as the "Stealth whining" thread! Please whine here, while you keep other topics stealth whining free. Thank you! strange that a moderator says this...comeon u got to he neutrsl...accept or not rouges r rats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurfer 0 Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Why this should be any strange? I only want to have all the whinings in one spot :) I try to be neutral as much as I can, but no matter what you do, you can`t make everyone happy.. PS: You guys finally realized what "rogue" means (and what these guys were suppossed to be from very begining) and now you are angry, but when u were able to easily kill them, nobody said a word :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulla 127 Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 @sulla ...rouges do much more dmg than ranger....2tested gladius against tested longbow...glad do much more dmg...if u want i can show u too...ranger only have ranger blessing skill ehich turns tide in favor if us cos we do 170x2 dmg sometimes but u guys do 250...about that...not sure of fugiurs then maybe need buy some crystals, cause on emerald, they hit 210-190 depending bow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay 2 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 I agree that rogue class type have stealth ability but... ...in most MMOG rogue type deal lower damage than other classes and rely on their high dodge and critical ability. In warspear rogue have high damage, infinite invisibility, high dodge, high crit... Conclusion is, let's forget our main char and pick rogue from the scratch which I did 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcmaster 0 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Why this should be any strange? I only want to have all the whinings in one spot :) I try to be neutral as much as I can, but no matter what you do, you can`t make everyone happy.. PS: You guys finally realized what "rogue" means (and what these guys were suppossed to be from very begining) and now you are angry, but when u were able to easily kill them, nobody said a word :) 100% agreed, Now atleast they know there's a class called rogues. :spiteful: There people got nothing but that stupid desire to stay overpowered forever.Cry babies cry,'cause it's not gonna happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zetta 1 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Maybe they could limit the usage a bit by something like continuous usage of mana while ur invisible! So that its used only when necessary! Idk just suggesting cz im jealous :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cevilone 1 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Im ranger, But i dont agree stealth remove. This is not the last skill add anyway. Sry bad eng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WARLUNATIC 2 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 For months the FB would kill us with ease, those months we held on tooour toungs and carried on battling. FB for a few days of update v2.0.0 and cant handle the new way to play is pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcmaster 0 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Well,befor rogues get stealth noone even talked about rogues, Now everyone jealous bout them because they got their uniqueness among other classes which they didn't had for a long long time. If you like rogues then be a rogue but don't try to change the way of rogues which they meant to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentine 0 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 My level 15 rogue used to be laughed at, now you guys winge about its only effective combat skill besides Merciless Strike, fb are such noob players. I know, I went up to level 14 with ranger in two days but with rogue it took me almost two weeks. Previously fb had all the advantages in pvp combat, with range attacks and disablers, now that something can counter that, there is a problem? lol I love it, :yahoo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarefootProser 0 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Rogues were always mage killers. It was hard for druids to kill them. Because low accuracy of cc staff and high dodge attribute on Rogues. Now the new skill has given Rogues an even more distinct advantage. It's hard to kill them because they are so sneaky. But isn't that what they are supposed to be? While i feel it's unjustified to have infinite cloak. They must limit it. Also give bosses and guards true sight. I can very Well Imagine a band of rogues destroying enemy parties with some coordination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuzmitch 29 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 PvP became more fun, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koskiller 0 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 I agree that rogue class type have stealth ability but... ...in most MMOG rogue type deal lower damage than other classes and rely on their high dodge and critical ability. In warspear rogue have high damage, infinite invisibility, high dodge, high crit... Conclusion is, let's forget our main char and pick rogue from the scratch which I did 8) u said what i did lol....i only play roue now...much more easy..yes rouges should get to use daggers only not sowrds ..they hit morr... @sula ..i said 170because u guys wear armors that reduce my 230hit t 190, ,but u have ,250so u go till230 or,210 rouges should have high acc but small hit n crit . PvP became more fun, isn't it? I wish u had an mc so i liked ut everytime lol...really frustrating man lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolstallone 0 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 PvP became more fun, isn't it? Your right kuzmitch pvp more fun and I think with such skill it's more fun and thank God there is less war in MC area now other wise big huge groups invaded MC territory maybe now Elfs will know how to play a tough game >:D ;D ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WARLUNATIC 2 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 PvP became more fun, isn't it? lol hell yes it did, fb took a thrashing today. The funniest reaction is in "screenshots of the game" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcmaster 0 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 PvP became more fun, isn't it? Yep,it is but only outside of arena :unknw: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuzmitch 29 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 It seems like we found problem with arena and making a fix for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainbowZ 1 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 It seems like we found problem with arena and making a fix for it. Thanks for your work. Please read our feedbacks. Relic quest is bugged and we do not like arena tickets :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eregion 1 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 I want arena :'( pls fix it as soon as possible :sorry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulla 127 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 I agree that rogue class type have stealth ability but... ...in most MMOG rogue type deal lower damage than other classes and rely on their high dodge and critical ability. In warspear rogue have high damage, infinite invisibility, high dodge, high crit... Lower damage but hit much faster, go see wow rogue video's they deal huge damage combos, in short flurrys, in this game atk speed is kinda the same for every class as there is no waiting after use skill, 1.7-2.0 no big difference imo. u said what i did lol.... i only play roue now...much more easy. yea, Just like you people only played ranger when it was the easiest, maybe fb should always get the best skills and mc crap you people be happy, here's a tip = wait for next update when more skills are added again, like we wait since 0.7 for rogue to be good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zetta 1 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 More elf = more crying = they get better skill next update! :facepalm: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcin 7 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Lower damage but hit much faster, go see wow rogue video's they deal huge damage combos, in short flurrys, in this game atk speed is kinda the same for every class as there is no waiting after use skill, 1.7-2.0 no big difference imo. yea, Just like you people only played ranger when it was the easiest, maybe fb should always get the best skills and mc crap you people be happy, here's a tip = wait for next update when more skills are added again, like we wait since 0.7 for rogue to be good! i got an idea don't reply to any koskiller's post he's just a kid gonna cry about everything without checking anything as his pathetic ranger didn't get best skill this update which is such an obvious discrimination.what is really funny most of crybabies here are rangers who got best class there in firstborn and thought they are going to be overpowered forever, well, sorry but you'll have to use your brain from now on in fights (if you have it :crazy: ) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcmaster 0 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 thought they are going to be overpowered forever, well, sorry but you'll have to use your brain from now on in fights (if you have it :crazy: ) . :lol: :lol: I doubt that there crybabies have brain :rofl: :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainbowZ 1 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 :lol: :lol: I doubt that there crybabies have brain :rofl: :rofl: Of course they havent :lol: There will always be some crying guys :mega_shok: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurinda 0 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 reasonable thing that had been done was while giving rogues (which is ok imo) the ability "stealth" traps should be invis too.. now rogues go rond a trap lol :lol: however the abuse of stealth is max. now.. Rogues come with stealth and attack while hunting!!!! Right now we are dealing with sulla and marcin for this :facepalm: never expected such newbie actions from them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulla 127 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 yet did you not see and atk marcin while he was in stealth next to u? you have a ranger so set up traps we cnt get past :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcin 7 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 reasonable thing that had been done was while giving rogues (which is ok imo) the ability "stealth" traps should be invis too.. now rogues go rond a trap lol :lol: however the abuse of stealth is max. now.. Rogues come with stealth and attack while hunting!!!! Right now we are dealing with sulla and marcin for this :facepalm: never expected such newbie actions from them... traps are invisible for us itself we just watch rangers closely so we know if they put trap or not. about newbie actions whos the one who comes with a horde to our land and kill innocent players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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